My first LP.

  • Thread starter fiveightandten
  • Start date
  • This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links like Ebay, Amazon, and others.

fiveightandten

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 23, 2011
Messages
648
Reaction score
599
I've been thinking about picking up a Paul for a while now. I have a Gibson SG '61 Reissue that I bought new in 1999 and has been in heavy use ever since. My #2 is a 1990 Ric 360/6 (jetglo) that i've owned for about 10 years now. I also have a Mex Tele that comes out every once in a while.

Anyways, over the past 6 months i've been doing a lot of reading and playing different pauls. I had been pretty set on getting a used Custom, but it would require me to sell some amps to fund the purchase.

In keeping an eye on craigslist for any decent guitars, I came across a 1995 Studio in wine red with a headstock crack repair (crack, not break). I'm not one for headstock repairs, but the $400 asking price had me intrigued. I went down to have a look at it. The repair was done professionally in 1996. I picked the guitar up unplugged, hit an E chord, and that was all I needed to hear. It resonates beautifully. After some careful looking over and negotiations, I handed over $320 and brought home a new-to-me guitar, complete with the Gibson hardshell case.

I know this guitar is a bottom of the barrel Paul in every sense of the term. But I don't know of any LP enthusiast that would pass up a $320 Gibson Les Paul with a hardshell. I figure it will be a nice stepping stone to something a bit more upscale in the future.

Here's a few pics...


This color is hard to photograph, as it's so dark. But here she is after a good cleaning.
LPStudio.jpg


LPStudio2.jpg


I had originally assumed this was veneer over the back, as there aren't any seams to be found...
LPStudio1.jpg


But in looking at the edges, it looks like the back may actually be a single piece of wood. Again, this is tough to photograph.
LPStudio3.jpg


And of course, everyone wants to see the carnage. It took a fall when he leaned it up against an amp. He was a 15 year old kid at the time and the guitar was less than a year old. That had to hurt.
LPStudio4.jpg


And, i'm going to put some cream appointments on order...I like this look better than the black stuff. This is what will be happenning to her aesthetically (this belongs to a forum member here):
easyace-albums-better-pics-my-les-pauls-picture32518-2006-studio-carve.jpg


I'll keep the electronics stock for now. But sooner or later I want to upgrade the garbage wiring in the control cavity. I'm partial to the 57 classics in my '61 RI, but i'll give the pickups a chance for a while and go from there.

Thanks for all the great info in here, BTW.
 

ant_riv

Senior Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2009
Messages
1,076
Reaction score
632
Congratulations!

Great looking guitar and a fantastic price!!!!

Really cool that it plays better than it looks!

I like the idea of leaving it as is and playing it that way for a while before deciding on what changes to make.

:applause:
 

fiveightandten

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 23, 2011
Messages
648
Reaction score
599
Congratulations!

Great looking guitar and a fantastic price!!!!

Really cool that it plays better than it looks!

I like the idea of leaving it as is and playing it that way for a while before deciding on what changes to make.

:applause:
Thanks. I didn't really plan on buying it. I'm not a big wine red fan, and a studio is...well, a studio. But it was a 15 minute ride, and a Paul tagged at $400, so I didn't have much to loose.

It played decent, but was in need of a setup. The scale length is shorter than my SG. I've noticed it's more finicky with neck adjustments. I have it playing pretty well now, but with this heat wave we're in, it's likely to shift.

It resonates very nicely though. Some pauls i've played feel kinda dead...a lot of the newer ones i've played haven't impressed me in that respect. Some are just plain amazing and feel alive in your hands. This one is definitely closer to the latter side of things. It's an ugly duckling (hopefully the cream appointments will help that a bit), but feels nice. I'll reserve my judgement on the tone until I see how it sits in the mix with the band this week. :fingersx:
 

Tone deaf

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2011
Messages
40,961
Reaction score
118,546
I know this guitar is a bottom of the barrel Paul in every sense of the term.

I think you haven't spent enough time with your studio, yet.

