Phaez SIBLY vs Marshall Plexi 100w

[Lzwb]

I have a 4x12 cabinet with greenbacks, and I plan on getting a new amp soon. The tone i'm trying to achieve is that mid 70s jimmy page tone.

I cant decide on getting a Marshall Plexi 100w or a Phaez Sibly 50 watt w/ El34's.

Obviously these amps will be extremely loud, so I'm going to use a rivera rockcrusher to attenuate it, to me it sounds great and there is no loss of tone on my other amps, even at low volumes.

The Phaez Sibly will be around $1000 including a head cabinet, and the SLP would be around $1250

I really don't know which one to choose, the Phaez's get great reviews but for the tone i'm going for it seems like it would be stupid to get one considering that the SIBLY is supposed to be a cranked plexi flavored amp, when I could just get a real plexi for a little bit more money. On the other hand, the Phaez SIBLY's sound so good in demos. I can't make up my mind.

If you were in my situation, money not being an issue considering its only a $200-300 difference, which amp would you buy?

 

[bulletproof]

Money not being an issue??? BOTH

 

[Marshall & Moonshine]

I'd go for the SLP. It has the name that will make it easy to re-sell if you don't get what you want out of it. You already have the attenuator, right? I'd give the Marshall a go, if you've got a line on one.

 

[V2]

I think the Sibly would have more gain. I haven't seen a schematic, but I think I've read that it is similar to daisycutter, no? Maybe I'm thinking of a different Phaez...

 

[Frogfur]

If ya want the sound..you got to have the gear. Marshall vore here where do you play? The Holkywood bowl? Where you gonba use that Marshall volume?

 

[SWeAT hOg]

Who's gonna work on the Phaez if it needs servicing. I'd go for the Marshall, myself.

 

[{JAKE}]

If it were me, I'd go with the Marshall, but with the new Fryette Power Station for the attenuator. But thats just me. Maybe the Phaez will have more gain? Maybe you need that...maybe not.

 

[mdubya]

I wouldn't buy a new Marshall. But I would go for a faithful 1959 Plexi replica.

Where's Fenn? He will tell ya what you need.

 

[mbell75]

I have a 4x12 cabinet with greenbacks, and I plan on getting a new amp soon. The tone i'm trying to achieve is that mid 70s jimmy page tone.

I cant decide on getting a Marshall Plexi 100w or a Phaez Sibly 50 watt w/ El34's.

Why wouldn't you go for the Plexi then? No brainer. Page used a Marshall SLP-1959 Super Lead in the 70s. However, in 75 he swapped the KT66s to 88s for more headroom.

 

[The_Nuge]

i wouldn't buy a new marshall. But i would go for a faithful 1959 plexi replica.

Where's fenn? He will tell ya what you need.

a yjm100 :d

 

[wrc73]

If you are looking for cranked NMV tone go for the NMV amp. I am sure that you would be happy with the SIBLY, and if you want more gain than the plexi has on tap it would be the way to go, otherwise, it sounds like the Marshall would best suit your needs.

 

[wrc73]

I think the Sibly would have more gain. I haven't seen a schematic, but I think I've read that it is similar to daisycutter, no? Maybe I'm thinking of a different Phaez...

I think the SIBLY is a SLP inspired circuit with cascaded gain stages, effects loop, and a MV. Randy doesn't make clones so there are probably some other tweaks in there, but I don't know any specifics.

 

[mbell75]

If you are looking for cranked NMV tone go for the NMV amp. I am sure that you would be happy with the SIBLY, and if you want more gain than the plexi has on tap it would be the way to go, otherwise, it sounds like the Marshall would best suit your needs.

A Plexi will have plenty of gain for the mid 70s Page sound he wants, its pretty much the same amp Page used minus the mods If for some odd reason its not enough, just add your favorite OD pedal. In fact, here are Page's tone settings he used on his Plexi.

Presence = 10 Bass = 9 Mids = 3 Treble = 5 Volume I = 6 Volume II = 6

 

[ac/dcfan87]

These two amps are not comparable no offense. Marshall by a mile.

 

[wrc73]

These two amps are not comparable no offense. Marshall by a mile.

Who could ever take offense to such an innocuous comment.

I like a Marshall amp as much as the next guy, thus my comments above stating that the Marshall sounds like the way to go for the OP. However, I would think that one's needs would dictate whether the two amps are comparable or not. If the OP wanted mid 70's Page tone and the ability to play 80's stuff without using a pedal the SIBLY would be the better fit, as would any other similar amps made by other builders.

 

[ac/dcfan87]

Who could ever take offense to such an innocuous comment.

I like a Marshall amp as much as the next guy, thus my comments above stating that the Marshall sounds like the way to go for the OP. However, I would think that one's needs would dictate whether the two amps are comparable or not. If the OP wanted mid 70's Page tone and the ability to play 80's stuff without using a pedal the SIBLY would be the better fit, as would any other similar amps made by other builders.

Maybe. But that's bringing many other amps into the equation. And I could think of many other amps that would do it better than the Sibly, and at a lower volume as well. The reason I say that they are not comparable is because tone wise they are not comparable. The Sibly IMO sounds nothing like a Plexi. It might be more similar to a JCM or Soldano or some other high gain beast but not a Plexi. And certainly master volume vs NMV - the tone is completely different. The Plexi is about gradual breakup and vintage tone and just pure power. The Sibly is a high gain beast essentially so no I don't think they are close enough tone wise to really be a true comparison but YMMV from mine.

 

[Matty]

SLP.

 

[V2]

There is a big difference in tone and feel between a cascaded preamp and a parallel-input preamp. So if you are hoping to nail the tone and feel of a particular amp, you should probably stick to that amp's topology. Any deviations from that topology will cause the tone to deviate too.

 

[wrc73]

Seems like a unanimous vote for the SLP! Of course, it's only a matter of time until a vote for a modeling amp is cast.

 

[V2]

Question: why not a 50W Marshall (1987x)? or a clone of one of those Marshall amps? or an awesome Traynor YBA-1?