Particle board headstock!!!!!?????

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As a private guitar teacher, I often perform repair and setup work at cost of materials for my students. I figure if they have a proper playing instrument they are likely to play more. And of course I encourage them to invest in quality instruments.......that said.......

A new student started the other day. She has a well setup Squire Strat and also brought an acoustic that she said "has a broken string". OK, let's take a look....she pulls it out of the bag and one of the tuners is missing. The guitar is a "Spectrum".....cheap as all hell, but the joints are clean and the neck is straight, nothing wrong but a cheap guitar and a missing tuner. I check on StewMac, $33 for a set of tuners, plus some strings and she has a playable acoustic......nowhere near as good as a $200 Yamaha, but not much money and her dad says "sure, fix it".

So the tuners eventually arrive and I start pulling the old ones out. The screws practically fall out of the back and the bushings indeed literally fall out. The holes look like they were drilled with a rusty drill bit operated by a drunk. Eventually I conclude that drilling them clean, plugging with hardwood dowels and re-drilling is the only option. So I start doing just that, only to discover the headstock is some kind of particle/chip board! There is a hard "shell" around the outside, but it is particle/chip inside - like a cheap shelf board.

I should have taken some pics, but didn't think about it until I had already plugged all the holes. I figured the body was all ply, but never would have guessed the neck was some sort of press board. Insane! Anyone else seen anything like this?

BTW, this is the same brand and similar to the guitar in question....slightly different model number though. https://www.amazon.com/Spectrum-Acoustic-Natural-AIL-36S/dp/B008AD88EY
 

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Have you ever dealt with one of those Esteban guitars?

There were tales of the guitar's formaldehyde glue joints under string pressure literally exploding.

Bridges flying off.. fretboards coming off..
 

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Have you ever dealt with one of those Esteban guitars?

There were tales of the guitar's formaldehyde glue joints under string pressure literally exploding.

Bridges flying off.. fretboards coming off..
Wow, were they some kinda pressed composite then?
 

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I wonder if the entire neck is made of Weetabix too?

That reminds me of some cheap BC Rich electrics that were made in the late 80s or early 90s that had bodies made of some kind of foam wrapped in a hard shell. I don't know where manufacturers come up with these ideas, but I wouldn't want a guitar made out of any of that garbage.
 

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Weetabix. Lol.

I can just see an infant teething on the headstock.
 

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Wow, were they some kinda pressed composite then?

I have no idea.

I did read of several accounts of whatever the fret board was coated in coming off on the fingers like some oily goo.

And that there were flies trapped in the finish.
 
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I wonder if the entire neck is made of Weetabix too?

That reminds me of some cheap BC Rich electrics that were made in the late 80s or early 90s that had bodies made of some kind of foam wrapped in a hard shell. I don't know where manufacturers come up with these ideas, but I wouldn't want a guitar made out of any of that garbage.
There is a scarf joint just below the headstock (or at least a picture of one on the veneer, LoL). My guess is the headstock is this pressboard crap and the neck itself is some kind of cheap wood (flat sawn with lots of grain runout btw). But no flies in the finish.....
 

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Seen that on some Chibson a guy sent in. Some tuner holes were also drilled crooked, filled with putty and wadded up masking tape, and redrilled (slightly less crooked).
 

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Have you ever dealt with one of those Esteban guitars?

There were tales of the guitar's formaldehyde glue joints under string pressure literally exploding.

Bridges flying off.. fretboards coming off..
esteban.jpg
 


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