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Great job man!

Now fix the forks on that bike!

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Wonderful story and congratulations! Make it a lifetime commitment and don't look back. In 2014 I decided I had had enough of being overweight and I felt I was headed somewhere really bad with my health. I was 175lbs at 5'9." Not earth shattering right? But I felt horrible most of the time and I feared I'd be dead by 55 like my father. Logging what I was eating was an eye opener for sure. I also think there's a psychological wall you have to get over with food, eating, dieting, etc. These days I run 5 times a week, weight train twice per week, and am always looking to improve my health/fitness and diet.
 

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Wow!

I'm extremely gratified to have had so many of you say that my story is helping you to juice up mentally and keep the motivation strong... this is giving me a case of warm fuzzies like you wouldn't believe, because in fact I really *did* hope that maybe somebody might read my crazy shit and realize: if this guy can do it, I can do it too!

And you can... you really CAN! :thumb:

Now, I do not consider myself to be some dietary expert, okay? So what I'm about to say might be a little goofy-sounding, or maybe it will ring a bell... I dunno.

We'll find out in just a second, 'cause this is what I think enabled me to succeed: it was the particular psychological approach I took to the business of dieting.

That is: I realized that the only approach that I would be capable of sustaining for a relatively long period of time called for a mindset that could be summed up as NO MERCY.

Let me try to explain: I'd be in the grocery store line, reading the covers of the scandal sheets, but also noticing that there were quite a few magazines and other publications that dealt with the subject of keto dieting, and which usually featured recipes that would make the diet itself more tolerable by featuring a greater variety of foods and seasonings.

And for some folks, this is the way to go: take it easy, don't go all knucklehead like I did... make it nicer, more pleasant and not such a cruddy kind of thing to endure.

***************​

But for me, that wouldn't work. All it would have done was to make the keto diet seem even worse because now I had to juke around just to make my food seem like something tastier and more exciting.

And in my case, that would have led to me hanging up the diet pretty quickly. And so would doing stuff like eating tofu burgers and fake meat, and so forth.

I realized that for me, the only approach would be the most miserable ordeal I could possibly contrive for myself to pass through, because when I hit shit like that I tend to enter an emotional state that's probably a kissin' cousin to rage or something along those lines... and my determination tends to present itself as an exponentially greater force than what I get when I try to take it easy on myself.

***************​

Even more weird is to admit that I also considered that there was a karmic element to all of this. I'm not talking about "karma" in the theological sense, so much as to say that I'd been an all-out glutton for a very long time, and it was about time for a little payback. The diet wasn't punishment, per se... but it was a consequence of having gotten to be so porky that I could sit on a heavy-duty park bench and hear the planks groaning under my ass.

So, being me, I just kinda abandoned all thoughts of satiation for my cravings and accepted the idea that my era of hedonistic gluttony had come to a screeching halt. And I deserved it, too... I had it coming!

Eating the same boring shit, six times a freakin' day in those birdy little portions a la the South Beach Diet sucked just enough to really piss me off. And just to make sure I stayed pissed off, I didn't go in for the South Beach approach, which is more "keto friendly" than totally ketogenic.

But here's a thing, and I'm going back to the psychological component of dieting: there are many, many thousands of people who met with great success using the South Beach program, because it's *not* such a miserable ordeal as the program I designed for myself.

I'm not particularly pushing the South Beach Diet here, though... it's just one of several approaches to ketogenic (or keto-friendly, at least) dieting and it might not be right for you.

Don't be afraid to do a lot of looking around, as you figure out what sort of tactics would be best for you as an individual.

****************​

You know: sometimes I think that the Army really fucked me up, man. It's like ever since they got their hooks into me, I couldn't stand anything at all unless I really, really *hated* it...

And then I'd love it! It was nuts! :laugh2:

***************​

So never mind me when it comes to my particular approach-- seriously.

What folks maybe should do before really hitting it is just to figure out what they can put up with. Not everybody has to go all kamikaze with this shit... and if you do, expect to deal with Olds442 once he gets wind of what you're doing to yourself.

LOL Olds and I had a three-hour conversation on the phone one night, and there were times when he sounded almost alarmed to learn what I'd been up to down here. He even scolded me a little bit! I loved it! :laugh2:

But once he was done with that, he started laying down some really good information concerning nutrition. And I could tell that the guy knew his stuff. Per usual, I was sitting there jotting down notes as we spoke...

But if you want to know what Olds really did for me, it was this: he gave me permission to resume a more normal sort of nutritional intake. He told me that it was okay for me to have a soft drink once in a while... or a couple of slices of pizza... or a candy bar, even. Just watch it, and make those treats special little things... not what you actually tend to eat as though it were a meal of some sort... and damn, do NOT eat an entire pizza at once!

