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I'm loving my Dark Terror with both of my Lesters and have the chance to perhaps get (used) a Bret Hines Terror or a Jim Root #4 model. Each of these I have seen with attractive used prices. For those that own the Dark Terror, which of the two I'm contemplating would you say might be a good fit or would compliment the Dark Terror? I've heard that the Hines is designed along the lines of more ”Marshall” in its tone. Do any here own both a Dark Terror and one of two two prospective Terrors that I mention? Which is your favorite if any?


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I was looking at those exact 3 before settling on my DT. My second choice.. was the Hinds sig. Just for a bit of a different vibe. My understanding of the #4 and the DT is that they are virtually the same except that instead of the single blend knob, the #4 has separate TMB. Considering that, i assumed similar voicing. And i didnt really want 2 amps that potentially would sound the same.
I still keep a lookout for the Hinds model. I like its differences enough to get one and try it. And it sounds great on the reviews.

I do like my Dark terror though. I tend to use it with the gain around noon. Anything above that and i find it does fizz a bit
 

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I agree with you re: gain position. Mine is “stuck” just short of 11. It gives me touch control much better noon or higher.

Is not the Bret Hines In more of the “Marshall” camp?


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I agree with you re: gain position. Mine is “stuck” just short of 11. It gives me touch control much better noon or higher.

Is not the Bret Hines In more of the “Marshall” camp?


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I think i read somewhere that the circuit was similar in some or other way.. i dont really know.. the tech stuff is beyond me.. I see el84.. i equate it to middy and chimey with little head room.. and i get all hot and bothered. Thats the sort of thing i go for. Hell i like my cleans a bit grimey and sticky..
 

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I think i read somewhere that the circuit was similar in some or other way.. i dont really know.. the tech stuff is beyond me.. I see el84.. i equate it to middy and chimey with little head room.. and i get all hot and bothered. Thats the sort of thing i go for. Hell i like my cleans a bit grimey and sticky..
“Cleans a bit grimey and sticky” is the way I like it, but rolling Back guitar volume cleans up a bit. Love it!

Would. $375.00 on the Hines be called outrageous? Condition would be excellent, that I know, but I never played the Hines.

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“Cleans a bit grimey and sticky” is the way I like it, but rolling Back guitar volume cleans up a bit. Love it!

Would. $375.00 on the Hines be called outrageous? Condition would be excellent, that I know, but I never played the Hines.

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No idea. I am not in US so am not close to costing of these there. If i do the exchange conversion.. its roughly half of what it would retail for here. But gear is quite expensive on my side of the atlantic.
 

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I'm in the great state of New York, so despite sales tax, I guess I'm not complaining, and especially thinking of countries with V.A.T. and the like. My philosophy is: “What is a fair price, really?” especially today where governments keep printing what we work for and it keeps losing its' “clout”. But, that's another story.

Orange amps seem to be pretty sturdy and tone-full, n addition, so there is some “value” for me in knowing that.


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“Cleans a bit grimey and sticky” is the way I like it, but rolling Back guitar volume cleans up a bit. Love it!

Would. $375.00 on the Hines be called outrageous? Condition would be excellent, that I know, but I never played the Hines.

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For $375, you could always try it out for some fun, and then flip it if it's doesn't jive.
 

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OR15. If you are looking for something more "70s/80s" or "Marshally" that's the route to go if you cannot do the AD30. - IMO the OR15 does a better job than the R15/Hinds or other Terror series in those respects.

I've bought and sold two of the things, and a third is in my sights. Fantastic fun, those amps.
 

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OR15. If you are looking for something more "70s/80s" or "Marshally" that's the route to go if you cannot do the AD30. - IMO the OR15 does a better job than the R15/Hinds or other Terror series in those respects.

I've bought and sold two of the things, and a third is in my sights. Fantastic fun, those amps.
That was at the top of my list...except for me, a dual clean/dirt channel amp with a footswitch is a must. I found what I wanted in the R15T. FWIW, it has an excellent ‘terror’ tone on the dirt channel and the clean natural channel is perfect for pedals of any kind -fuzz/distortion/modulation- all sound fantastic.
 

