Proof that logo dont have anything to do with sound

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I had the JB BB and sold it off because the neck was just a little bit too big for me to really fully enjoy. It was just like my Gibson Les Paul Custom Yellow Widow Burst for feel/playability and tone, I mean the two guitars played/felt and sounded almost identical. I sold the Gibson Les Paul Custom as well. The Gibson did have a little bit more Growl, but that can be expected being over 1lb heavier for a little bit deeper tone, but not by much.
 

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Logo Smogo... Who cares... Sometimes ego has a way of making folks weird out....

Jack can play whatever he wants and has em...and he likes the Squier Bullets... stock...


 

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I did feel that way about the older Epiphones, before the Inspired By Gibson line and Epiphone stepping up their Game under new Management. The new Epiphone Les Paul lineup for the Inspired By Gibson line and Signature guitars don't feel cheap to me anymore, they feel really good. I did get a Muse for my daughter because she wanted that purple/pinkish sparkle color and that one does feel cheap. Right away you can feel it in the neck, that something is just off. I did a setup the best I could with it, and it is ok at best. But I have had a Standard 60's and an LP Custom from Epiphone recently besides by Signature Models, and they feel great... Not cheap feeling at all.
I agree man. I don't think the higher end models nor the sig models feel cheap. I guess it's to each is own on this topic.
 

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My Epi is one of those ‘56 Goldtop P90 models that are available from time to time. It plays and sounds better than the real Gibson counterpart made in 1956. I know because I used to play one of those Gibsons 60 years ago.
 

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My Epi is one of those ‘56 Goldtop P90 models that are available from time to time. It plays and sounds better than the real Gibson counterpart made in 1956. I know because I used to play one of those Gibsons 60 years ago.

The Epi '56 Goldtops must be special. In my quest for my P90 Goldtop, I bought and then sold a Gibson 2021 Std 50s P90, then a Maybach Lester GT P90, until I finally found a 2005 Epi '56 and there my search ended!
 

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I feel compelled to share. :dude:
I play these way more than my Gibson GTs.

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IMHO it is never, and should never be about the brand and the logo. It is about how the instrument speaks to you, bonds with you and inspires you.

If it happens to be an accessible brand, so be it. If it happens to be an expensive guitar and you have the $$$ to spare, so be it.

Every time I see people crying about needing an expensive guitar to sound or play good, I point them to Jack Pearson playing his favourite Squier guitars.
 

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Well; while I agree the logo means nothing compared to the fingers regarding tone, I do think there is something to be said for quality of components and construction. My Edwards Les Paul is one of the best playing and sounding guitars I've ever played, and way more affordable than anything else in my collection. My PRS SE feels like it punches in way above its price point too.

By contrast, every Epiphone I've played or owned felt like a toy. Admittedly, I have never tried the JB Lazarus or the inspired by Gibson '59 model, so maybe they've taken some leaps forward that I'm ignorant too. I've just always felt that by the time I buy the Epi, replace pickups, tuners, bridge, wiring, pots, etc. Then have the frets leveled, nut slots filed, etc., I may as well spend a little extra for an Edwards, LTD, PRS SE, ASAT Tribute or Fender Player series and have something that likely plays way better out of the box, and likely doesn't need more than a very basic setup.

If I were to give Epiphone another chance on anything... those Jerry Cantrell Wino guitars look pretty interesting.
 

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Well; while I agree the logo means nothing compared to the fingers regarding tone, I do think there is something to be said for quality of components and construction. My Edwards Les Paul is one of the best playing and sounding guitars I've ever played, and way more affordable than anything else in my collection. My PRS SE feels like it punches in way above its price point too.

By contrast, every Epiphone I've played or owned felt like a toy. Admittedly, I have never tried the JB Lazarus or the inspired by Gibson '59 model, so maybe they've taken some leaps forward that I'm ignorant too. I've just always felt that by the time I buy the Epi, replace pickups, tuners, bridge, wiring, pots, etc. Then have the frets leveled, nut slots filed, etc., I may as well spend a little extra for an Edwards, LTD, PRS SE, ASAT Tribute or Fender Player series and have something that likely plays way better out of the box, and likely doesn't need more than a very basic setup.

If I were to give Epiphone another chance on anything... those Jerry Cantrell Wino guitars look pretty interesting.
the 59 Epiphone is way above the se line from Prs ,better pickups,electrics and build quality,and yes I do speak from experience,I’ve owned both the se standard 22 and the se Tremonti,and 59 is easily equivalent quality if not better than the fender player series,I’ve also owned one of these with Abigail Ybarra pickups.never owned or played ltd,
i have found no issues at all with my Epiphone,infact it is better than the 2 limited edition USA fenders I owned that both cost over 2 k each
 

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The last gig I played before getting too old for that, I went out in the crowd and asked what brand of guitar I was playing. Nobody could tell me. On that occasion, it was a Fender Strat! Probably the most recognizable guitar model there is!
You seriously did this?
 