****************​

He advised me that the really heavy-duty part was now over, and then directed me to stop worrying about weight and to simply be aware of BMI and such. But mostly, he wanted me to start eating like a normal human being again, instead of like a lunatic living in a desert made up of protein powder instead of sand.

I continue to marvel at that conversation, and the effect it had on me. I didn't realize it right away, but I had actually become so entrenched in my mindset and habits, that I really did have to have somebody else come along and actually tell me that it was okay to cool my jets...

Amazing. And don't ask me how or why it was Olds who got his finger on the button and shut it off like that. But that's who it was, and that's how he did it.

Scary guy! :laugh2:

***************​

But I digress... what I really wish to say is only that I think that doing a little bit of realistic personal inventory-- figuring out what you can put up with and what you think would be over the top-- is the best way to go.

You can even do stuff like just go ketogenic for a few weeks, and then lay off and resume a more normal-- but carefully metered-- dietary intake. And for a lot of people, that's a really great way to go because you get some relief from the strictures of dieting, but you're gonna lose that weight anyway.

Just, it wouldn't work for me. Due to my particular nature as a being, for me the only way for me to go was to go to hell... no mercy, and I could go screw myself if I didn't like it. So I just ate my incredibly boring meals, drank my yucky protein shakes, and loved complaining about it to anybody dumb enough to actually talk to me.

It was miserable... damn, I was so happy! :rofl:

***************​

But setting aside the jokes, I'm very impressed by you guys who've also been dieting... and those of you who are getting ready to go back to it, you've got my vote.

I wish each and every one of you greatest success with your goals, and I look forward to seeing some of you guys coming in to let us know how you're doing in your own personal efforts. I just know that some of you guys are gonna kick serious ass once you commit to it and the mission is on.

YOU CAN DO IT!

--R :thumb:
 

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Hey guys looking to drop some pounds two easy things you can do.
1: Watch your caloric intake.
2: Walk. As much as possible.

I was amazed at how much and how quickly I dropped weight mostly doing these two things.
I used my Fitbit and its associated app to watch how many calories I was taking in (it has a really good food product lookup feature) and how many I burned each day.
For me I can consistently do a mile in 19 minutes and will do two one hour walking sessions each day. Each one hour three mile walk burns about 500 calories and gets my heart rate to peak around 160 BPM with an average around 120 to 130 BPM. So if you're taking in 2000 cals you can easily get rid of half of them in two pleasant hours.
The Under Armour App for Walking is phenomenal ,, just do the free version ,, all you need to know is how far , the mile spilts and the total calories burned .. its up to you if you want the pay version ,, too much stuff to load in the app...
 

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Congrats, Rob!!

Thanks, bud! :thumb:

I lost 10lbs this past couple months. Just those ten pounds made a huge difference for me. My back is better, my knees don't hurt as much and I feel better.

Great job, man! Very happy to learn that you're not in the kind of pain I knew you to be suffering...

A question: are you still doing your Tai Chi exercises? As I recall, you had success and a really noticeable easement of pain and stiffness in your knees back when we got you going on that stuff...

Either way, though: I'm very happy to hear that you not only lost weight, but that it also made a real difference in your daily life.

Drive on, brother!

--R :thumb:
 

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That’s so great to hear Rob! I’ve been right there with you, unknowingly but still.

It’s hard man, the tedium is one thing, but damn... I’m not built to withstand certain temptations! :laugh2:

I don’t have a sweet tooth, I’ve got a full set of sugar addicted chompers, or what’s left of the full set anyway.

And I’m not so lucky to have a particular hankering, I want ALL the junk food. Waking through the supermarket now is what I imagine going online and NOT looking at porn must be like.

I’ve even cut out 75%+ of my red meat and especially fried food intake.

I’m starting to feel like @TheX.

I’m down a full 120 from about 2 years ago and just now starting to hit some weights on top of my push-ups and sit-ups. Can’t quite make a full pull up yet, but I’m fuckin a close and that’s better than I’ve been in over a decade.

Keep at it brother, it’s a hard row, but it’s worth it.
 

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That’s so great to hear Rob! I’ve been right there with you, unknowingly but still.

It’s hard man, the tedium is one thing, but damn... I’m not built to withstand certain temptations! :laugh2:

I don’t have a sweet tooth, I’ve got a full set of sugar addicted chompers, or what’s left of the full set anyway.

And I’m not so lucky to have a particular hankering, I want ALL the junk food. Waking through the supermarket now is what I imagine going online and NOT looking at porn must be like.