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That was at the top of my list...except for me, a dual clean/dirt channel amp with a footswitch is a must. I found what I wanted in the R15T. FWIW, it has an excellent ‘terror’ tone on the dirt channel and the clean natural channel is perfect for pedals of any kind -fuzz/distortion/modulation- all sound fantastic.
Yup, the OR15 is old school- cleans are via your guitar volumes- the amp has little clean headroom. But It was designed for the fantastic filth ;)
 

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I had a TT combo for a few years, great Class A distortion but bit of a one trick pony for my purposes.
 

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UPDATE: Well, my Jim Root source has sold the one I discussed with the owner and only had it about two years....for the inevitable loss, sad for him. I could not bring myself to get it. I'm “married” (sort of) to my Dark Terror and two Les Pauls. The Dark Terror has been with me for three years and I guess that I'm thoroughly familiar with its nuances and ways to bring out it's crunch to clean and back; just with the guitar volume knob and still keep it at a sane practice volume. All of this after having it go “down” on me causing a couple of shipping and tube expenses.

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UPDATE: Well, my Jim Root source has sold the one I discussed with the owner and only had it about two years....for the inevitable loss, sad for him. I could not bring myself to get it. I'm “married” (sort of) to my Dark Terror and two Les Pauls. The Dark Terror has been with me for three years and I guess that I'm thoroughly familiar with its nuances and ways to bring out it's crunch to clean and back; just with the guitar volume knob and still keep it at a sane practice volume. All of this after having it go “down” on me causing a couple of shipping and tube expenses.

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Take a look at the Rocker 15 Terror or the OR15, those are my favorite small Oranges. :yesway:
 

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I agree with you re: gain position. Mine is “stuck” just short of 11. It gives me touch control much better noon or higher.

Is not the Bret Hines In more of the “Marshall” camp?


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Saw a few videos various YouTube channels did ar NAMM 2018 when the Brent Hinds Terror, Rocker 15 Terror and the vertical 2x12 were all launched. Ade Emsley did describe the Hinds as JMP-ish in one vid I remember.

Cannot speak for that as I've never played one. Tried a Rocker 15 Terror once and have had my eye on getting one ever since.

I also have a Tiny Terror I might only part with if I was getting a Hard Wired version. Love that thing.
 

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I had a Dark Terror for years, love the gain on her, this is totally the best gain I have ever had on an amp.
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I picked up the Rocker 15 Terror and it was very sweet, but I got tired quickly switching between the two amps and wanted a two channel amp rather than two amps. I also wanted more clean headroom but of course I still wanted the Dark Terror Gain. I moved over to the TH30 for a little more of everything and still get that Dark Terror type of gain. I just love the Orange Dark Terror and TH30 gain for sure, and the clean is really nice on the TH30 with Bass/Treble, this amp is really the best for me.
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My Rocker 15 Terror is my favourite smaller wattage amp I've ever heard. I've tried several and heard many more. The Hinds is basically the same amp with an increase to the base gain level. I don't like it as much, as I find that the R15T is much more versatile.
 
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I had a Dark Terror for years, love the gain on her, this is totally the best gain I have ever had on an amp.
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I picked up the Rocker 15 Terror and it was very sweet, but I got tired quickly switching between the two amps and wanted a two channel amp rather than two amps. I also wanted more clean headroom but of course I still wanted the Dark Terror Gain. I moved over to the TH30 for a little more of everything and still get that Dark Terror type of gain. Just Love Orange Dark Terror and TH30 gain for sure, and the clean is really nice on the TH30 with Bass/Treble, this amp is really the best for me.
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I'd call that good sound reasoning. I considered the TH30 that you now have. I do not need the 30 watts a four power tubes to find now and then, so my Dark Terror seems just about right for my wants.

What power tubes do you have in the TH30, and do they last a reasonable length of time?

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