My poor experience with Callaham Vintage Guitars/Bridges

ryanstewartguitar

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Hello!

I just had an unfortunate dealing with Bill Callaham of Callaham Vintage Guitar Parts and I’m feeling the need to make known how I was treated. If you’re not familiar with the company, they essentially make extremely expensive guitar hardware out of stainless steel. I’ve been interested in trying one myself so I finally bit the bullet and shelled out $150 for their ABR-1 Tune-o-Matic Bridge.

Well, to keep it short, I felt a slight improvement in my guitar (a 1974 Gibson ES-175) after I got the bridge installed by my tech, compared to the original 1974 Gibson TOM. It was not life-changing as his website describes, but I did enjoy the bridge and was happy with purchasing it, with one huge exception – the thing rattled like an old pickup truck on a dirt road. Seriously, compared to all the other TOM’s that I own, this thing was noisy. So, naturally, I emailed the company and asked if he knew of anything I could do to fix the rattle issue. Here’s my original email, copy and pasted right from the thread:

"Hi there!

I was hoping you could help me fix an issue I'm having with your ABR-1 Tune-o-Matic bridge. I purchased one of these for my 1974 Gibson ES-175 that previously had a wooden bridge on it. While I enjoy the tone and convenience of your TOM bridge, I'm having one serious problem and that it is rattling quite a bit.

I've had it for about 2 months now, and the problem keeps coming back every time I fix it. I've noticed that the screws on the saddles of this bridge are quite looser than the ones on my other guitars (Gibson and Tonepros). If I screw it a bit further in/out I can usually find a point where the rattling ceases (at the expense of intonation), but within a week it always comes back! Very frustrating, makes the bridge pretty useless! For the record, I'm talking about pretty loud, noticeable rattling.

I did some googling and found this to be a fairly common problem with your bridges, but I can't seem to find any solutions. So I was wondering, is this a normal/expected issue with your bridge? If not, do you think I may have a defective bridge? Are there any tricks to fixing this issue permanently? And finally, what is the warranty/return policy on this item?

I just acquired a new ES-335 that I'm looking to upgrade some of the hardware on, and I'd like to get the Callaham Bridge/Tailpiece combo, if I can feel confident that it won't have rattle issues.

Thank you for your time and help!
- Ryan Stewart
Ryan Stewart"

I will say, he certainly responds quickly, which is appreciated, but it ended up with him, A) insulting my guitar tech, who I absolutely love, and B) asking me to send the bridge back into him so that he could swap the saddles. My initial thought was, how in the world would that stop the rattling? But I paid for shipping both ways (about $15) and did it anyway.

Upon receiving the bridge back, I put it on the 175 and was upset to find that the rattle was…worse. I mean, I’m not talking about a small buzz when you hit a chord hard, I mean rattle that’s literally as loud as the note that’s being played. I could adjust the saddles and find certain places where the rattle was minimized, but that was at the expense of intonation, and I’ll take a rattling guitar any day over an out-of-tune guitar. However, since I paid about 6x the cost of an average bridge for this fancy schmancy piece, I sent him another email, asking if he could help me out any more.

His response, and note that I’ve been talking to Bill Callaham himself the entire time, ended with this:

“I'm being patient with you because I have a son your age. But my patience can wear thin.”

Essentially, shut up and stop bugging me.

So here’s my beef. When you buy a product, you pay for the materials, the workmanship, a company’s profit, and basic CUSTOMER SERVICE. I understand he doesn’t sell products that can be installed by any random guy with a guitar, but apparently two email threads, which I’m sure totaled up to under 10 minutes on his part was “wearing his patience thin” on a customer who spent $150 on his little piece of metal. I was polite and respectful in my email, and don’t get me wrong, I’m aware that I don’t know near the amount about guitar hardware as this guy does. That’s why I didn’t say, “your bridge is broken and I want my money back”, but instead, I asked, “do you think I may have a defective bridge? Are there any tricks to fixing this issue permanently?”.

