Pickups for Orville by Gibson LP Custom 3

[LemonBurst67]

Hello everyone,

this is my first post on the Forum.

I am currently owning a Orville By Gibson Les Paul Custom 3 from 1990. I bought this guitar nearly half a year ago and am very happy with it.

At the moment, according to the previous owner and some OBG brochures, it has all the 3 original pickups (see picture), supposedly Gibson USA Pat No pickups. I tried to find some information about that pickup but was astounded by the lack of information I could find.
The neck pickup is rated at 7,89kOhm, the middle pickup 12,93kOhm and the bridge pickup 8,15kOhm. I guess the middle pickup is a ceramic pickup, according to the resistance value.

• What are these pickups? Where could I find some information about them?

I would like to change the pickups in order to make the guitar sound more open and clean. The 3 pickups it has at the moment sound too fat and too scooped for the genres I play, which are mainly (British) blues and classic rock.
In replacement, I would like to fit my Custom with some PAF-like sounding humbuckers. I have another les Paul fitted with Classic 57s as reference; which sound I like, but I would prefer to upgrade to some boutique / higher end pickups.

• Which pickups would you recommend for a Custom 3?

I had Bare Knuckles PG Blues pickups in mind. I am a massive Peter Green enthusiast and would like to have the opportunity to put 2 pickups out of phase (neck and bridge or middle and bridge).

Thanks for helping
Greetings
Yann

 

[Ace Warslave]

The pups look to have the same base plate as T-Tops,

I have the same pups in my 74/75 les paul custom..

 

[swampblues]

Classic 57 were in most OBG

 

[Ace Warslave]

Yes most of us know about 57 classic in Obgs,

the only way to tell if they are T-tops is take a cover off..

T-tops have a T on the cover If they are real but the japanese have some on there ones too..

 

[Ace Warslave]

Ment to say a T on the bobin iside the pup..

 

[GammyBird]

Classic 57 were in most OBG

Just the reissues and select models.

 

[Mustard Caps]

Throbak

PG-102 MXV P.A.F. Humbucker Guitar Pickup Specs.:
Neck 8.2K Bridge 8.6K, long A5 magnets
(Available with or without neck pickup magnet flip.)

Wound with the same output specifications as the vintage PAF pickups in the original "Greenie" Les Paul played by Peter Green and utilizing oriented vintage spec. block charged long A5 the PG-102 MXV offers the power and focus that was such a integral part of the Peter Green pickups sound. With the neck magnet flipped for middle position out of phase tones, these PAF humbucker pickup clones give tonal colors made legendary by the great Peter Green. A stunning variety of tones can be had from simple volume, tone and selector switch adjustment. With coils wound on the ThroBak vintage Leesona 102 winder the PG-102 vintage PAF humbucker pickup clones encapsulates the vintage PAF pickup pickup at its zenith. Specifications include vintage correct reproduction plain enamel magnet wire, Michigan hard maple wood spacer, vintage correct two conductor wire and threaded baseplate. The PG-102 Peter Green pickups with unmatched vintage PAF humbucker accuracy.


For the Middle pickup??

7.70 A4

KZ-115 MXV P.A.F. Humbucker Guitar Pickup Specs.:
Neck and bridge 7.70K-7.57k with your choice of long A2, A4 or A5 magnets. (Standard with long A2).
With our exclusive timed wind, center focused coils.

ThroBak KZ-115 PAF humbucker reproductions represent the tonal dawn of the PAF pickups era with an accuracy that can only be matched if you took a time machine back to the Gibson Kalamazoo factory in 1957. Wound on the very KZ/LP-115 winding machine Gibson used for both PAF humbuckers and P90 pickups in 1957 and rescued from Kalamazoo by none other than Les Paul himself before Gibson's move to Nashville. ThroBak KZ-115 PAF pickups awaken the elusive early PAF pickup dynamics and low end depth of the originals. The KZ-115 owes its distinct tone to the custom Gibson Kalamazoo winding fixtures, wire guides and set-up of the original vintage winder. The original, non adjustable, 1950's lobeless cam traverse and limiting fixtures, wind what we call the KZ-115 vintage center focused coil. These center focused coils create a fuller bobbin for the same number of turns than coils wound on the other known PAF winders, the Leesona 102, Slug 101 and ME-301. The result is a PAF pickup reproduction with added scatter for a woolly low end and crispy/crunchy mids. ThroBak KZ-115 proves again that the machines matter when it comes to vintage PAF accuracy!

