Never buy Guyker locking tuners

[DrBGood]

Some of them have a 90° dead zone.

 

[CB91710]

I avoid anything from Guyker, Musiclily, or any of the other generic names typically found on Amazon or Ebay

 

[smk506]

I avoid anything from Guyker, Musiclily, or any of the other generic names typically found on Amazon or Ebay

For me it depends on the item and my expectations. I got some fender amp knobs from one of those outfits, some black strat knobs from another, some strap locks and locking tuners, a few pickguards…

Most of the plastics have been fine, especially considering I wasn’t looking for vintage replica stuff but simply needed functional stuff. Most of the cheap hardware has sat unused.

 

[grady31]

Are you calling the slower ratio a deadspot ? I think those are 21 or 22:1 ratio . You turn the tuning key , but the peg doesn't move like it does on the 14:1 , 16:1 , 18: 1 ratio tners people are used to . . Hard to distinguish what you were referring to in such a short clip .

 

[CB91710]

Are you calling the slower ratio a deadspot ? I think those are 21 or 22:1 ratio . You turn the tuning key , but the peg doesn't move like it does on the 14:1 , 16:1 , 18: 1 ratio tners people are used to . . Hard to distinguish what you were referring to in such a short clip .

The peg should always move immediately and firmly with movement of the key.
It may not move as quickly due to the ratio, but there should be very little lash from the gears, certainly not 90 degrees of movement of the key as shown.

 

[Juan Tumani]

I bought 3 sets of them for various Strats.

While admittedly I sold those guitars (as I have a tendency to buy and sell many guitars) and didn't have the tuners for a long period of time I saw no red flags at any time.

 

[ARandall]

The vid is way too short to tell what is going on. I mean the most mechanically sound tuners on the planet made to aerospace or F1 tolerances could do exactly the same thing if the nut has been poorly cut.

 

[revtime]

I will admit the guykers are a mixed bag. One set the locking pin broke on one of the tuners.
However. The guyker professianal series are much better and only cost about 40 bux.
I have a set on my epi korina V in gold. The "good" sets cost 140 bux. I just refuse to give 150 bux for gold kluson vintage locking tuners when the guyker professionals are good enough.
And musiclilly locking tuners are great in my opinion. NEVER had an issue with those.

 

[Dolebludger]

I don’t know about this dead spot. I have guitars with locking tuners (PRS and Schaller) and guitars with regular tuners. If I don’t tune to A = 440 I will have dead spots on all my tuners and guitars. Since I don’t have perfect pitch, I can’t identify the pitch to which the guitar in the vid was tuned through. But yeah, when I buy upgrade parts, I too buy good ones.

 

[LtDave32]

The peg should always move immediately and firmly with movement of the key.
It may not move as quickly due to the ratio, but there should be very little lash from the gears, certainly not 90 degrees of movement of the key as shown.

This is true. Good tuners have little gear lash, no slop.

If you buy name tuners, and you can turn the button, and the shaft doesn't turn in-step with the button, return thm for ones that do.

 

[Dolebludger]

Well, Lt Dave32, I will go with your opinion. I did not notice the lash in those tuners. My ears and eyes are getting a bit old! If you say they are no good, they are no good! Never bought them, never will. You are a luthier, and I am not and never will be one. Thanks for your expert advice!

 

[LtDave32]

Well, Lt Dave32, I will go with your opinion. I did not notice the lash in those tuners. My ears and eyes are getting a bit old! If you say they are no good, they are no good! Never bought them, never will. You are a luthier, and I am not and never will be one. Thanks for your expert advice!

I'm saying brand new, name brand tuners should not have very much slop or lash. There hasn't been any load on them yet, to speak of.

Tuners a few months old with the appropriate break-iin, they should not have a bothersome lash either.

Of course, none of this means much if your nut is tight and grabbing the string, so make sure thst is not factorng in.

But regardless of the nut, the button needs to turn in-step with the post.

 

[CB91710]

Well, Lt Dave32, I will go with your opinion. I did not notice the lash in those tuners. My ears and eyes are getting a bit old! If you say they are no good, they are no good! Never bought them, never will. You are a luthier, and I am not and never will be one. Thanks for your expert advice!

He turned the key 90 degrees and there was no visible movement to the string on the post, and the pitch didn't change.

So either that tuner has horrible lash, or DrBGood is messing with us and plucked a different string (but the pitch was a slightly sharp Eb.)

 

[Dolebludger]

No, i don’t think DrBGood is messing with us. I think it is just my old age messing with me. If LtDav32 says the tuners a bd, they are bad.

 

[CB91710]

No, i don’t think DrBGood is messing with us. I think it is just my old age messing with me. If LtDav32 says the tuners a bd, they are bad.

Ya... I was kidding about that part.
At first I thought "wait a minnit" but I think it's the EQ that makes it sound like a lower pitch. I honestly thought it might have been a B briefly, but I actually checked it with my Peterson app on the phone.
It was bouncing back and forth between D# and E... the screenshot caught it dead-on.

 

[Dolebludger]

Well, yeah, my perfect pitch is gone, if I ever had it. If LtDave32 says the tuners are shit, they are shit!

 

[AJK1]

Never buy locking tuners, period