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Joe Popcorn doesn't know what brand you're playing because Joe Popcorn doesn't even CARE what brand your playing... Furthermore, Joe Popcorn doesn't know a Gib Lester from a damn steak biscuit at Bojangles... Joe Popcorn can't even SEE the logos from where the popcorn munchers sit.

All Joe Popcorn pretty much cares about is hearing Spokane, Gimme Free Chips, China Stove, Fleaturd, Sweet Corn Albuquerque, Blowme Sherry, Cut Rate Rome Ants, etc....

Just is...


:cool2:
 

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the 59 Epiphone is way above the se line from Prs ,better pickups,electrics and build quality,and yes I do speak from experience,I’ve owned both the se standard 22 and the se Tremonti,and 59 is easily equivalent quality if not better than the fender player series,I’ve also owned one of these with Abigail Ybarra pickups.never owned or played ltd,
i have found no issues at all with my Epiphone,infact it is better than the 2 limited edition USA fenders I owned that both cost over 2 k each
I'm actually really glad to hear this and it makes me more interested in trying out a JB Lazarus model. I've seen a few with surprisingly nice tops. My Epiphone comments were based mostly on a Les Paul Special II I bought for my daughter, a matte black "gothic" studio Les Paul I had, and a few customs and Prochecies I've tried over the years.

It's a great thing for guitar players if this "inspired by Gibson" line is raising the bar for quality in the sub $1k range.
 

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I'm actually really glad to hear this and it makes me more interested in trying out a JB Lazarus model. I've seen a few with surprisingly nice tops. My Epiphone comments were based mostly on a Les Paul Special II I bought for my daughter, a matte black "gothic" studio Les Paul I had, and a few customs and Prochecies I've tried over the years.

It's a great thing for guitar players if this "inspired by Gibson" line is raising the bar for quality in the sub $1k range.
i dont think you can go wrong with either a orig 50's or 60's, or any of the 59s. if ya wanna save some money. just depends on what neck profile you like, fat-ish or slim the 50s/60s are no slouches as far as the build quality.
 

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Like any other make or model guitar, some are okay or good, some are great, and some are dog dick.
 

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Joe Popcorn doesn't know what brand you're playing because Joe Popcorn doesn't even CARE what brand your playing... Furthermore, Joe Popcorn doesn't know a Gib Lester from a damn steak biscuit at Bojangles... Joe Popcorn can't even SEE the logos from where the popcorn munchers sit.

All Joe Popcorn pretty much cares about is hearing Spokane, Gimme Free Chips, China Stove, Fleaturd, Sweet Corn Albuquerque, Blowme Sherry, Cut Rate Rome Ants, etc....

Just is...


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Exactly . Quit playing gigs 17 years ago in my mid 30's. Can fool others but hard to fool yourself. Got really old being human jukebox for drunkards and getting home at 3-4 a.m.
 

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For me the Epis feel much cheaper, but that's just my opinion. Great guitars for the price though!

Same here. After reading about all the buzz on this forum about the newer Epis, I’ve been checking them out in local shops. They feel cheap to me. They seem solidly made and okay fine, they just feel cheap.

The Slash model I picked up sounded great unplugged, and was heavy (probably 10lb)…that one was around a grand.

On the other hand, I’ve been on a Traditional spree. I’ve had well over a dozen historics (currently down to two), and I’ve been quite impressed with 4 Traditionals I’ve acquired, Swiss cheese and all. Quite the bang for the buck.

I’ve also owned Edwards, Tokai, and Greco on the past, and always liked those a lot.

Maybe if I find a nice used 59 epi I’ll snag it and give it a shot.
 

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I have both Gibson and Epi. Each guitar is what it is. Most of both of them are dead stock, with the exception of a Casino I bought used that already had a bunch of cool mods, and some mostly purely cosmetic mods on a couple more.

I gig all of them. Here are the Pauls, 4 Gibbies and two Epis.

angled Les Pauls Epi & Gibson 2021 basket chest.jpg


The modded Casino:

Mary Casino with mini stack Marshall Lead 20 & Peavey Triple XXX.jpg


And the chambered solidbody Wildkat:

Goldie Epiphone WildKat with Day of the Dead strap and mini stack Peavey Triple XXX Super 40 E...jpg
 

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Epiphone makes fine guitars, I'm still a bigger fan of the Gibson aesthetic overall (headstock included), but functionally if you have or change to pickups you like it should certainly work. I keep a log on recordings and without that I'd be lost to remember which is which.

My budget only allows for about $8-10k max worth of Gibson at any given time
 

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