- Mar 18, 2007
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This is very true, and it’s kind of how I advertised myself to local bands. My ad said something like “Hey, I’m an intermediate player. I’m not Jimi Hendrix but I can keep up well and play plenty of songs well enough” Not word for word, but it was something along those lines. I always use a backing track when I cover a song. It’s helped me a lot with timing.I didn't necessarily say anything about a band. It applies infinitely more if you play solo. I recently had to play (and sing) a total of ONE song at a party. I practiced it for a week and a half and it was just a simple cowboy chord song. Being a good player is not just about advanced playing....it's about playing even the simplest things well.....with precision, timing, feel.
yeah I used to tap with my middle finger but it's not working well and isn't accurate enough for EVH style. So I've been palming it into my middle finger and then back into playing position when I need it.
Agree mostly.better is a relative question.Some guys sound incredibly impressive, but they can't play outside of a rigid structure.They are lost when that happens,and insert trusted phrases they can play well,because they've played them 1,000's of times.I found most legit guys to be pretty cool, as long as you didn’t try to snow them on your skills.
The only ones who are trouble are the guys who think they could do it better, and sometimes they can which begged the question, why weren’t they in a band.
Motivating myself to play isn’t usually an issue. I spend a good 8 hours total playing on weekends when I don’t have other obligations. I’m just trying to figure out what I should do next to become a better player, while also making sure I’m doing it right.I guess I went the easy route with practicing hours a day and getting better and all that crap.
All of the above...Some have been mentioned. Learn to play complete songs from start to finish and play in a band or with a drummer.
As far as pushing myself I just did (and still) do that by finding other guitarists that do something I don't know how to do and learning to do it.
When I was a kid I learned Sabbath and Zeppelin, then I pushed myself to learn Metallica, then it was Megadeth, then it was Slayer (because they're very fast), then it was Yngwie, Satriani, Alex Skolnick,
In the past 15 or 20 years it was Paco Pena and Paco DeLucia, and Al Dimeola, Brent Mason, Brad Paisley and Danny Gatton.
In the past couple months I've been revisiting Satriani and Skolnick and Jake E Lee, and I've been learning to play Van Halen songs. My hope is to learn all the songs on all the albums plus the solos that I find interesting, (like Jump, You Really Got Me, You're No Good, etc. )
Mostly with EVH it's not the playing that's tricky, it's palming the pick in the middle of playing so you can tap, then pulling the pick out again to play with it. I feel like with EVH I'm practicing a pick-palming/magic trick more than I'm practicing guitar.
But I've gotten pretty fluid with it over the past month, so..... I'm still learning.
Always learning, always writing.
Guitar is a lot of fun. When it stops being fun I stop playing for a while until it's fun again.
Steve Stine and Marty Schwartz for me.From the video that was posted the OP, I kinda meandered down the rabbit hole and discovered Steve Stine. Probably the first guy that really made sense to me in applying basic music theory to the fretboard.
Sorry to clutter up your thread, but I was just giving 'ol Tim a hard time busting his balls a little.Motivating myself to play isn’t usually an issue. I spend a good 8 hours total playing on weekends when I don’t have other obligations. I’m just trying to figure out what I should do next to become a better player, while also making sure I’m doing it right.
An intermediate guitar player IMHO can do all of these and was in the link of my OP:Define intermediate.
Playing four chord songs to a cheering crowd of 20,000.
Bedroom shredder that has a meltdown playing with other musicians.
I've seen both.
Most would call the shredder advanced.
He would also just lightly rest his index finger on the pick.
See I would consider that less than intermediate, and call that knowing the bare bones basics to be functional. I guess it’s a matter of perspective and who you think is advanced.An intermediate guitar player IMHO can do all of these and was in the link of my OP:
"To be considered an intermediate player, you’ll need to be able to do the following:
- Know and be able to change smoothly between your fundamental open chords. - Know power chords and be able to move them around cleanly.
- Know the basic Major and Minor bar chord shapes.
- Know the note names on the Low E and A strings. - You’ll need to have all the basic strumming patterns down. - Be able to play along to a metronome.
- Hear and match Major and Minor chords.
- Hear and identify the keys of simple songs. - Understand music theory for keys and chords. - Play through several complete songs.
- Play the Blues scale.
- Play the Major scale.
- Play the Major Pentatonic Scale.
- Play the Minor Pentatonic Scale.
- You’ll need to know basic lead technique: Picking, Bending, Sliding, & Vibrato.
- Depending on your goals you may need to be able to read music."
This is subjective of course, but it seems about right to me.
Maybe that is a little basic. It's also important to note that knowing how to do what's in the list might be basic, but how you use it is what's more important. Guys have made careers off of what I previously mentioned.See I would consider that less than intermediate, and call that knowing the bare bones basics to be functional. I guess it’s a matter of perspective and who you think is advanced.
Honestly I don’t know. When I was playing I knew music theory as I took it in HS, knew my scales and modes along with some of the exotic variations, had decent technical skills for the time, could move around the neck without a problem, could solo over some outside changes, could play in multiple styles from folk to country to rock to Jazz without much problem, had a basket full of chords, could fake it if needed and was a good band mate. I was asked to join bands with players who were incredible but I always thought of myself as just OK and a lucky SOB.Maybe that is a little basic. It's also important to note that knowing how to do what's in the list might be basic, but how you use it is what's more important. Guys have made careers off of what I previously mentioned.
What would you add? Here's another list that's a bit more advanced than my first.
Guitar Intermediate Skills Overview Are You an Intermediate Player Yet? (For Electric or Acoustic Guitar) By John McCarthy Let’s see if...rockhousemethod.blogspot.com