Peter Green-Gary Moore

[Jessenoah]

 

[Emerald]

Ouch! Your suggestion for me to follow the LPF stuff dosent look as respectful as you made out.
Just a joke mate...read some of the threads there to realise how ridiculous some of this gets.. and am a member there and have to watch what I say,
It could well be a different pickup than when PG had it ..
Emerald

 

[BOBBO]

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[Nigel Tufnel's tech]

Just a joke mate...read some of the threads there to realise how ridiculous some of this gets.. and am a member there and have to watch what I say,

No worries Emerald, If they kick you out they'll be the ones losing out, not you... Keep the cool Peter/Gary stuff coming as i love there stuff.

 

[eric ernest]

I also left a message for Eric Ernest, who has dropped off the radar recently, I tried to contact him last month, he has/knows where Greeny is, the vault in Miami and I posed our questions to him and await a reply:

Hey Chief, just real busy!

I never took the PG LP pickup apart as it is not my guitar.

Gibson is finalizing prototypes for the PG guitar now...So I may be in Miami soon as the PG LP will be for sale once the guitar is reissued.

In the mean time...Here's a close up of Greenie!

Peter Green Les Paul close up details of guitar

 

[Nigel Tufnel's tech]

Gibson is finalizing prototypes for the PG guitar now...So I may be in Miami soon as the PG LP will be for sale once the guitar is reissued.

Has Peter or Gary been involved in this process or have they been bypassed. Have they agreed to have there names associated with this reissue.

 

[Big_dawg]

hes not been involved in any part of the process....

 

[Nigel Tufnel's tech]

hes not been involved in any part of the process....

I'm not surprised. with the money that will be made from that guitar I'm sure Gibson wants most of it to stay with them.

 

[Big_dawg]

When I first heard about this it was an 'inspired by' PG, which I took to mean they dont have to pay any money to the artists, but if this is a full blown replica being sold with the PG name if Gibson dont give him any royalties thats quite out of order - hes not the wealthiest of guitarists. But then Peter has turned down gibson on numerous occasions when theyve approached him about this, I guess customer demand and profits take over...

 

[Nigel Tufnel's tech]

When I first heard about this it was an 'inspired by' PG, which I took to mean they dont have to pay any money to the artists, but if this is a full blown replica being sold with the PG name if Gibson dont give him any royalties thats quite out of order - hes not the wealthiest of guitarists. But then Peter has turned down gibson on numerous occasions when theyve approached him about this, I guess customer demand and profits take over...

But wont it be a Peter Green/Gary Moore replica? That guitar is not in the same state as it was when Peter had it, so they would need to use both names and have to pay the both i would think,. if they are going to market it properly that is.

 

[Big_dawg]

I was thinking about this and was about to say the same thing, but in the eyes of the les paul'aholic what would be more desirable a 59 P Green replica or a PG / G Moore replica?? Without being disrespectful to Gary Moore I dont think he has the same 'pull' as a straight Greeny burst, and I dont know him but I get the impression Gary Moore may be a bit more financially savvy (ie want a cut!) about having his name used to sell something....

 

[Emerald]

I always wanted a replica of Stripe..seriously, way before all the controversy.
Thanks for your reply Eric, glad you are busy and thanks for the pic..
Dave/Emerald

 

[eric ernest]

I don't believe I have posted this photo on the forum...at least this BIG anayway. Great shot of some of the detail.

Peter Green Les Paul. 1959 Gibson Les Paul Standard owned by Peter Green and Gary Moore.

Peter Green Les Paul. 1959 Gibson Les Paul Standard owned by Peter Green and Gary Moore.

Peter Green Les Paul. 1959 Gibson Les Paul Standard owned by Peter Green and Gary Moore.

 

[greenalbatross]

Nice to see you here David! Joseph(AbbeSauniere) here. Hope you're doing well and have fully recovered!

Concerning Peter's wah...I would love to know what model he used! His wah tone on his 1st solo album ranks as one of my favorites!

As far as the magnet flip vs. reverse rewind...Sam Lee, is somewhat of a mythical figure. Very few people seem to know who he actually is...allegedly, Sam Lee isn't even his real name. I have 2 sets of Peter Green style pickups. One set with a magnet flip and one that was wound backwards. I don't hear a difference in the quality of the out of phase tones. Some claim that there is no or less volume drop when the neck has been wound backwards, but I don't hear it. Pickup height plays a HUGE role in the volume output and degree of phase in the middle position along with volume and tone pot settings.

Just bought a copy of "Instant Peter Green" after seeing this thread. Jeez, did it cost me a small bundle! Can't wait till it arrives.

New site looks great David!

 

[Emerald]

Thanks Joseph for the kind words, I have much more planned for my site in the future!
The "Instant Peter Green book is great Douglas Noble does a great job of transcription..
Gary would be the first to say how much Peter contributed with Greeny and wouldn't be offended in the least if the replica was based on the Peter Green period.
I have become more understanding of Gary as I have grown older, we are approximately the same age. He still plays for the love of music and playing.
Dr. Vintage has told me having the out of phase wiing on a push pull pot, is more natural than a magnet flip which messes up the pickup, just to get that sound, with the out of phase wiring one can wotch back and forth between the out of phase sound and the normal setting.
Thanks again
Emerald Dave

 

[Emerald]

This is what Rick Norman says about the magnet flips in newer PAF's:

For those who like to experiment with the Out Of Phase sound option, I recommend that you take advantage of the option of a multi-conductor lead on one pickup. I don't recommend the popular 'magnet flip'. The orientation of the magnets is crucial to the sound of each pickup. Flipping the magnet will alter the tone of the pickup by itself. Having a multi-conductor lead allows you to accomplish Out Of Phase tones with a simple wire connection change at the volume pot, leaving the individual pickup in its original configuration to give you its best tone when used by itself. It also allows you to return the middle-position wiring to normal without having to remove the pickup from the guitar again to reorient the magnet. This option is available at no extra charge.

Rick Norman Pickups Models

Rick knows his stuff, trust me his pickups will be blowing up, as they say, big time, I have heard the future of pickups and they are Rick Normans!!
Emerald

 

[Tsukiyomi]

This is what Rick Norman says about the magnet flips in newer PAF's:

For those who like to experiment with the Out Of Phase sound option, I recommend that you take advantage of the option of a multi-conductor lead on one pickup. I don't recommend the popular 'magnet flip'. The orientation of the magnets is crucial to the sound of each pickup. Flipping the magnet will alter the tone of the pickup by itself. Having a multi-conductor lead allows you to accomplish Out Of Phase tones with a simple wire connection change at the volume pot, leaving the individual pickup in its original configuration to give you its best tone when used by itself. It also allows you to return the middle-position wiring to normal without having to remove the pickup from the guitar again to reorient the magnet. This option is available at no extra charge.

Rick Norman Pickups Models

Rick knows his stuff, trust me his pickups will be blowing up, as they say, big time, I have heard the future of pickups and they are Rick Normans!!
Emerald

Which is exactly how I did mine (accidentally) and I'm happy with the result

 

[banditguitarist1]

I gotta thank you guys for this thread it really made me take notice of Mr.Moore!!

 

[eric ernest]

Just found this photo in a folder. Thought you guys may enjoy a nice detail shot of the volume knob area!

Peter Green Les Paul Gary Moore Les Paul Melvyn Franks Les Paul

Peter Green Les Paul Gary Moore Les Paul Melvyn Franks Les Paul

 

[mono]

Emerald, you are a fountain of knowledge on this subject! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us