 

[LemonBurst67]

Thanks for all the replies!

The pups look to have the same base plate as T-Tops,

I have the same pups in my 74/75 les paul custom..

Classic 57 were in most OBG

Yes most of us know about 57 classic in Obgs,

the only way to tell if they are T-tops is take a cover off..

T-tops have a T on the cover If they are real but the japanese have some on there ones too..

Doesn't the T Top and Classic 57s have a "Patent No" sticker on the back? They don't sound like Classic 57s either, mine have more power and sound too scooped.
I did some research and found an OBG brochure (from when, I don't know). If someone knows japanese ...
The pickup they are showcasing there is a "TM490G". Would that be a Gibson 490 pickup?

 

[LemonBurst67]

Throbak

PG-102 MXV P.A.F. Humbucker Guitar Pickup Specs.:
Neck 8.2K Bridge 8.6K, long A5 magnets
(Available with or without neck pickup magnet flip.)

Wound with the same output specifications as the vintage PAF pickups in the original "Greenie" Les Paul played by Peter Green and utilizing oriented vintage spec. block charged long A5 the PG-102 MXV offers the power and focus that was such a integral part of the Peter Green pickups sound. With the neck magnet flipped for middle position out of phase tones, these PAF humbucker pickup clones give tonal colors made legendary by the great Peter Green. A stunning variety of tones can be had from simple volume, tone and selector switch adjustment. With coils wound on the ThroBak vintage Leesona 102 winder the PG-102 vintage PAF humbucker pickup clones encapsulates the vintage PAF pickup pickup at its zenith. Specifications include vintage correct reproduction plain enamel magnet wire, Michigan hard maple wood spacer, vintage correct two conductor wire and threaded baseplate. The PG-102 Peter Green pickups with unmatched vintage PAF humbucker accuracy.


For the Middle pickup??

7.70 A4

KZ-115 MXV P.A.F. Humbucker Guitar Pickup Specs.:
Neck and bridge 7.70K-7.57k with your choice of long A2, A4 or A5 magnets. (Standard with long A2).
With our exclusive timed wind, center focused coils.

ThroBak KZ-115 PAF humbucker reproductions represent the tonal dawn of the PAF pickups era with an accuracy that can only be matched if you took a time machine back to the Gibson Kalamazoo factory in 1957. Wound on the very KZ/LP-115 winding machine Gibson used for both PAF humbuckers and P90 pickups in 1957 and rescued from Kalamazoo by none other than Les Paul himself before Gibson's move to Nashville. ThroBak KZ-115 PAF pickups awaken the elusive early PAF pickup dynamics and low end depth of the originals. The KZ-115 owes its distinct tone to the custom Gibson Kalamazoo winding fixtures, wire guides and set-up of the original vintage winder. The original, non adjustable, 1950's lobeless cam traverse and limiting fixtures, wind what we call the KZ-115 vintage center focused coil. These center focused coils create a fuller bobbin for the same number of turns than coils wound on the other known PAF winders, the Leesona 102, Slug 101 and ME-301. The result is a PAF pickup reproduction with added scatter for a woolly low end and crispy/crunchy mids. ThroBak KZ-115 proves again that the machines matter when it comes to vintage PAF accuracy!

Thanks for all the details! I'll check them out.

 

[jimmyjames]

At those prices, you're in the Dry Z ballpark

 

[Ace Warslave]

T-top has the same number on your pups,

490s pretty sure they came stamped gibson..

side note if they are T-tops value wise about 1k a set you have 3..