My studio is one of the best guitars that I have ever owned. In fact, I am considering culling the heard (to make room for a new-to-me norlin) and the my '99 Clapton Sig Strat is on the block, ahead of my '99 studio. It is the only one of my guitars that I have played for any meaningful amount of time recently (except my Martin, when my little one is in the tub).
 

GitFiddle

Senior Member
Joined
Jun 1, 2010
Messages
11,166
Reaction score
14,171
Congratulations. Sounds like you landed a sweet deal. Sometimes a good player with the least investment is the most fun to experiment with.

Welcome to MLP. :thumb:
 

fiveightandten

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 23, 2011
Messages
648
Reaction score
599
I think you haven't spent enough time with your studio, yet.

My studio is one of the best guitars that I have ever owned. In fact, I am considering culling the heard (to make room for a new-to-me norlin) and the my '99 Clapton Sig Strat is on the block, ahead of my '99 studio. It is the only one of my guitars that I have played for any meaningful amount of time recently (except my Martin, when my little one is in the tub).
Thanks for the kind words. You're right, I haven't spent much time with it. Just trying to be humble about it though...I know how internet forums can be. Ie. "You started a thread about a 90's Studio with a headstock repair? Get over yourself dude". :rofl: Know what I mean? It's a humble guitar compared to some of the pieces I see around here, that's all. But it does feel nice, and if nothing else it'll get me into the LP world and introduce me to the subtleties of playing a LP long term that i'm sure one doesn't pick up on from fiddling around with them in music stores.
Congratulations. Sounds like you landed a sweet deal. Sometimes a good player with the least investment is the most fun to experiment with.

Welcome to MLP. :thumb:
Thanks very much.

Agreed.



Actually, while i'm at it, the only problem i'm having with the guitar has to do with the tailpiece. I need to have it quite high for the strings to clear the back end of the bridge. I much prefer the feel of it cranked down lower.

Relief is at about .009 at the 9th fret. The neck has a slight warp, as i'm seeing about .009 on the bass side and .010 on the treble side. I'll deal with that soon.
Low E height is about 6/64 @12th fret
High E height it about 4/64 @12th fret

Using Ernie ball 10's.

Any thoughts? I do play lead in this band, but my playing is so heavily centered around rhythms, I vastly prefer the tailpiece lower. Do people with this issue switch to 11's?
 

acstorfer

Senior Member
Joined
Oct 21, 2008
Messages
19,650
Reaction score
21,323
Why is it a bottom of the barrel Les Paul? The only real difference, to me anyway, between your Studio and a Standard is the lack of binding. You can always swap out the pups which is another small, but changeable difference. That's only if you choose to. Maybe there is a difference in wood quality? I've never heard that from an official source, not saying Gibson hasn't said it, just that I never heard it. So as far as I'm concerned, that claim is just an old wives tale.

You got a great deal! A $1,200.00 guitar for a hair over $300.00. That's just a great deal. I personally popped my LP on a Studio just like yours, mine was ebony with gold hardware and I had to pay considerably more. It's good it had the broken headstock, it was repaired professionally and more savings for you. Win-Win!

Congratulations again on your score and welcome to the addiction known as Les Paul guitars!
 

freddarl82

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 11, 2009
Messages
777
Reaction score
214
Damn! I'm going to put you in for the "Deal-O-the-Month" award! GREAT find! And, a +1 for the cream plastics idea. This one could be a great candidate to sand/remove the finish along the edge of the maple cap for the "faux binding" look (plenty of other threads on that, many 60's Studio Tribute owners have done it).

Nice find!
 

fiveightandten

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 23, 2011
Messages
648
Reaction score
599
Why is it a bottom of the barrel Les Paul? The only real difference, to me anyway, between your Studio and a Standard is the lack of binding. You can always swap out the pups which is another small, but changeable difference. That's only if you choose to. Maybe there is a difference in wood quality? I've never heard that from an official source, not saying Gibson hasn't said it, just that I never heard it. So as far as I'm concerned, that claim is just an old wives tale.

You got a great deal! A $1,200.00 guitar for a hair over $300.00. That's just a great deal. I personally popped my LP on a Studio just like yours, mine was ebony with gold hardware and I had to pay considerably more. It's good it had the broken headstock, it was repaired professionally and more savings for you. Win-Win!

