thanks everyone....the neck on this is midway between a baseball bat 58 and 59...feels great..I did have a 2012 R8 and the neck was just too chunky.....couldn't get on with it....it was a beautiful guitar...an aged bourbon burst...but couldn't get over the neck...so traded it for this one...it has been the only guitar I've played since I had it...I also have a 2004 classic with joe bonamassa SD pick ups and a custom shop tele...both great guitars...but not had a look in since I got this..!!!