I’ve even cut out 75%+ of my red meat and especially fried food intake.

I’m starting to feel like @TheX.

I’m down a full 120 from about 2 years ago and just now starting to hit some weights on top of my push-ups and sit-ups. Can’t quite make a full pull up yet, but I’m fuckin a close and that’s better than I’ve been in over a decade.

Keep at it brother, it’s a hard row, but it’s worth it.


Wow, that's fantastic! Great job! :applause:

I recall that some time ago, you and I had a discussion regarding hair length and hair cuts, along with our respective physical conditions. I'd no idea that you got crackin' on the weight loss, but I do recall that you said you were about to start trying to lose some weight...

...but holy crap man! 120 pounds? That is very impressive! :thumb:

Now, quit cutting your hair!

--R :laugh2:
 

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Wow, that's fantastic! Great job! :applause:

I recall that some time ago, you and I had a discussion regarding hair length and hair cuts, along with our respective physical conditions. I'd no idea that you got crackin' on the weight loss, but I do recall that you said you were about to start trying to lose some weight...

...but holy crap man! 120 pounds? That is very impressive! :thumb:

Now, quit cutting your hair!

--R :laugh2:
SAMSON CUT. HIS HAIR ,, LOOK WHAT IT. DID FOR HIM. !!!
 

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Wow!

I'm extremely gratified to have had so many of you say that my story is helping you to juice up mentally and keep the motivation strong... this is giving me a case of warm fuzzies like you wouldn't believe, because in fact I really *did* hope that maybe somebody might read my crazy shit and realize: if this guy can do it, I can do it too!

And you can... you really CAN! :thumb:

Now, I do not consider myself to be some dietary expert, okay? So what I'm about to say might be a little goofy-sounding, or maybe it will ring a bell... I dunno.

We'll find out in just a second, 'cause this is what I think enabled me to succeed: it was the particular psychological approach I took to the business of dieting.

That is: I realized that the only approach that I would be capable of sustaining for a relatively long period of time called for a mindset that could be summed up as NO MERCY.

Let me try to explain: I'd be in the grocery store line, reading the covers of the scandal sheets, but also noticing that there were quite a few magazines and other publications that dealt with the subject of keto dieting, and which usually featured recipes that would make the diet itself more tolerable by featuring a greater variety of foods and seasonings.

And for some folks, this is the way to go: take it easy, don't go all knucklehead like I did... make it nicer, more pleasant and not such a cruddy kind of thing to endure.

***************​

But for me, that wouldn't work. All it would have done was to make the keto diet seem even worse because now I had to juke around just to make my food seem like something tastier and more exciting.

And in my case, that would have led to me hanging up the diet pretty quickly. And so would doing stuff like eating tofu burgers and fake meat, and so forth.

I realized that for me, the only approach would be the most miserable ordeal I could possibly contrive for myself to pass through, because when I hit shit like that I tend to enter an emotional state that's probably a kissin' cousin to rage or something along those lines... and my determination tends to present itself as an exponentially greater force than what I get when I try to take it easy on myself.

***************​

Even more weird is to admit that I also considered that there was a karmic element to all of this. I'm not talking about "karma" in the theological sense, so much as to say that I'd been an all-out glutton for a very long time, and it was about time for a little payback. The diet wasn't punishment, per se... but it was a consequence of having gotten to be so porky that I could sit on a heavy-duty park bench and hear the planks groaning under my ass.

So, being me, I just kinda abandoned all thoughts of satiation for my cravings and accepted the idea that my era of hedonistic gluttony had come to a screeching halt. And I deserved it, too... I had it coming!

Eating the same boring shit, six times a freakin' day in those birdy little portions a la the South Beach Diet sucked just enough to really piss me off. And just to make sure I stayed pissed off, I didn't go in for the South Beach approach, which is more "keto friendly" than totally ketogenic.

But here's a thing, and I'm going back to the psychological component of dieting: there are many, many thousands of people who met with great success using the South Beach program, because it's *not* such a miserable ordeal as the program I designed for myself.

I'm not particularly pushing the South Beach Diet here, though... it's just one of several approaches to ketogenic (or keto-friendly, at least) dieting and it might not be right for you.

Don't be afraid to do a lot of looking around, as you figure out what sort of tactics would be best for you as an individual.

****************​

You know: sometimes I think that the Army really fucked me up, man. It's like ever since they got their hooks into me, I couldn't stand anything at all unless I really, really *hated* it...

And then I'd love it! It was nuts! :laugh2:

***************​

So never mind me when it comes to my particular approach-- seriously.

What folks maybe should do before really hitting it is just to figure out what they can put up with. Not everybody has to go all kamikaze with this shit... and if you do, expect to deal with Olds442 once he gets wind of what you're doing to yourself.