Congratulations again on your score and welcome to the addiction known as Les Paul guitars!
Thanks for the kind words. I like the guitar a lot. I'm excited to get her down to rehearsal with the band this week. So far, it's exactly what I was looking for...a fatter sounding version of my SG. The pickups are obviously different, so it's more aggressive sounding than my SG. But it'll be fun to integrate this one into the herd. What i'm really curious about is how my shoulder feels after a few hours of playing. :fingersx:

The ebony is a nice color...what year is yours? Bought her brand new? You must be excited. I remember taking my SG home from Sam Ash in '99...like it was yesterday. For people like us, it's like driving off the lot in a brand new car. :cool:
Damn! I'm going to put you in for the "Deal-O-the-Month" award! GREAT find! And, a +1 for the cream plastics idea. This one could be a great candidate to sand/remove the finish along the edge of the maple cap for the "faux binding" look (plenty of other threads on that, many 60's Studio Tribute owners have done it).

Nice find!
Thanks! I know, I couldn't pass it up. I took a ride out today for the Cream plastics. Actually a few rides...that stuff is hard to find. No single store had all the pieces in stock.


I threw that stuff on a little while ago. I think it's an improvement.

Before...

LPStudio.jpg


Now...

LPStudio5.jpg


LPStudio7.jpg


LPStudio6.jpg
 

HOT-BRIT

V.I.P. Member
Joined
Aug 16, 2010
Messages
20,977
Reaction score
16,618
that is a beauty!!!!!!!
and you got the best deal I have ever heard of!!!!!!!!!
enjoy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

KenG

Senior Member
Joined
Sep 13, 2009
Messages
6,324
Reaction score
3,448
Get some straplocks on that sucker!
Nice looking & yes the creme plastics pop a little more than the black.
Happy playing.
 

fiveightandten

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 23, 2011
Messages
648
Reaction score
599
that is a beauty!!!!!!!
and you got the best deal I have ever heard of!!!!!!!!!
enjoy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks! I think the cream plastics set it off and turned things up a notch or two. I've had some pretty good deals over the years, this is a nice one for sure.
Handsome. That may be the best $320 you ever spent. :dude:
Thanks man. It's $320 well spent. A while back, I picked up a Hiwatt 4x12 for $300 at Sam Ash (wound up being about $320 after tax), so this rivals that for the best $320 i've spent. We'll see after a few sessions with the band and some fine tuning with the action/setup.
Get some straplocks on that sucker!
Nice looking & yes the creme plastics pop a little more than the black.
Happy playing.
Thanks man. Yeah, i'm digging the cream...and those pieces were girlfriend approved (the gold knobs were her recommendation actually), so i'm confident it looks better...she doesn't care how the guitar resonates or feels to play...as long as it looks 'pretty'. :D

Actually, I don't do strap locks. In my guitars I typically put washers over the strap ends. I use a washer that's big enough to fit over the bottom of the strap pin, but not the top. I trust this method more than strap locks.

My SG...

LPStudio9.jpg


While i'm at it...here's some pics of the amp collection...

ChristmasCalendar.jpg


ChristmasCalendar2.jpg


1964 Vox AC-50, 1966 Vox AC-50, Mid-90's AC-30TBX, 1971 Orange 4x12, 1971 Orange GRO100, Hiwatt Custom 50 clone (built that one myself), two 1980 Hiwatt 4x12's...and I have 2 Avatar 2x12's (one with Greenbacks and one with V30's).

The 4x12's are too much firepower, i'll be unloading them at some point to fund a Les Paul...well, that was the plan at least. The Hiwatt and the AC-30 have been my main amps lately. I also have an AC-30CC2, which I picked up hoping the master volume would make the volume more workable for smaller clubs. But I much prefer my TBX, so that CC2 is on the block as well. AC-30CC2 + Orange 4x12 + Hiwatt 4x12's will put a good dent in a LP Custom or an R0 or '68RI.
 