And beef #2: “I'm being patient with you because I have a son your age.” Seriously, Bill? I’m 20, not 14. I’m a professional guitarist in Los Angeles attending USC as a Studio Guitar major = I’m your future market, and everyone I interact with on a daily basis are your most likely customers. It baffles me from a business perspective why someone would ever find it a good idea to patronize and essentially shoo away a paying customer, especially one who could be a lifelong customer, and refer so many others to his products. But, that’s what he said…and I’m just feeling the need to share it.

I just got a new ES-335, and it’s going to be enjoying a nice TonePros Bridge and Tailpiece here real soon. Callaham Guitars has certainly lost my business forever. I can tell you that in my experiences their customer service is as poor and unprofessional as their products. I’m not saying that Bill Callaham is a bad guy, and I’m not saying he runs a bad company - I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that I caught him on a bad day, and that he wouldn’t usually treat a customer like that. However, that was my experience, and I wish I could have it all back.
 

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Maybe his products do deserve twice the money of TonePros and Faber, which I seriously doubt, but at that level being rude is just unacceptable.

In my field, (PR/Marketing/Advertising), I can tell you that there is no such thing as a bad day... Maybe there is to me but NEVER towards the customer! If you're feeling like crap, then don't respond to any emails, waiting an hour or a day is much better than being rude to the customer. Especially when someone is paying you a LOT more money than he would pay your other two "competitors" the LEAST you can do is be polite!!!

He will get what he deserves, he will lose money through the customers that will not buy from him based on YOUR bad experience... If I were you I'd send it back and ask for my money. There is a certain limit to how much crap you can take when spending your money on something!
 

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I didn't really get any negativity from your first email but maybe he took some offence with the "makes the bridge pretty useless" and "found this to be a fairly common problem with your bridges" parts.

I would say either sell it or fix it. Have you tried intonating it and then dropping some nail polish remover on it? I know it's strong enough to keep saddles from popping out. It may work.

I won't deal with Callaham, either, because they charge $40 shipping to Canada. A complete rip off, if you ask me.
 

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I didn't really get any negativity from your first email but maybe he took some offence with the "makes the bridge pretty useless" and "found this to be a fairly common problem with your bridges" parts.

I would say either sell it or fix it. Have you tried intonating it and then dropping some nail polish remover on it? I know it's strong enough to keep saddles from popping out. It may work.

I won't deal with Callaham, either, because they charge $40 shipping to Canada. A complete rip off, if you ask me.

$40?? Is he serious? It wouldn't cost $40 if sent you a bridge from Greece to Canada...
 

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I can tell you from my experience that The Faber ABR has very tight saddles . The saddles are flat bottom and sit in a tight frame , no rattle whatsoever . I like the callaham parts I've purchased though , if I had a complaint it's the outdated website / ordering process they have :wave:
 

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I like the callaham parts I've purchased though , if I had a complaint it's the outdated website / ordering process they have :wave:

Yeah, please FAX your order and credit card info (no PayPal). Really? I haven't owned a FAX machine in like a decade. So, I called in and the woman taking the order was barely alive and didn't even thank me for the business (over $200). In fact, when I said "thank you" after placing the order, she just mumbled "uh-huh" and hung up. I won't be back.

Bridges I've had good luck with: TonePros, Pigtail, Gibson Historic no-wire.
 

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I won't deal with Callaham, either, because they charge $40 shipping to Canada. A complete rip off, if you ask me.

$40? Wow sounds like he has a bridge to sell you :laugh2:
 

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Any chance you could post your second email? Maybe there's something there that set him off.
 

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I don't trust a disgruntled customer to tell the full story for all we know you could have pumped him with 10 emails a day for 2 weeks solid.
your 1st post is to trash talk a well respected manufactuer who makes quality parts?

I did some googling and found this to be a fairly common problem with your bridges, but I can't seem to find any solutions.

i couldn't tell you to go **** yourself fast enough if you spewed that shit to me.
Be precise.Show me a direct similar problem to yours & a possible solution not just a blanket statement.

sure i think the shits overpriced & catering to the uber boutique wanker & not the everyday working player but hey thats just me.
 

