NGD! 1959 ES 335 RI - CME etc

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How do you like the 330 compared with the 335's? Is the feedback from the fully hollow body a pain to deal with?

I've seriously been GAS'ing for a 330 after picking up my 335 so am curious how people that own both enjoy the 330. I've come to adore my 335 and thought of another one with P90s is incredible!
The 330 is a different animal to play. The P-90's mean instant vintage tone. I play mostly at low volume, through my Champ with fuzz as often as clean. I thought the fully hollow construction would mean more easily induced feedback. But that really hasn't been the case. Mine is very light. And it is built and finished in a way that none of my other guitars can touch.

While the 335 and 330 can sound a lot alike, the way they feel is just very different. Up the neck access is limited above the 16th fret. It definitely covers some unique territory for jazz, British Invasion pop, and raunchy late 50's, early 60's rock. I played it almost exclusively for a year before I got the 335, which I didn't put down for about another year.

The 335 covers much more territory, but if you want a real classic hollowbody in the shape of a 335, the 330 does it in spades.

This is where the 330 lives, for me



It will jazz with the best of them, too.

 

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Brian from MF is one of my favorite players. The price on this USA stamped 2018 makes me very glad I scored my Custom Shop 330 when I did.

You might keep an eye on CME to see if any of the Floor Models pop up. They had some screaming deals on the '61 RI's. That is how I scored this '59 335 months after they dried up.

 

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Nice score m! Glad to see it's working for ya in spite of the mishaps! :beer:
 

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You might keep an eye on CME to see if any of the Floor Models pop up. They had some screaming deals on the '61 RI's. That is how I scored this '59 335 months after they dried up.
Thanks for the rundown and comparison, until I started getting in to them recently I didn't know about the different neck join and limited access. It probably couldn't be the only guitar I'd have but GAS is a cruel mistress!

I certainly couldn't have afforded to get both at the same time but I am definitely spoiled now and am shocked at the prices 33x's actually cost compared with the CME prices. For the price of these things brand new it seems vintage is only marginally more expensive, so until I hit the lottery I'm holding off on Gibson going bust and CME stepping in to liquidate some assets :thumb:
 

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Thanks for the rundown and comparison, until I started getting in to them recently I didn't know about the different neck join and limited access. It probably couldn't be the only guitar I'd have but GAS is a cruel mistress!

I certainly couldn't have afforded to get both at the same time but I am definitely spoiled now and am shocked at the prices 33x's actually cost compared with the CME prices. For the price of these things brand new it seems vintage is only marginally more expensive, so until I hit the lottery I'm holding off on Gibson going bust and CME stepping in to liquidate some assets :thumb:

You are spot on with all of that.

I would suggest finding a 330 to play. See if you like it. An Epiphone Casino is essentially the same thing, so you could try one of those, too.

I had been looking for a deal on an Epi 1961 50th Anniversary Casino for some time. MF and GC had clearance sales on ES 330 current stock. And a 20% off Black Friday coupon. MF sold out, GC would give me the deal, but I had to pay 6% sales tax in MD.

So I found one on Sam Ash. Kudos to Sam Ash who honored the clearance price + the additional 20% off. :shock: Then they sent me the most beautiful guitar I own. I think I owe them a debt of gratitude. :p

We have a great used instrument store in MD, Atomic Music. They have racks of Casinos for $299-$399. They have made some really nice ones over the years. If you don't like a Casino, you probably won't like a 330.

Thank you for asking about the 330. I played it all evening last night; Down By the River and Cortez the Killer on the looper for a couple of hours. :D :yesway:
 

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One of the mild concerns I had when this guitar arrived is that the treble side of the bridge needed to be raised higher than the bass side, which sits very low and tidy with only a little room to go lower, but it is just the way you would hope/expect on a perfect set up. The tail piece also needs to be raised on the treble side to clear the back of the bridge. On an ABR-1 bridge guitar, that is fairly unusual, in my experience.

It took me a few months to finally figure out that the high E saddle is cut too deep, which is causing both parts of that situation.

It is a great relief to know that simply replacing the saddle will fix it and bring the guitar into 100% perfect spec.

The guitar continues to be very subtle and incredible to play. It does everything. It is a pleasure to play, has great tone, and great feel.

I put it aside a few weeks ago so I could revisit my other guitars. Now I have pulled the '59 out again and it is just as great as when I put it away.
 

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Looks beautiful md, I hope you’re happy!

Congrats, HNGD :jam: and play her in good health!
 