Tone deaf

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2011
Messages
40,961
Reaction score
118,546
Thanks! I think the cream plastics set it off and turned things up a notch or two. I've had some pretty good deals over the years, this is a nice one for sure.
Thanks man. It's $320 well spent. A while back, I picked up a Hiwatt 4x12 for $300 at Sam Ash (wound up being about $320 after tax), so this rivals that for the best $320 i've spent. We'll see after a few sessions with the band and some fine tuning with the action/setup.

Thanks man. Yeah, i'm digging the cream...and those pieces were girlfriend approved (the gold knobs were her recommendation actually), so i'm confident it looks better...she doesn't care how the guitar resonates or feels to play...as long as it looks 'pretty'. :D

Actually, I don't do strap locks. In my guitars I typically put washers over the strap ends. I use a washer that's big enough to fit over the bottom of the strap pin, but not the top. I trust this method more than strap locks.

My SG...

LPStudio9.jpg


While i'm at it...here's some pics of the amp collection...

ChristmasCalendar.jpg


ChristmasCalendar2.jpg


1964 Vox AC-50, 1966 Vox AC-50, Mid-90's AC-30TBX, 1971 Orange 4x12, 1971 Orange GRO100, Hiwatt Custom 50 clone (built that one myself), two 1980 Hiwatt 4x12's...and I have 2 Avatar 2x12's (one with Greenbacks and one with V30's).

The 4x12's are too much firepower, i'll be unloading them at some point to fund a Les Paul...well, that was the plan at least. The Hiwatt and the AC-30 have been my main amps lately. I also have an AC-30CC2, which I picked up hoping the master volume would make the volume more workable for smaller clubs. But I much prefer my TBX, so that CC2 is on the block as well. AC-30CC2 + Orange 4x12 + Hiwatt 4x12's will put a good dent in a LP Custom or an R0 or '68RI.

Nice vintage gear...
 

nutsauce

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 4, 2011
Messages
2,403
Reaction score
1,789
Man that is a great looking Studio and I would have jumped on that deal in a second. I love my $800 Jr. just as much as my Custom.
 

dcooper830

Senior Member
Joined
Aug 29, 2007
Messages
1,551
Reaction score
528
Congrats and I hope you enjoy it!

Its not "bottom of the barrel" and it's not "garbage wiring".

I have a 1991 Wine Red LP Studio just like that one and its a phenomenal guitar. It feels extremely comfortable with low action and easy playing. Stays in tune great and has huge warm tone with plenty of bite.

It's completely stock.

I think it's every bit as awesome as my '58 VOS Les Paul.

So enjoy it! I'm sure you have a truly great guitar! :)
 

InkedLester

Drippin with Blues Blood
Joined
Oct 13, 2010
Messages
1,414
Reaction score
1,103
Congrats! Looks like my first LP which I no longer have. :(
 

fiveightandten

Senior Member
Joined
Jul 23, 2011
Messages
648
Reaction score
599
Nice vintage gear...
Thanks man. Over the years I seem to be accumulating amps at a rate higher than the rate at which I sell them.
Man that is a great looking Studio and I would have jumped on that deal in a second. I love my $800 Jr. just as much as my Custom.
Thanks! Hopefully soon i'll stop thinking about it as the guitar I got for real cheap and start thinking about it as a great guitar.
Congrats and I hope you enjoy it!

Its not "bottom of the barrel" and it's not "garbage wiring".

I have a 1991 Wine Red LP Studio just like that one and its a phenomenal guitar. It feels extremely comfortable with low action and easy playing. Stays in tune great and has huge warm tone with plenty of bite.

It's completely stock.

I think it's every bit as awesome as my '58 VOS Les Paul.

So enjoy it! I'm sure you have a truly great guitar! :)
Thanks! Post some pics up of yours if you have any.

Maybe garbage is a strong term for the wiring. But I'm unimpressed with the wire they used in comparison to what's in my SG.
Congrats! Looks like my first LP which I no longer have. :(
Thanks. Sorry to hear yours is out of the family...though it looks like you have a few other nice ones in the herd now.
Nice guitar!
Thanks!
No such thing. :cool:
Haha. Point taken. :laugh2:
 

Latest Threads



Top
')