Online shopping sales tax

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So, everybody knows that a couple years ago they kicked in a requirement that all online retailers collect sales tax. That came as a shock to a few people when they got to the checkout and saw this additional cost on there. On large purchases, it could really add a lot. I was thinking about this today, that online shopping has really skyrocketed in recent years. When they started collecting sales tax, that had to be a tremendous amount of money, in the billions maybe? Where the hell is all that money? I didn’t see any evidence of it showing up or benefiting anybody. Am I missing something?
 

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Man this isn’t a political question but its hard to answer without a political answer.

in any case they probably spend it on the same crap they waste the toll money on!
 
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This is not meant as a sarcastic reply, but do you know where your property taxes go?
How about the sales tax on that shirt, sandwich, or washer/dryer you bought..?
If memory serves, here in Texas it goes into the general fund that the state uses to pay for everything.
So, all the internet sales tax is what states use pay their bills.
 

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I guess I know what the money is used for, but I never heard anybody suggest that there was a whole lot more as a result of this additional tax. It had to be a gigantic amount of money, and I didn’t see any improvement to anything equal to the amount of money that they received.
 

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Could be in salaries. If the garbage man, teachers, dogcatcher, person renewing your drivers license got a 5% raise, that's a lot of money. And it's something you would never see.
 

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Yep....as a small business I can tell you sales tax collections and payment can be frustrating......

Not all states are playing the same game.........ie...destination based tax,origin tax, no sales tax.......

Then to add insult to injury local jurisdictions...ie cities,and counties create their own fvking rules.....

Its all bullshit....the lack of consistency and over reach create waste, payment avoidance and government control......

Allowing every little fvking municipality to set its own rules is a joke.......
 

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I guess I know what the money is used for, but I never heard anybody suggest that there was a whole lot more as a result of this additional tax. It had to be a gigantic amount of money, and I didn’t see any improvement to anything equal to the amount of money that they received.

I see many taxes as relative and rarely improve anything definitively............
 

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Is this some kind of a joke? Well, it's not funny. Mostly.
 

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Well, since there was a pretty well established track record of all our other tax money being squandered and wasted, it really should come as no surprise that wherever this money went was to some pointless waste as well.

It's all pretty well taken care of by our politicians who managed to become millionaires on a 170k salaries.
 

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Yep....as a small business I can tell you sales tax collections and payment can be frustrating......

Not all states are playing the same game.........ie...destination based tax,origin tax, no sales tax.......

Then to add insult to injury local jurisdictions...ie cities,and counties create their own fvking rules.....

Its all bullshit....the lack of consistency and over reach create waste, payment avoidance and government control......
THIS.


Allowing every little fvking municipality to set its own rules is a joke.......
But not this.
To avoid getting "political" I will summon my most basic lesson on Liberty from the high school government and economics classes I taught:
True and lasting liberty does not come from one central government in The Swamp issuing sweeping, blanket edicts with no accountability.

I completely understand where you're coming from, but allowing every little municipality to set its own rules is absolutely the way to go. The people who live there have a chance of changing anything they don't like.
The idea of subsidiarity, allowing decisions to be made at the lowest possible level by people actually involved and directly affected, is a central idea in what our Founders wisely imagined.

Example: Mayberry, RFD has a handful of officials in their tiny rural town.
But federal laws applying to EVERYTHING they do, with the costs that come with it all?
Do we need a federal regulation specifying what color shirt the dog catcher should wear? Is he law enforcement, or a utility worker?

How about this?
The dog catcher's shirts are old and stained and threadbare. His wife has been sewing them up, but he has had to wear his personal shirts a few times just to get through the day.
So finally the lady who is the secretary to the mayor and the sheriff, as well as the county clerk in the court house, notices and says "We need to get you some new shirts. What do you want?"

He tells her, the mayor signs off on it, and she orders them.

DONE.

Once every rule, law, or executive order that affects and controls your life comes from the federal level, you have ZERO chance of changing it.
We have a "Federal Department of" every damned thing you can think of now, with federal enforcement and prosecutorial capabilities, not to mention the accompanying unbridled enthusiasm in the millions of well-compensated employees who are usually anonymous and almost always immune to prosecution.

Take it from the guy who as been asked to leave city hall meetings and school board meetings for publicly asking difficult questions of appointed and ESPECIALLY elected leaders in my community.
When the deputy is directed to escort you out, shut up, smile, and cooperate. You will be able to resume your efforts tomorrow, with the support of every witness in the meeting.

At the local level, if you don't like something, there's still a good chance you can get it changed.
Or ultimately, get a bureaucratic moron removed from his position.

It's not a perfect system, but it's still the best.
 
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I remember when the debate was going on about opening casinos here in PA. The pitch was that the revenue generated would eliminate property taxes.

Here it is, many years later, my property taxes are higher than ever and the casinos are raking it in.
 

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sales tax is a thing, and has to be paid....but I think paying sales tax on used/second-hand stuff is absolutely wrong.

Sales tax has been paid on that stuff once.
Property tax seems way worse to me. You pay tax to buy a thing. Then next year, they say "Oh hey, I see you still own that thing. Pay us more taxes". Rinse and repeat forever.
 

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You guys should be thankful you got away with no tax for so many years. I'm In Canada and we've always had to pay sales tax on on-line buys.

How does it work down there, do you pay your home state tax, or tax from the other state? We pay home province.
 

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How does it work down there, do you pay your home state tax...?
I'm not certain but I believe Reverb assesses tax at the rate of the state of the buyer's residence.
Anybody know this for sure?
 

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