LOL Olds and I had a three-hour conversation on the phone one night, and there were times when he sounded almost alarmed to learn what I'd been up to down here. He even scolded me a little bit! I loved it! :laugh2:

But once he was done with that, he started laying down some really good information concerning nutrition. And I could tell that the guy knew his stuff. Per usual, I was sitting there jotting down notes as we spoke...

But if you want to know what Olds really did for me, it was this: he gave me permission to resume a more normal sort of nutritional intake. He told me that it was okay for me to have a soft drink once in a while... or a couple of slices of pizza... or a candy bar, even. Just watch it, and make those treats special little things... not what you actually tend to eat as though it were a meal of some sort... and damn, do NOT eat an entire pizza at once!

****************​

He advised me that the really heavy-duty part was now over, and then directed me to stop worrying about weight and to simply be aware of BMI and such. But mostly, he wanted me to start eating like a normal human being again, instead of like a lunatic living in a desert made up of protein powder instead of sand.

I continue to marvel at that conversation, and the effect it had on me. I didn't realize it right away, but I had actually become so entrenched in my mindset and habits, that I really did have to have somebody else come along and actually tell me that it was okay to cool my jets...

Amazing. And don't ask me how or why it was Olds who got his finger on the button and shut it off like that. But that's who it was, and that's how he did it.

Scary guy! :laugh2:

***************​

But I digress... what I really wish to say is only that I think that doing a little bit of realistic personal inventory-- figuring out what you can put up with and what you think would be over the top-- is the best way to go.

You can even do stuff like just go ketogenic for a few weeks, and then lay off and resume a more normal-- but carefully metered-- dietary intake. And for a lot of people, that's a really great way to go because you get some relief from the strictures of dieting, but you're gonna lose that weight anyway.

Just, it wouldn't work for me. Due to my particular nature as a being, for me the only way for me to go was to go to hell... no mercy, and I could go screw myself if I didn't like it. So I just ate my incredibly boring meals, drank my yucky protein shakes, and loved complaining about it to anybody dumb enough to actually talk to me.

It was miserable... damn, I was so happy! :rofl:

***************​

But setting aside the jokes, I'm very impressed by you guys who've also been dieting... and those of you who are getting ready to go back to it, you've got my vote.

I wish each and every one of you greatest success with your goals, and I look forward to seeing some of you guys coming in to let us know how you're doing in your own personal efforts. I just know that some of you guys are gonna kick serious ass once you commit to it and the mission is on.

YOU CAN DO IT!

--R :thumb:
Roberteaux,, one more thing ,,, I pretty much only eat twice a day ,,, never after6 o’clock Anymore, except a handful of almonds or some citrus style fruit ,, grapefruit and oranges are the best for losing weight . I take KETO ONE pils twice a day too,, I m playing. A show tonight with my band and I will not eat When I get home and if I were to eat anything , it would be a bowl of healthy cereal. Or a cereal bar. ,,, I am not hungry much anymore like I used to be ..
 

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Roberteaux,, one more thing ,,, I pretty much only eat twice a day ,,, never after6 o’clock Anymore, except a handful of almonds or some citrus style fruit ,, grapefruit and oranges are the best for losing weight . I take KETO ONE pils twice a day too,, I m playing. A show tonight with my band and I will not eat When I get home and if I were to eat anything , it would be a bowl of healthy cereal. Or a cereal bar. ,,, I am not hungry much anymore like I used to be ..

It's amazing, isn't it... how if you go long enough with this dieting stuff, you almost become indifferent towards food in general! :hmm:

A lot of what you said above is precisely what Olds442 had to say to me on the phone, too! :shock:

And you've got a gig tonight? That's great! Break a leg, dude! :applause:

--R :thumb:
 

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Good job! I'm on the verge of doing this myself.

The hard part is actually buckling down and getting started. I need to lose about 30 pounds. Your story gives me the motivation to make the leap.
 

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Looking good man, great job! It’s encouraging to see older folks like us get their shit together and be healthy. My wife and I are both 51 and have let ourselves go in the last 5 years or so but ready to get back in some kind of shape.
 

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Good job! I'm on the verge of doing this myself.

The hard part is actually buckling down and getting started. I need to lose about 30 pounds. Your story gives me the motivation to make the leap.

Do it, man! :thumb:

You get it together, set up the right kind of program for you, and have at it... and you will lose that 30 pounds so quickly that you may actually be shocked!