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Looks beautiful md, I hope you’re happy!

Congrats, HNGD :jam: and play her in good health!

Thank you! :dude:

I am very happy. The initial problems with the transaction caused a great deal of uncertainty for me. With time to get over that and time to address the niggling initial concerns, this guitar is flat out spectacular.

I do wish the deal had gone smoothly and that the guitar was 100% perfect out of the box. But I have no regrets about the once in a lifetime pricing I was able to capitalize on and no regrets that the guitar is subtle and sublime and perfect now, with very little effort to get there. Playing it is pure joy.
 

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I whipped out the '59 RI again this morning after several productive and enjoyable days with the NR Firebird. The Firebird is the shreddiest, easiest to play guitar I have; low action, medium, very playable frets. So, it is always a bit daunting going to another guitar after playing it.

No worries with the '59 RI though. Fook me, what a great guitar. And the MHS buckers and whatever the wiring harness is combine to make a better sounding guitar than the Firebird with 300K pots and pickups that are too hot for my preferences. The neck is great, and the damn thing smells so good :shock: !!! It is absolutely comfortable to play in every way.

What a joy it is, and what a lucky bastard I am, going from one awesome guitar to the next; strength to strength, pleasure to pleasure.

I just had to stop by and sing the '59 RI's praises once again. :jam:
 

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I just spent a few days with my ES330 which has been blowing me away with how great it has been playing and sounding.

Today, I am back on the 335 RI and it is just as magickal. Such a good guitar.

There are a couple of '58 RI's in the MLP classifieds at very, very reasonable prices. Somebody go buy them. You won't regret it.

I am flush with great guitars right now, so I am doing my best not to buy one of the 58's. Help me. :oops:
 

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One of the mild concerns I had when this guitar arrived is that the treble side of the bridge needed to be raised higher than the bass side, which sits very low and tidy with only a little room to go lower, but it is just the way you would hope/expect on a perfect set up. The tail piece also needs to be raised on the treble side to clear the back of the bridge. On an ABR-1 bridge guitar, that is fairly unusual, in my experience.

It took me a few months to finally figure out that the high E saddle is cut too deep, which is causing both parts of that situation.

It is a great relief to know that simply replacing the saddle will fix it and bring the guitar into 100% perfect spec.

The guitar continues to be very subtle and incredible to play. It does everything. It is a pleasure to play, has great tone, and great feel.

I put it aside a few weeks ago so I could revisit my other guitars. Now I have pulled the '59 out again and it is just as great as when I put it away.

I replaced the E, B, G saddles with a couple of Graphtech saddles that I had just sitting here. That did the trick. I will eventually put the correct saddles on but, for now, the bridge sits nice and low, the strings clear the back of the bridge with the tailpiece decked and, if anything, the guitar plays even better, now.
 

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That’s a beautiful guitar!
I snagged a ‘63 ES-335 during the first CME blowout. Had to have some warranty work done on it...had some high frets taken care of to get the action where it should be. It’s my number one now.
I swapped the MHS A3/2 to Throbak A5s and I dig them as much as my Throbaks, OX4s and ReWinds.
 

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That’s a beautiful guitar!
I snagged a ‘63 ES-335 during the first CME blowout. Had to have some warranty work done on it...had some high frets taken care of to get the action where it should be. It’s my number one now.
I swapped the MHS A3/2 to Throbak A5s and I dig them as much as my Throbaks, OX4s and ReWinds.

Thanks, Abbe! :thumb:

I did a clean up of the fretboard last week and after I couldn't put the guitar down. I had to force myself to give the others a chance after a week.

I like the very mild nature of the MHS buckers, but I can see where stronger magnets might wake them up. :jam:
 

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I’m in the same predicament! Haven’t even looked at my other guitars. Only pulled out my SG for comparison, which was by and far my favorite guitar until now.

Need to make up for lost time though. The Gibson was away for 6 weeks.
 

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That 59 is an absolute stunner! I would love to own one with a big neck. Someday...

--Jay
 

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That 59 is an absolute stunner! I would love to own one with a big neck. Someday...

--Jay
Thank you. I can't say enough good things about it.


There are a couple of '58 RI's in the mlp classifieds right now at very, very fair prices. :thumb:
 

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Kind of a moody photo of the '59 RI. I love this guitar. It keeps getting better and better.



BTW-I noticed that CME has some Memphis Kalamazoo '59 RI 335's at Floor Model pricing. Not as low as the 2017 blowout pricing, but what looked like pretty attractive pricing to me.
 


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