"May I quote you"I've been playing guitar for 10 years, and ever since playing an ex-girlfriend's '72 Deluxe I've been determined to get a Les Paul. I've spent a lot of time learning as much as possible about the differences in years and models in order to make an informed first purchase. I don't really care about aesthetics beyond that I want the pick guard on it and I really like sunburst (That means almost no LP Customs.) I just want really good tone for the money.
I know that I definitely want a solid body, with no weight relief or chambering. I just can't decide what to go with. I'm leaning towards finding an early Norlin, like 1970-1973 Deluxe, and just swapping the minis for P90s, or tracking down a '74 Standard. I figure these are good bets because I don't really care for the maple neck introduced after that.
Now, my only problem with committing to this decision is the pancake body. I played that '72 extensively, and I loved it to death. I can say that the tone was amazing. But I've honestly not spent as much time (if any) on any other Les Paul, so I don't know how that changes the tonality of the instrument. I'm looking for some feedback here.
Barring those options, I think a safe bet might be the 2009 '59 reissue (not VOS, I don't want fake aging.) Solid body, great hardware, I just don't like being grouped up with those guys who try to get as close to a '59 as possible and do things like get ridiculously expensive aftermarket 'vintage' hardware in order to be accurate and take razors/chemicals to their guitars to make them look aged. (I also don't like the pricetag on those R9s!)
I'm leaning towards trying to find a 1970-1974, but I want to learn more about how the pancake body can affect tone. Opinions or advice?
Seriously, that was like 4 hours. We only beat 2 campaigns!
Still waiting on a reply from the guy.
1973 Gibson Les Paul Deluxe
There's the post. What do you guys think I should try to pay for that, based on the limited photos so far? It looks in pretty decent condition, but I haven't seen any detailed photos yet. Internet says ~$2500, I think I might try getting it lower than that maybe?
Back on track:
I'm getting the feeling that the people who like the reissues like them because they themselves are collectors, or they just like having the best possible gear (specs wise) Not necessarily because they play them all the time and enjoy the tone compared to other LPs.
Not true at all. Myself and many gig our Historics regularly, and play the shit out of them. They are BETTER GUITARS. (This includes both feel and tone IMO) I'm no "collector" - I play everything I own, to include my vintage stuff.
From poking around, it seems like the Norlin guys are hardcore about how warm their pancakes are, much to the chagrin of the non Norlin owners who make comments like "at what point does a pancake body become a plywood body?" It really seems like one of those situations where either you get it, or you don't. Having fallen in love with that '72, and really appreciating the warm heavy sound (I play stuff like Kyuss and Acid King) I guess I just get it.
VERY few people here have anything bad to say about Norlins. Many of us who own Norlins and Historics prefer our Norlins. (And, "actually play them" as well).
Now, someone mentioned a Tobacco Burst Custom? I mentioned that I liked Sunburst, but I really meant like the Cherry Sunburst or Light Sunburst colors, Tobacco is really too brown for me. I also prefer the white hardware over the black hardware for the same lame eye pleasing reasons. But hey, if I'm going to make an investment in a guitar, I might as well enjoy everything about it, including the looks.