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This is normal at Guitar Center.the staff were perplexed.
This is normal at Guitar Center.the staff were perplexed.
Holy smokes, that's a sick deal!Thanks, how much of a discount can I reasonably expect?
I used their Presidents day 15% off coupon, the day I bought it. So it was discounted to $2125 when I bought it. Can I ask them to discount it further?
I could have easily ordered a brand new mint model online with the same discount that weekend. So I feel like they should offer something extra on top for this one. I’d love to keep it even if they give a small discount or something.
You realize that this happens everywhere, not just guitar shops, right? You won't win this suit, because you'll need to show that the guitar is in different condition than it would be sitting on the sales floor, being groped by 12 year olds playing Smoke on the Water and Enter Sandman.Every returned guitar should be listed as such and resold with a small discount. Then the buyer is getting what they paid for and what they are expecting. To sell me a guitar listed as “brand new” that could have been sitting in somebody’s house for a month or more getting played every day is a fraudulent business practice. That’s not a new guitar. Not saying I still wouldn’t buy it, but not for the same price as one that is actually new.
If I buy a new 60s Standard, play it for a two hours a day for 30 days, could I come to the classifieds here and with any integrity at all list it as brand new and expect to get a brand new price? Nah. It’s a lightly used guitar, most likely in excellent plus condition, and I‘m gonna lose 300-400 bucks. I don’t think we the consumer should end up paying for the vendor’s return policy. It’s a cost of doing business for them, not me.
You’re already very close to the limit they can give you. I don’t think they can give you more. Just enjoy your guitar.Thanks, how much of a discount can I reasonably expect?
I used their Presidents day 15% off coupon, the day I bought it. So it was discounted to $2125 when I bought it. Can I ask them to discount it further?
I could have easily ordered a brand new mint model online with the same discount that weekend. So I feel like they should offer something extra on top for this one. I’d love to keep it even if they give a small discount or something.
Thanks for taking a look, I feel much better having double checked with you guys. I really don’t mind a pickup being flipped, but a pickup change or messing with the wiring or some other tampering was a big concern. So I feel much better knowing all of that is intact and the way it was when it left the factory.The cavity looks good...i was worried for you that the guy had swapped the pups out and then swapped them back in, then it surely wouldn't be new if the factory wiring was altered. i wouldn't worry about it, you got a good deal and you definitely like the guitar so rock on. Life is too short to stress over a backwards pup.
Thank you, really glad and relieved to hear that.To me looks like absolutely the original solder joints. Very clean, actually. Good to see it from Gibson.
Yeah, i was shocked they let me use the coupon on something this pricey but they didn’t even question me when I showed it to them. ISo, i really don’t expect them to offer me much more of a discount if any.Holy smokes, that's a sick deal!
Nah, I wouldn't bother them. They declared bankruptcy last year... I'm not saying you should have mercy on big corporations, but you wouldn't be helping them keeping this awesome selection, pricing and return policy.
Yeah, at this point I got close to their used Les Paul price. So I prob won’t get much more off, which I’m okay with.You’re already very close to the limit they can give you. I don’t think they can give you more. Just enjoy your guitar.
The tech there sounds a bit inexperienced, as others have mentioned. Once you’ve done it a couple of times, you get a hang of dealing with those pesky springs and shouldn’t look hard at all. Either that or could also be some stage fright going on. You do something ten thousand times very smoothly and ninja like, on the 10,001st time you’re all thumbs just because someone is looking, kind of thing.
Just be careful to not over analyzing or have an inherent bias against the one you currently have because of its history. I almost made that mistake myself, but luckily I chose wisely.Yeah, at this point I got close to their used Les Paul price. So I prob won’t get much more off, which I’m okay with.
I’m just happy to know the pickups and wiring are all original and mot tampered. That’s really what I was concerned about, if someone had swapped pickups or tampered with the wiring id want a refund. But I feel better having gone over photos with everyone here.
They might offer a direct exchange for another standard 60’s. If they do, I’ll try a few out to see if I like any of them as much as I like this one. But if this is still the best playing guitar, I’ll keep this and not look back.
You should read the OP before responding…What makes everyone so sure it did not leave Gibson like that? I mean, this is Gibson we are talking about. The Rhythm/Treble switch on my 2010 Les Paul purchased new from a GC store was reversed (so 'up' was bridge pup, and 'down' was neck pup). Even though it was purchased from a GC store, the thought that it was anything but Gibson never even crossed my mind. I know that is different than what is being discussed here, but there are parallels ...
I used to work at a consumer audio electronics company I know you all have heard of. I was involved with engineering & manufacturing of radios, home theaters, & car stereos. What concerns me is the lack of the "Gibson-USA" stamp in the metal. Stickers are easy to produce and fake, but we used to do things like metal stamps or stickers of a Hologram nature to make sure that it was our gear for warranty purposes. I would look at the solder joint of the PU wire to the POTs in the guitar to see if they still look factory fresh, a 1 time only factory solder joint would look real clean. The PU in backwards is a huge warning flag as that tells us somebody tampered who did not know what they were doing. I'd ask for a refund/replacement and make sure the PUs look right on the next one.Stickers match, that’s good. The Gibson USA stamp isn’t there, but I guess that can vary?
I'd be pissed to have been sold as "new" a guitar obviously tampered with that the vendor *admitted* had been bought and returned. That's some real bullshit, right there.No I appreciate you bringing it up. I’m not bothered by the flip but I want to make sure everything is original and as it should be.
Yeah, I got is new. I got a small discount for their Preidents Day sale but it was sold as brand new.
Like I said, if those are the original pickups I won’t return it. But in my other thread someone said it might have been replaced with fakes and I just want to be sure that’s not the case here.
That’s why I’m asking here. If the pickups seem fine, I’m most likely keeping it. I really don’t care if someone flipped it but since the whole story behind it is odd, I want to make sure I’m getting the original pickups and nothing else major is wrong.
My question would be... Why the PAF sticker for a 61 reissue? Gibson had received the patent number by then and was using that sticker... I saw the same sticker on the new SG pick ups on reverb... Does anyone know why the PAF sticker is being used on a 61 reissue?Hi guys! So a few of you might know I recently got a new Les Paul standard 60’s from Guitar Center. It’s an awesome guitar, but after bringing it home I found out the bridge pickup was put in backwards, as seen here.
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At first I assumed this was a Gibson QC issue or factory mistake but I got the suggestion the check baby picture and turns out the pickup was in the correct position from the factory.
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I just got back from the Gutiar center and they confirmed the guitar was bought and returned once before to a store in a different state, they don’t know how it got to my store and is a bit fishy. We still don’t know who flipped it or why.
My biggest concern is if someone took out the original pickups to sell and put in some fakes.
They were nice enough to open up the guitar for me at the store to confirm the pickups are still original and we took photos of the undersides.
They seem legit. But what do you think? Do these look like the original 61R/T pickups? The stickers seem to match up but it’s still odd. Should I just return it and take the refund? I can order another standard 60’s but this one looks and plays great, so if pickups look to be original and everything seems okay, I would just keep this one. But the whole story is odd, even the staff were perplexed. They said it’s up to me if I want to exchange or return.
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