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Help with identifying this Aria pro ii, i cant find any other picture with the same headstock pattern, is it china made?
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Definitely made after Matsumoku closed, so post 1987 and most likely korean made.
Can't really help more than that since the korean models never interested me, but should be making a search easier.
 

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I am not sure if I am posting in the right place, but I picked up a Matsumoko Les Paul the other day and I am trying to figure out what brand/year. I think it is 1975 based on neckplate on back.


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Triumph Lead Player. Anyone have any info on it?
 

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I am not sure if I am posting in the right place, but I picked up a Matsumoko Les Paul the other day and I am trying to figure out what brand/year. I think it is 1975 based on neckplate on back.


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I can't read your neck plate to help you with the year, but you have Maxon pickups. And the date code on the one shown is:

Production line 2
Year 5 for 1975
Month 7 for July
Day 27

So your pickups are from July 27, 1975. Sounds like you have a 1975 model there and are reading your neck plate correctly.
 

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I can't read your neck plate to help you with the year, but you have Maxon pickups. And the date code on the one shown is:

Production line 2
Year 5 for 1975
Month 7 for July
Day 27

So your pickups are from July 27, 1975. Sounds like you have a 1975 model there and are reading your neck plate correctly.
Neck Plate says H751812
 

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I can't read your neck plate to help you with the year, but you have Maxon pickups. And the date code on the one shown is:

Production line 2
Year 5 for 1975
Month 7 for July
Day 27

So your pickups are from July 27, 1975. Sounds like you have a 1975 model there and are reading your neck plate correctly.
Thank you!
Seems safe to say then that it's a 1975.
Agreed. Just wondering if there is any way to tell if this is an Aria, Ibanez, etc.
 

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Thank you!

Agreed. Just wondering if there is any way to tell if this is an Aria, Ibanez, etc.
I bought a Fresher that no longer had visible logos. I just knew what it was by it's other features. Then once it got here and I was leveling the frets I realized I could see the old silk screen where it imprinted into the black paint and clearcoat on the headstock when looking at it under my strong shop light and from an angle. I could read the old Fresher logo and the Leo Nine (or Leo Line?) from the imprints.

Try looking at it under a strong, bright light and from different angles and see if anything is there to read?
 

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I bought a Fresher that no longer had visible logos. I just knew what it was by it's other features. Then once it got here and I was leveling the frets I realized I could see the old silk screen where it imprinted into the black paint and clearcoat on the headstock when looking at it under my strong shop light and from an angle. I could read the old Fresher logo and the Leo Nine (or Leo Line?) from the imprints.

Try looking at it under a strong, bright light and from different angles and see if anything is there to read?
I tried from a few angles, nothing so far. I'll update if I find anything. Thanks again.
 

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Some out there have no logo at all. They are rare but some did escape the factory... So might be it never had a logo.
 

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Aria was A Korean guitar company-They made all sorts of guitars.
Wrong. They are (because they still exist) a Japanese company.
Their current production is in Korea among other places (I think). They did have production in Japan as well until the Matsumoku factory closed(1987). Some high-end models were still produced in Japan (and some might still be, I only care for the 70-80s period, so don't know much about the new guitars).
 

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Wrong. They are (because they still exist) a Japanese company.
Their current production is in Korea among other places (I think). They did have production in Japan as well until the Matsumoku factory closed(1987). Some high-end models were still produced in Japan (and some might still be, I only care for the 70-80s period, so don't know much about the new guitars).
Cool heard they went out of business glad they are still around.
 

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As far as i know the did went out of business many years ago. But good they made it tru the hard time than.
 

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Does this look familiar to anyone? Well informed friend guessed Matsumoku but he just glanced at the pics real quick. I’m wondering if maybe it’s Korean made tho? Cort factory maybe? It did come in a Vantage case, not sure if the case is original to it.

I don’t recall seeing these pots before. Any info on them or know the brand?
No makers mark in the neck pocket or the pup cavities.

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Does not look like Matsumoku to me, electronics look wrong and I don't think they made any plywood guitars but I could very well be wrong on the latter part.
The fact that it is a plywood body indicates Korea to me.
 

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Uncle Mat was quite good at neck thru too.....not plywood....
 

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Uncle Mat was quite good at neck thru too.....not plywood....
You can see the plywood layers in the cavity shots. It's too much color variation for it to be routing marks.
 
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