Randy Rhoads Signature Model - Link

[kitchen]

Most common 1974 Black, then regular burst, white, rarest I think were tobacco burst and wine. It was the first year for wine as well.
Steve

 

[Core]

Have a friend who had a white 74 non anniversary that he bought back in 82 when he was 16.

Gibson also makes now an aged 74 reissue that would be much cheaper than the Rhoads version. Seen them go for around $4k I think. Looks dead on except they have a black painted headstock back.

RR goes for $5K new and $6500 aged? Are they sold out now? MF says discontinued. That was fast!

 

[blues_n_cues]

Really? What source did you find that out from?

As far as i was aware the only White customs made in '74 were 20th Anniversarys, but as stated some didnt have the Anniversary Logo, neither did the '75 models..

If anyone has any info on exactly what Gibson found out about Randys guitar when they recreated it that would be great, the last time i checked it was all still up for debate and had been for years.

source my ass..
it's well known that randy had a '74 from a pawnshop as a gift but it was not a 20th....
if you know anything those 20th annivs started around june of '75 & were produced untli mid 75....
so there ya go...
there was the '74 les paul custom then there was the '74 20th anniv. Les Paul custom.

on e-bay theres about $2500-$4000 difference in the guitar.

i can't do randy exactly but i have an epi copy cause i love the color...
if i had the $10,000 choice... i'd take the '74 nitro natural aged LP over the randy guitar- screw the resale value- i love the color.

same w/ the cascade modded white 20th anniv marshall 1959- i love the MP & MOD- NOT THE ADDITIONAL 5 GRAND PRICE TAG CAUSE IT SAYS RANDY.

i have postage due signs from & met Ms. Delores, i met Randy twice,,, i got the memories- i don't need the $$$$

 

[roodyrocker]

source my ass..
it's well known that randy had a '74 from a pawnshop as a gift but it was not a 20th....
if you know anything those 20th annivs started around june of '75 & were produced untli mid 75....
so there ya go...
there was the '74 les paul custom then there was the '74 20th anniv. Les Paul custom.

on e-bay theres about $2500-$4000 difference in the guitar.

i can't do randy exactly but i have an epi copy cause i love the color...
if i had the $10,000 choice... i'd take the '74 nitro natural aged LP over the randy guitar- screw the resale value- i love the color.

same w/ the cascade modded white 20th anniv marshall 1959- i love the MP & MOD- NOT THE ADDITIONAL 5 GRAND PRICE TAG CAUSE IT SAYS RANDY.

i have postage due signs from & met Ms. Delores, i met Randy twice,,, i got the memories- i don't need the $$$$

Why is everyone getting carried away with the price of the Rhoads sig stuff? First the Les Paul and now the Marshall 1959RR at an additional 5 grand? Those amps did not sell for $5K new. They may have listed for higher prices but the street price new was $2800 give or take a couple dollars. And btw, its the best sounding amp Marshall has put out in a long time! I've been gigging a Rhoads Marshall half stack for the past year. I use either a Faustine Phantom or Alex's Attenuator to keep from blowing everyone out of the room

 

[roodyrocker]

Have a friend who had a white 74 non anniversary that he bought back in 82 when he was 16.

Gibson also makes now an aged 74 reissue that would be much cheaper than the Rhoads version. Seen them go for around $4k I think. Looks dead on except they have a black painted headstock back.

RR goes for $5K new and $6500 aged? Are they sold out now? MF says discontinued. That was fast!

Gibson makes a 68 Les Paul Custom with that aged white color. Perhaps thats the reissue you're thinking of? The 68 reissues are nice guitars!
I don't know if MF is sold out of the 74 RR Les Paul Custom or not but you could try Guitar Center and Sam Ash, both of them had them in their catalogs. In fact Sam Ash's November catalog has Randy on the front cover with them advertising that guitar.

