NVGD!!!! 1960 Les Paul SG Standard (issues restoration project)

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That is great man, this is the best thread I have read on here in while.
How does the guitar play ?
 

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Just received my '61 LP/SG. If you'd ever like to compare notes, Kevin, I'm in the Bay Area.
 

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On the subject of tuners, RS Guitar works sells those double ring, single stripe Klusons that came on the 60/61 models. The tuners on my one-owner '61 literally had their plastic keys turn to dust, so I was glad to find original replacements. RS sells these in both "new" and "aged" finish. I bought aged. When I got them, they looked like they had been in the dump for the last 50 years! I had to do a bit of cleaning and polishing to make them look original to the rest of the hardware.
 

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How does the guitar play unplugged. Just throw some aftermarket pickups in.
 

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On the subject of tuners, RS Guitar works sells those double ring, single stripe Klusons that came on the 60/61 models. The tuners on my one-owner '61 literally had their plastic keys turn to dust, so I was glad to find original replacements. RS sells these in both "new" and "aged" finish. I bought aged. When I got them, they looked like they had been in the dump for the last 50 years! I had to do a bit of cleaning and polishing to make them look original to the rest of the hardware.

I have a set of these if you're interested, Kevin. I'm about to take them off my LP and install some aged Grovers.
 

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I have a set of these if you're interested, Kevin. I'm about to take them off my LP and install some aged Grovers.

Thanks for the offer. I think for now I'm going leave the repro tuners that are already on it. They work fine and I can always change them out later. I do appreciate the offer though.
 

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How does the guitar play unplugged. Just throw some aftermarket pickups in.

The guitar plays INCREDIBLY well unplugged. Very vibrant and rings like a bell.

I'm usually not fan of thin necks, I prefer the baseball bat necks on the R7/R8/R9. This one feels really nice though and I have to say I really like it a lot. It has quickly become my favorite guitar and even unplugged I can't seem to put it down.

I am ordering a pair of Duncan Antiquities for it for now. Later on I will buy some vintage patent sticker pickups for it.
 

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The guitar plays INCREDIBLY well unplugged. Very vibrant and rings like a bell.

I'm usually not fan of thin necks, I prefer the baseball bat necks on the R7/R8/R9. This one feels really nice though and I have to say I really like it a lot. It has quickly become my favorite guitar and even unplugged I can't seem to put it down.

I am ordering a pair of Duncan Antiquities for it for now. Later on I will buy some vintage patent sticker pickups for it.

When a guitar sounds good accoustically, most pickups will sound great. :slash:
 

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UPDATE!!!

Just got her back from my luthier. He insatalled:

1. A set of Duncan Antiquites.
2. An original M69 neck pickup ring and original screws (the bridge ring is repro for now).
3. A pair of original thumbwheels under the ABR.
4. An original set of tuner ferrules.
5. A full set of vintage Kluson stamped double line double ring tuners.
6. A pair of strap locks (because I intend to play the shit out of this thing).

It turned out GREAT. I couldn't be happier, it sounds amazing!!!

Here are some pics :dude:

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awesome KJ...and kudos for adding some of the "touches" back to it...
 

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Wow, that looks great. This is a great story, congratulations.

Did you see these? Vintage 1961 Gibson Les Paul SG Pickup Rings PAF - eBay (item 200574571293 end time Feb-13-11 19:25:07 PST)

(item #200574571293)

Great seller, I've bought from him before.


fletch

Thanks :)

Yes, I did see those. I already have the neck ring and really don't need another, but I can't find a bridge ring ANYWHERE so I was going to buy the pair until I saw the bridge ring is cracked. I just felt it was too expensive all things considered. But, the hunt continues.
 

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I like the nice straight tight wood grain in the body. Nice find.
 

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Sweet! Is that a blood stain in the lid of the case? Someone must have ridden it hard and put it up bloody back in the day! Awesome find.
 

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In any event, like Kevin says, you made a good deal even if you part it out. I doubt the ABR is original. At least I know the '61 had no wires.

I also agree that the crack at the neck heel needs investigating. SGs from '60, 61' and early '62 are notorious for breaks at the heel. IMO, the reason is there just isn't enough wood there. Few of these models have not had issues there. But the cost of repair should be considered before investing more, IMO.

There's another possible scenario on the missing pups. Maybe the originals died, and the former owner couldn't find direct replacements that were affordable.
 

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In any event, like Kevin says, you made a good deal even if you part it out. I doubt the ABR is original. At least I know the '61 had no wires.

I also agree that the crack at the neck heel needs investigating. SGs from '60, 61' and early '62 are notorious for breaks at the heel. IMO, the reason is there just isn't enough wood there. Few of these models have not had issues there. But the cost of repair should be considered before investing more, IMO.

There's another possible scenario on the missing pups. Maybe the originals died, and the former owner couldn't find direct replacements that were affordable.

The neck/heel was looked at by 3 independent and unrelated luthiers, as was the head/neck repair.

The repairs were found to be solid with no movement by all 3 of them. I also asked all 3 if there is anything that could or should be done to strengthen them more. All 3 told me it doesn't need anything.

As for the abr-1, it is a from somewhere between 62-64. I do eventually plan to get an original wireless, just not right now.
 

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