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Trying to stop the rattling by finding "quiet" saddle positions is ridiculous.

I'm always tweaking my bridges to make sure intonation is as close to perfect as I can get it.

A lot of people have positive things to say about their Callaham ABRs, but your experience makes me wonder how many other folks there are with the rattle issue.
 

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I suspect the source of the rattle may be quite different to where both you and Callaham have tried to fix it...otherwise it wouldn't be worse

Quite frankly, whatever business you do with him should be kept between the two of you.

Joining a forum simply to badmouth someone (telling tales) is a somewhat juvenile way of handling a problem.
 
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Hello!

I just had an unfortunate dealing with Bill Callaham of Callaham Vintage Guitar Parts and I’m feeling the need to make known how I was treated. If you’re not familiar with the company, they essentially make extremely expensive guitar hardware out of stainless steel. I’ve been interested in trying one myself so I finally bit the bullet and shelled out $150 for their ABR-1 Tune-o-Matic Bridge.

Well, to keep it short, I felt a slight improvement in my guitar (a 1974 Gibson ES-175) after I got the bridge installed by my tech, compared to the original 1974 Gibson TOM. It was not life-changing as his website describes, but I did enjoy the bridge and was happy with purchasing it, with one huge exception – the thing rattled like an old pickup truck on a dirt road. Seriously, compared to all the other TOM’s that I own, this thing was noisy. So, naturally, I emailed the company and asked if he knew of anything I could do to fix the rattle issue. Here’s my original email, copy and pasted right from the thread:

"Hi there!

I was hoping you could help me fix an issue I'm having with your ABR-1 Tune-o-Matic bridge. I purchased one of these for my 1974 Gibson ES-175 that previously had a wooden bridge on it. While I enjoy the tone and convenience of your TOM bridge, I'm having one serious problem and that it is rattling quite a bit.

I've had it for about 2 months now, and the problem keeps coming back every time I fix it. I've noticed that the screws on the saddles of this bridge are quite looser than the ones on my other guitars (Gibson and Tonepros). If I screw it a bit further in/out I can usually find a point where the rattling ceases (at the expense of intonation), but within a week it always comes back! Very frustrating, makes the bridge pretty useless! For the record, I'm talking about pretty loud, noticeable rattling.

I did some googling and found this to be a fairly common problem with your bridges, but I can't seem to find any solutions. So I was wondering, is this a normal/expected issue with your bridge? If not, do you think I may have a defective bridge? Are there any tricks to fixing this issue permanently? And finally, what is the warranty/return policy on this item?

I just acquired a new ES-335 that I'm looking to upgrade some of the hardware on, and I'd like to get the Callaham Bridge/Tailpiece combo, if I can feel confident that it won't have rattle issues.

Thank you for your time and help!
- Ryan Stewart
Ryan Stewart"

I will say, he certainly responds quickly, which is appreciated, but it ended up with him, A) insulting my guitar tech, who I absolutely love, and B) asking me to send the bridge back into him so that he could swap the saddles. My initial thought was, how in the world would that stop the rattling? But I paid for shipping both ways (about $15) and did it anyway.

Upon receiving the bridge back, I put it on the 175 and was upset to find that the rattle was…worse. I mean, I’m not talking about a small buzz when you hit a chord hard, I mean rattle that’s literally as loud as the note that’s being played. I could adjust the saddles and find certain places where the rattle was minimized, but that was at the expense of intonation, and I’ll take a rattling guitar any day over an out-of-tune guitar. However, since I paid about 6x the cost of an average bridge for this fancy schmancy piece, I sent him another email, asking if he could help me out any more.

His response, and note that I’ve been talking to Bill Callaham himself the entire time, ended with this:

“I'm being patient with you because I have a son your age. But my patience can wear thin.”

Essentially, shut up and stop bugging me.