 

[Chris Tramp]

source my ass..
it's well known that randy had a '74 from a pawnshop as a gift but it was not a 20th....
if you know anything those 20th annivs started around june of '75 & were produced untli mid 75....
so there ya go...
there was the '74 les paul custom then there was the '74 20th anniv. Les Paul custom.

on e-bay theres about $2500-$4000 difference in the guitar.

i can't do randy exactly but i have an epi copy cause i love the color...
if i had the $10,000 choice... i'd take the '74 nitro natural aged LP over the randy guitar- screw the resale value- i love the color.

same w/ the cascade modded white 20th anniv marshall 1959- i love the MP & MOD- NOT THE ADDITIONAL 5 GRAND PRICE TAG CAUSE IT SAYS RANDY.

i have postage due signs from & met Ms. Delores, i met Randy twice,,, i got the memories- i don't need the $$$$

So youre saying that in '74 there were non-20th Anniversary whites made? Thats news to me.

They started making them in '74 not '75.. unless you meant to type Mid '74 then my bad.

Everything ive ever read about Randys guitar has never stated that it was definitely a '74, it was up for debate for as long as i know, until this sig was made and Gibson confirmed it was a '74. It would be interesting to find out the pot codes and prove conclusively when it was made and if indeed its a 20th Anniversary just without the Decal, especially when collecting original 20th Anniversaries.

Cool that you met Delores and Randy, how did that come about?

 

[dwagar]

the only difference between a '74 Custom without the inlay, and a '74 Custom with the inlay, is the inlay. As for a difference in price between the two, I doubt it. I haven't seen it. There's one buyer that wants the inlay, and one buyer that doesn't (probably due to Randy).

Same with white, they demand a premium strictly IMO because of Randy.

The question of whether it's a '75 doesn't matter if it's a '74 spec guitar.
I don't believe I've seen a 20th inlay '75 with a maple neck or a short tenon. I assume Kalamazoo kept running them till they used up the inlays, or as long as they could get away with selling an 'anniversary' guitar.

Gibson also makes now an aged 74 reissue that would be much cheaper than the Rhoads version. Seen them go for around $4k I think. Looks dead on except they have a black painted headstock back

If this is the one I'm thinking of, it's not '74 spec like the RR Sig is. The only other proper Norlin reissue I can think of was the Townshend run.

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I'm still waiting to see if Gibson actually used a trans tenon on the RR guitar, or just went with a long tenon.

 

[blues_n_cues]

So youre saying that in '74 there were non-20th Anniversary whites made? Thats news to me.

They started making them in '74 not '75.. unless you meant to type Mid '74 then my bad.

Everything ive ever read about Randys guitar has never stated that it was definitely a '74, it was up for debate for as long as i know, until this sig was made and Gibson confirmed it was a '74. It would be interesting to find out the pot codes and prove conclusively when it was made and if indeed its a 20th Anniversary just without the Decal, especially when collecting original 20th Anniversaries.

Cool that you met Delores and Randy, how did that come about?

i meant to type '74 my bad.
met Randy w/ ozzy in texas on the Diary tour & met Mrs. Delores during a graveside anniversary thing.

 

[roodyrocker]

As for a difference in price between the two, I doubt it. I haven't seen it. There's one buyer that wants the inlay, and one buyer that doesn't (probably due to Randy).

Same with white, they demand a premium strictly IMO because of Randy.

Because of Randy there is a bit of price difference between the two. A white 74 without the inlay will sell quicker for a bit more money. Although I suppose if someone was after a recreaction of Randy's guitar they could buy it with the 20th Ann inlay and just have that one inlay replaced with a plain one
You are also correct about white demanding a premium because of Randy. In fact, IMHO, I think Randy was to white LP Customs in general what Page is to Bursts

 

[roodyrocker]

i meant to type '74 my bad.
met Randy w/ ozzy in texas on the Diary tour & met Mrs. Delores during a graveside anniversary thing.

