My first wiring diagram. Did I get it right?

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I'm looking to perform a pickup/wiring upgrade on one of my guitars. It currently has a HSS pickup configuration with 1 volume and 1 tone. I've done upgrades and wiring mods before, but always from diagrams found elsewhere. This is my first time having to create what I want from scratch. I was hoping one of the Gurus here, might be able to advise me.

The pickups I've selected are Iron Gears.

Smoke Stack II - Neck
Smoke Stack II - Middle
Hot Slag - Bridge

These pickups (including the single coils) can be coil-tapped, which is a feature I'd like. I'm not too fussed about individual pickups, just all 3 pickups to be tapped at the same time, off the same switch. I think this can be achieved with a 3PDT switch.

I've spent the last hour or so looking over diagrams from various places and I think I've come up with the correct schematic.

Here it is:

WiringDiagram_zps6apdhwmc.png


I think that's right, but I was hoping for someone with a little more experience than me to cast a quick eye over it so I can be sure.

Thanks a lot all!
 

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Coil split (humbucker) and coil tap are two very different things. You can use one dpdt push pull to split coil on 2 pickups at once but not all 3.

If they are wound where you can "tap" the coil to a lower/higher winding etc. then you would need 3 separate push pulls to do that, one for each pickup.

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This is the schematic for the Single Coils off the IronGear site:

http://www.irongear.co.uk/smoke_stack_ii_3xswitched_pots_pull_for_lo_output_v02_ig_wm.gif

(PS. Im sorry if it's not OK to link that here).

I might sound like a total idiot now, but I thought a 3PDT switch was 3 SPDT switches together in one "body", I didn't think the individual switches would interfere with each other. Therefore you could switch 3 different things at once.

Guess I'm wrong.
 

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This is the schematic for the Single Coils off the IronGear site:

http://www.irongear.co.uk/smoke_stack_ii_3xswitched_pots_pull_for_lo_output_v02_ig_wm.gif

(PS. Im sorry if it's not OK to link that here).

I might sound like a total idiot now, but I thought a 3PDT switch was 3 SPDT switches together in one "body", I didn't think the individual switches would interfere with each other. Therefore you could switch 3 different things at once.

Guess I'm wrong.

For some reason the diagram was not visible in your original post when I replied to this thread.

It looks like they are wired up to be tapped vs splitting coil.

The way they show it with 3 push pulls was what I was referring to and will work just fine. I try and stay away from the mini toggles they don't seem to last long.


smoke_stack_ii_3xswitched_pots_pull_for_lo_output_v02_ig_wm.gif
 

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For some reason the diagram was not visible in your original post when I replied to this thread.

It looks like they are wired up to be tapped vs splitting coil.

The way they show it with 3 push pulls was what I was referring to and will work just fine. I try and stay away from the mini toggles they don't seem to last long.

Thanks for getting back to me again.

I hear you on the mini toggles, I just really dislike push-pulls. It's a personal thing. For the amount of use the switch is likely to get, I'll take a chance on the mini-toggle.

Do you think my diagram looks like it will work, then?

I guess the sensible thing to do would be get all the components/parts, wire it up and go at it with a multimeter.
 

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Just noticed if my logic is correct, I may have selected the wrong pin on the switch for the "North Start" lead of the humbucker. It may have to be soldered to tag 3 rather than 9 according to my diagram.

Again, by my logic if I wire it up as per the diagram in my original post, the humbucker is wired the opposite of the single coils.

I'll know when the bits get here, I guess.
 

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Thanks for getting back to me again.

I hear you on the mini toggles, I just really dislike push-pulls. It's a personal thing. For the amount of use the switch is likely to get, I'll take a chance on the mini-toggle.

Do you think my diagram looks like it will work, then?

I guess the sensible thing to do would be get all the components/parts, wire it up and go at it with a multimeter.

Your diagram isn't really complete so hard to say. I suppose you could try and use the 3pdt toggle in place of the push pulls but it will switch a 3 pickups at once. Personally I would rather have the option of tapping each pickup individually like shown in the Iron gear diagram.

Hope it works out for you. :)
 

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Refreshing to see a thread with something a little different, good luck! Jonsey is a prophet when it comes to guitar internals, soak it up ;)
 

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Your diagram isn't really complete so hard to say. I suppose you could try and use the 3pdt toggle in place of the push pulls but it will switch a 3 pickups at once. Personally I would rather have the option of tapping each pickup individually like shown in the Iron gear diagram.

Hope it works out for you. :)

All 3 switched at once is exactly what I'm looking for. It suits my needs. I know I could use individual switches, but that's not for me.

I've used push/pulls before and just really disliked them. When they're switched the knob sticks so far off the guitar and it really annoyed me. 3 toggles would probably be easier, but looks too messy on the guitar IMO.

I'm pretty confident my diagram is correct (had it confirmed by a few people now too) so I'm happy. Parts are on their way, pickups will be ordered after payday, then I'll get down to it.

If you'd be interested, I can check back once it's all finished and report how it all went.

Thanks for all your help and advice Jonesy, and thanks Mookakian for the support!
 

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