So here’s my beef. When you buy a product, you pay for the materials, the workmanship, a company’s profit, and basic CUSTOMER SERVICE. I understand he doesn’t sell products that can be installed by any random guy with a guitar, but apparently two email threads, which I’m sure totaled up to under 10 minutes on his part was “wearing his patience thin” on a customer who spent $150 on his little piece of metal. I was polite and respectful in my email, and don’t get me wrong, I’m aware that I don’t know near the amount about guitar hardware as this guy does. That’s why I didn’t say, “your bridge is broken and I want my money back”, but instead, I asked, “do you think I may have a defective bridge? Are there any tricks to fixing this issue permanently?”.

And beef #2: “I'm being patient with you because I have a son your age.” Seriously, Bill? I’m 20, not 14. I’m a professional guitarist in Los Angeles attending USC as a Studio Guitar major = I’m your future market, and everyone I interact with on a daily basis are your most likely customers. It baffles me from a business perspective why someone would ever find it a good idea to patronize and essentially shoo away a paying customer, especially one who could be a lifelong customer, and refer so many others to his products. But, that’s what he said…and I’m just feeling the need to share it.

I just got a new ES-335, and it’s going to be enjoying a nice TonePros Bridge and Tailpiece here real soon. Callaham Guitars has certainly lost my business forever. I can tell you that in my experiences their customer service is as poor and unprofessional as their products. I’m not saying that Bill Callaham is a bad guy, and I’m not saying he runs a bad company - I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that I caught him on a bad day, and that he wouldn’t usually treat a customer like that. However, that was my experience, and I wish I could have it all back.

I had a similar issue with the company who makes Grover Tuners a long time ago. I sent them everything so they could inspect the tuners as they seemed to bind when turning. They sent them back saying they could not find anything wrong, but kept my cool thick vintage washers. Someone at the company liked them real well and stole them. They gave me the current thin kind and was very nasty about it to me. I cannot believe those guys. Unprofessional to say the least.
 

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It's an inferior bridge, period. There are other manufacturers that produce a finer, more precision unit.

Personally, when I build a guitar for a customer, I take a great deal of pride in each and every detail. It's called OWNERSHIP.....look it up. If a component fails to make the grade, I contact the vendor/manufacturer first, and if that doesn't pan out the VERY FIRST TIME, the piece goes in the garbage, and I refuse to deal with them EVER again. I have a list of well-known manufacturers and vendors that will never get my business again. I will never pass junk on to MY customers. Along with quality products, in this day and age, customer service is EVERYTHING. If you treat your customers right, you'll never have to do damage control, here on a forum or anywhere else.

TonePros, Jason Schroeder, Pigtail.....Products without compromise. And no, I'm not a paid spokesperson.

Mike F.
 

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I have bought from him a few times, mostly for strat stuff. Always remember it being a pain in the as because i had to stand in line at the post office because he only takes money orders. The result was a good product but not a negligible upgrade to vintage reissue parts. I would probably not order from him again unless things were a bit cheaper and i could order online. The website raves about the change in tone when going with his saddles over the vintage reissue, i noticed no difference and his saddles are not stamped. I prefer the fender saddles.
 

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I've held off on upgrading my Nashville bridge, I've considered Callaham but probably won't. Especially if the guys a dick. I've always thought his stuff was overrated though. I never bought any of their products but they have come on a few Telecasters I've bought second hand I thought "meh" my stock Teles sound better. I eventually replaced the Callaham saddles and bridges on those guitars back to the stock parts.
 

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From the information you've given I would agree that his attitude to you was poor. And I would suggest that it is appropriate to post this kind of information here. That is part of the point of internet forums; to share information. The power of the internet (although open to abuse) is to share good and bad experiences which hopefully leads to improvements in products and customer care.
I'd probably ask for my money back with a calm, reasoned explanation.
 

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Unless you post all the emails, we can't make a judgement. Even with the emails, we can't judge because we don't know if you're lying or not. But thanks for the heads up.
 

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