You are very lucky, wish I could say the same but unfortunately I can't

 

[blues_n_cues]

Because of Randy there is a bit of price difference between the two. A white 74 without the inlay will sell quicker for a bit more money. Although I suppose if someone was after a recreaction of Randy's guitar they could buy it with the 20th Ann inlay and just have that one inlay replaced with a plain one
You are also correct about white demanding a premium because of Randy. In fact, IMHO, I think Randy was to white LP Customs in general what Page is to Bursts

i was ebay shopping the other day & the 20th w/ inlay were going for more.

 

[roodyrocker]

i was ebay shopping the other day & the 20th w/ inlay were going for more.

I've seen some on E-Bay. It depends on condition and some that I've seen are overseas (UK I believe). Most don't seem to be getting any bids because they're starting off at too high a price to begin with. So those are asking prices. But I really think because of Rhoads, a white 74 Les Paul Custom without the inlay will sell for a bit more than with the inlay provided the condition of both is identical.

 

[dwagar]

I've been told the non-inlays will sell for more, maybe fewer out there, maybe because of Randy. From what I've seen, I think they run about the same. Condition, originality, make a difference, same as any vintage guitar.

 

[Core]

Gibson makes a 68 Les Paul Custom with that aged white color. Perhaps thats the reissue you're thinking of? The 68 reissues are nice guitars!
I don't know if MF is sold out of the 74 RR Les Paul Custom or not but you could try Guitar Center and Sam Ash, both of them had them in their catalogs. In fact Sam Ash's November catalog has Randy on the front cover with them advertising that guitar.

The 68 is nice and something I considered before I found the '82 white LPC I picked up. This is the 74 Custom Shop aged version I am referring to though.
GIBSON CUSTOM SHOP 70'S LES PAUL CUSTOM AGED LTD - eBay (item 260617788280 end time Jan-06-11 10:41:36 PST)

Item #260617788280 $3500

There's also an aged RR new on ebay going for $9K as I suspected. I'm not in the market for one just pointing out they may have been sold out pretty fast and judging by this guys resale effort I'm assuming so as a month ago when they first hit MF the Aged version was around $6500 if I remember right and the VOS version was $5k?

 

[Core]

The market on the 74's is all over the place. There was one on Ebay for $6k recently but I've also seen $3500 prices at shops and as low as 2K for a beater.

 

[dwagar]

This is the 74 Custom Shop aged version I am referring to though.
GIBSON CUSTOM SHOP 70'S LES PAUL CUSTOM AGED LTD - eBay (item 260617788280 end time Jan-06-11 10:41:36 PST)

Item #260617788280 $3500

I don't think those are '74 spec guitars though, just made to look like one.

 

[Core]

You're probably right, the volute and look is about as far as they went maybe. Haven't seen anything on Gibson about them but I suspect there is no pancake body nor three piece neck.

 

[blues_n_cues]

for myself, i want the '74 anniv w/ the inlay.
i'd put black speeds on it & i have a real pokerchip from the sands casino i drilled for the s switch.

Randy is my hero & God la ti da etc etc. but i've loved the color on that guitar more.

i have mine & it's mine- i may play crazy train but when the crowd sees me play it they automatically assume i'm going to bust out on some Rhoads....
i guess it's the same w/ a jimmy burst or ace frehley model...

 

[HDS]

I played the new RR LP Custom on Black Friday. Funny thing was I thought it was a used guitar because they aged everything, even rust and corrosion, stripped screws etc. I own a 71 Custom and it was the only Les Paul on the racks that came anywhere close to the feel of my 71. She did play nice but the neck was still just ah wee bit bigger then my 60's neck. They wanted $5k for her. I was like *shrug* just buy a Org 70's custom cheaper.

 

[Core]

That's exactly how I feel. Most older guitars are much much nicer than the "aged" versions Gibson is putting out now. They usually look very beat up and left outside for sometime with the description you gave, "even rust and corrosion, stripped screws."

The one I pointed out above looks like paint chipping or being pried up instead of what it would usually do which is to just rub down smoothly. Unless of course you have saw blades attached to your arms while you play!

I'm glad they feel close to the originals though that's cool!