Please help dating my ES-335

d0ppler

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Hello :)

I recently bought an used ES-335. The previous owner bought her used as well, but he did put in some new hardware to her.

I have done some research, but there are apparently contradictory "features", so I need your help to sort it out.

So here are some basic facts:
- serial number is 67459 (which indicates 1964)
- the Gibson logo has an enclosed 'b' and 'o' (1969-1984)
- it has imprinted "MADE IN USA" back of headstock (USA on next line) (1970- and on)
- it does NOT have a volute, although this may have been sanded away (volute = 1969-1981)
- it has an orange label inside f-hole where serial number, and place of manufacturing (Kalamazoo, Michigan) (discontinued in, or around 1970)
- the fretboard width is narrower (aprox 40mm / 1.57 inches at the nut) than the usual.

Other info
- it was original cherry (ES-335 TDC), but has been repainted black somewhere during her lifespan
- I have now replaced the modern Grover tuners to the real vintage Gibson Deluxe :)



Here are some pics:
Back of headstock
serialnr1.jpg


Inside upper f-hole #1
serialnr2.jpg


Inside upper f-hole #2
serialnr3.jpg



volute.jpg


hals.jpg




Any info that would put some light to her history is greatly appreciated.
 

GitFiddle

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Some pics of the rest of the guitar would be helpful.

One source I found puts the serial number at 1964 as you said.
year approximate serial range
1964 64240-70500

In 1970, the words "MADE IN USA" was impressed into the back of instrument headstocks (though a few instruments from the 1950s also had MADE IN USA impressed into their headstocks as well).
 

Benjammin

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Maybe it was a 64 that was renecked in 70? (though they probably wouldnt put the original serial # on the second neck :hmm:)
 

Ace1432

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thats definitely the norlin era logo and inlay style.
 

d0ppler

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Here's another picture:

es335.jpg


When Gibson re-necked guitars, is it likely to believe that they imprinted the original serial number into the new headstock?
 

Jura

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Here's another picture:

es335.jpg


When Gibson re-necked guitars, is it likely to believe that they imprinted the original serial number into the new headstock?
The f-holes looks narrower than the ones on 70s models (the transition year is supposed to be 69)..
 

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I think it's early 70s with a refin and a tailpiece mod.
 

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