My guitar fell of the wall..

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Lucky escape,
Damn straight on the racks.
The tree stands are asking for trouble.

I have two locking a-frame stands that I use now and then.
They are heavy and well-built, highly resistant to falling over, but I bought them 30 years ago.
There’s nothing on the market like that anymore.
Damn straight on the racks.
The tree stands are asking for trouble.

I have two locking a-frame stands that I use now and then.
They are heavy and well-built, highly resistant to falling over, but I bought them 30 years ago.
There’s nothing on the market like that anymore.
Yeah I have two I bought about 20 years ago, best A frame I ever had, cannot find anything to match it.
 

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Damn straight on the racks.
The tree stands are asking for trouble.

I have two locking a-frame stands that I use now and then.
They are heavy and well-built, highly resistant to falling over, but I bought them 30 years ago.
There’s nothing on the market like that anymore.
I once played a show at a fairly small venue. Me being me, I still brought 4 guitars. One on a single stand and the other 3 on the tree.

Once you remove a guitar from the tree the over all center of gravity changes and it becomes unstable so with the slightest bump from the singer trying to talk to the drummer the remaining 2 in the tree fell into guitar on the single stand putting a nice big dent in the Gold Top of my new to me 56 reissue Epiphone Les Paul. Of course the two Fenders showed no signs of an incident.
 

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I use extra long outdoor rated 3" Torx screws instead of what comes with the wall mounts. I have used the Hercules locking wall mounts for as long as I can remember. Still have at least 10+ mounted in various places, never had a single issue. I also ONLY mount them DIRECTLY to studs.

I have seen them fall out of board that were fixed to studs. Best to just use the stud directly in my experience. If I couldn't mount to a stud directly, it did not go on the wall.
 

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I use extra long outdoor rated 3" Torx screws instead … I also ONLY mount them DIRECTLY to studs.

If I couldn't mount to a stud directly, it did not go on the wall.
I was doing the exact same thing.
And going to those extra lengths is definitely the smart thing to do.

The drywall anchor bullshit?
Stupid.

And done right, the String Swing brand that I used was plenty secure. Short of an earthquake, I was not worried about the hanger coming of the wall.

But no matter how well done, you are still defying gravity.
You guys probably handle your guitars as carefully as I do mine, but I just felt it was a matter of beating the odds.

I saw too many instances where guitars fell when they shouldn’t have.

I’m not saying I’m right, and everyone should listen to me.
Just offering my experiences like everyone else.
But I can open the doors on that cabinet with the LED rope light casting a wonderful glow upon the guitars, and in my head I hear the Hallelujah Chorus playing every time.

Even if I had an earthquake (in Texas?) I know that the worst that’s going to happen is one of them will bump into another.

Also, cuts way down on the dust.
 
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I don’t believe I have ever removed the TP studs from my LP (or any other guitar with similar TP) mounting. But I believe the studs are screwed into a metal sleeve set into the body. So the OP’s accident either drove the sleeve further into the body, or else stripped the threads in the sleeve or stud or both. In either event, repair should be a minor fob for a good luthier. However, I’m no fan of high-set TPS or top wrapping and my TP is decked. So my advice is to deck the bass side of the TP. Try it. You may like it.
 

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If you have to go through drywall and can't drill into a stud, try these:

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I've used these to hang big TV's on the wall. That said, if your drywall gets wet or rots, nothing will save it from ripping out.
 

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If any of you (and there are a lot of you) stand/wall guys ever wanted to know why Gibson and the other major manufactures tell you to keep them in their cases when not playing... this is (among other reasons) why.
 

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Another reason to case a guitar when not in use is to prevent finish fading. This could happen even on a poly finished guitar, and more so on a lacquer finish. And then there is the old “my dog ate my guitar” thing!
 

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I don’t believe I have ever removed the TP studs from my LP (or any other guitar with similar TP) mounting. But I believe the studs are screwed into a metal sleeve set into the body. So the OP’s accident either drove the sleeve further into the body, or else stripped the threads in the sleeve or stud or both. In either event, repair should be a minor fob for a good luthier. However, I’m no fan of high-set TPS or top wrapping and my TP is decked. So my advice is to deck the bass side of the TP. Try it. You may like it.
Yes. The sleeve/bushing will have been pushed farther into the hole. Though possible, It's not likely that it's damaged or loose but attempting to return it to the original height could be the thing that makes it damaged or loose.

I pulled a set of those bushings this weekend and they were very very tightly pressed in at Gibson. They were so tight I had to make a slide hammer to get them out. Gibson presses them in and at this point the OP's are just pressed in a little further.
 
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If any of you (and there are a lot of you) stand/wall guys ever wanted to know why Gibson and the other major manufactures tell you to keep them in their cases when not playing... this is (among other reasons) why.
If this guitar was kept in it's case it wouldn't look awesome. It was never personally gigged but clearly owned by chain smokers. Maybe even chain smokers with a sunroom!
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I'll be keeping mine out.
 

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I also actually prefer the natural aging my wall guitars have had. I do have some case queens, but not many. To me a guitar on the wall is the same as fine art to some people. I see them, I play them. If they were all in cases I would (and have) forgotten from time to time what I had.
 

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I also actually prefer the natural aging my wall guitars have had. I do have some case queens, but not many. To me a guitar on the wall is the same as fine art to some people. I see them, I play them. If they were all in cases I would (and have) forgotten from time to time what I had.
Exactly! The only reason I don't have all my guitars on the wall is I don't have enough wall for 40 guitars. I cycle through my beauties and the only ones that don't make the wall are the ones my wife doesn't know about.

I have some guitars that are in as new condition but I do prefer a guitar with some character.
 

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They will age anyway.

When I bought my 1993 Strat, brand new, I remember the maple neck was so bright.
Almost white.

2003-2007 I bought several more new Fenders - with the bright white maple neck.
When I got them home and sat them next to my 10 year-old Strat, I couldn’t believe how much it had yellowed and darkened.

It wasn’t always stored in the case, but it had rarely been outside my non-smoking home and had never played a gig.
 

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Yes. The sleeve/bushing will have been pushed farther into the hole. Though possible, It's not likely that it's damaged or loose but attempting to return it to the original height could be the thing that makes it damaged or loose.

I pulled a set of those bushings this weekend and they were very very tightly pressed in at Gibson. They were so tight I had to make a side hammer to get them out. Gibson presses them in and at this point the OP's are just pressed in a little further.
If the bushing is pushed into the body and if the guitar’s stud isn’t long enough to raise that side of the bridge, I wonder ir three make studs with a longer threaded portion for use if the OP wants the bridge portion restored to its original height.
 

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If the bushing is pushed into the body and if the guitar’s stud isn’t long enough to raise that side of the bridge, I wonder ir three make studs with a longer threaded portion for use if the OP wants the bridge portion restored to its original height.
My guess is the normal height will only be backed off a turn or two. Just want it off the body.

I hope there isn't too much of a dent under the stop tail. However, if there is I would still consider that getting off lucky.
 

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If this guitar was kept in it's case it wouldn't look awesome. It was never personally gigged but clearly owned by chain smokers. Maybe even chain smokers with a sunroom!
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I'll be keeping mine out.

Until the pot metal post snaps without warning and sends your beautiful LP Custom crashing to the floor.

Is that a Hercules hanger?

Google 'Hercules guitar hanger failure'

Surprised to see plenty of forum members posting pics of their guitars on those hangers after mutliple documented cases of them breaking, especially with boat anchor LPs:laugh2: Come on guys!!!

EDIT: OP, my condolances. Doesn't look too bad, but always a tragedy seeing something like that happens to a lefty!
 

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That’s why I don’t understand how it happened, they are screwed in to a solid wall with 3 screws each, and I’ve had various guitars on it for the last 20 years, had to be the Gibson ☹️


Man, so sorry to hear this happened, what a nightmare! Out of interest, did you use the plugs and screws that came with the hanger? What brand was it?

I have 11 guitars hanging and used Hercules hangers going into a solid wall. They have the added bonus of a locking mechanism so that little people are less likely to be able to pull one off.

Did your actual plug come out of the wall? If it did you used a drill bit that was too large and the plug couldn't grip properly. If just the screw came out and the plug remained in the wall, you must have hastily over did it when screwing it in, chewing up the plug and damaging it's integrity.

I've no problem at all hanging my guitars, I regularly A/B several of them when learning/improvising a song to see which inspires me at that particular time and I LOVE that. I check for any movement in the hangers regularly so any issues can be sorted early. Very few hangers come off a wall in one go, there's nearly always days/weeks of warning.


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Hope you get sorted buddy! Keep us updated.
 

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Until the pot metal post snaps without warning and sends your beautiful LP Custom crashing to the floor.

Is that a Hercules hanger?

Google 'Hercules guitar hanger failure'

Surprised to see plenty of forum members posting pics of their guitars on those hangers after mutliple documented cases of them breaking, especially with boat anchor LPs:laugh2: Come on guys!!!

EDIT: OP, my condolances. Doesn't look too bad, but always a tragedy seeing something like that happens to a lefty!
Thanks Dave, so glad it wasn’t worse.
 

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