Everybody's different, of course, and there are a bunch of physical factors that will have an effect on how quickly one loses weight, but if you go with a "normal diet" (which is mostly about cutting calories without attempting to enter into the metabolic state of ketosis) it's more or less average to lose 2 pounds per week. An exercise regimen definitely helps... but ultimately, it's what you're eating that will make the biggest difference of all.

So, if you just cut down on the calories, and avoid sugar as though it were the deadly poison that it really and truly is, you are gonna start losing weight immediately, and if you're about average you can lose that 30 pounds in 8 or 10 weeks, depending.

If one cuts their carb intake to drastic lows (like, under 25 grams per day) it's not at all unusual to lose about ten pounds in the first week of dieting. And that's not even an all-out ketogenic diet, it's just getting that sugar outta your life.

Sugar is THE enemy, man!

Of course, most of that ten pounds that might come off in the first week is water weight. But after that, you're going to be making your body burn up more of that lovely glycogen stored in those beautiful white fat cells of ours... so the weight loss might slow down considerably after that first week... but you are still gonna lose from 2 - 3 pounds per week.

So, if all you do is contrive a low carb diet, including a ban on all forms of sugar, you will lose that 30 pounds in something like 8 or 10 weeks!

Now consider how quickly the last three months blew by. It didn't feel like a really long interval, did it?

So, if you just cut down on the carbs and avoid sugar... well, when it comes to that 30 pounds the story is gonna be:

Poof! Gone! :thumb:

Oh yeah, you can do this... you really can!

So... do it!

--R :thumb:
 

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good work...i would be happy to lose 50 pounds but i dont do starvation well.i did join planet fitness with my wife about 3 weeks ago and have been working out about an hour a day 3 or 4 days a week.the first week was murder and i could hardly move my arms but im feeling better now and starting to do a little more weight on the machines.i dont eat much in the way of sugar(borderline diabetes will do that to you) so im hoping the exercise will pay off.manny pizza in ormond is gonna be a weak spot when i go on vacation though.at least they got good greek salad...
 

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Nail on the head with the sugar. Rob That shit is awful. Carbs, too. It's really hard to avoid it and still enjoy eating. So, I try to blend it in, keeping protein and healthy fats higher.

I didn't go kamikaze with stopping food, but I found out that each plateau takes some time (for me) to pass through. I have good weeks and bad weeks. At the moment, I seem to be stuck in the 180's, but I am not panicking. I'm almost home.

Then again, I do go off the reservation now and then, too. So, those setbacks add to the drama. But, I think it's important to treat yourself now & then with a good (bad for you) meal.

We went to dinner twice this week. First time was Italian... yea - pasta. Death. Second time was a 16oz ribeye with a baked potato (containing the usual stick of butter standing up out the top of it) and creamed spinach. Each meal also had a bottle of wine.

So, this week, the numbers don't look good. LOL
 

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82nd Airborne. AA

You da man!

Hey, thanks!

Tellin' you something, Unk...

That unit took an enormous chunk of my emotional heart, and kept it for itself. Forever. I love the Eight Deuce as if it was a woman or something. It's almost whacky, the strong sentiments I still have for my old unit, even now... 40 years later!

I signed up for Special Forces... and I got the school, all right. But I wasn't on Smoke Bomb Hill for very long. I was an 11 Bang-Bang, and was cross trained as 11C (mortars, recoiless rifles, rocket launchers, and other fun stuff like that) as well as being trained as a 13F forward observer and shot-caller for artillery. Later after that, they trained me to serve as a fire direction controller, that is, back with the battery of whatever big stuff we meant to pound the enemy with.

Too bad that's what everybody else signed up for, though! :laugh2:

They had such an abundance of grunts that a n00b like me stood about as much chance of getting a slot on an operational detachment (the so-called A-Team of Special Forces) as I have of being hit by lightning, five minutes from now.

What they needed was SF medics and commo men. No way was the Army gonna spend another zillion bucks on training me as a medic, but if I could pass this Morse Code course they had going, I'd be in like Flynn...

Unfortunately, I washed outta that school in what might have been record time. You'd probably be better off training a chimp as a coder than to try and get me up to speed on it. I later learned that the course was actually designed to weed out people who didn't have a particular aptitude for Morse Code... and that in fact, nobody in the field was using Morse Code to begin with. It was just a way to sort out the guys who would make the best commo men... and alas, I was not such a person.

So I ended up being... well, a maintenance man of sorts. They had me painting parking lot bollards, assembling wall lockers in the new barracks for another unit (the 18th Airborne Corps) and rakin' rocks. If they still had horses, I'm sure they'd have had me shoveling shit.

I went to the CSM of SF... he had an open door policy, and I was trying to get the guy to make me a 12B combat engineer... but they already had about one thousand too many of them hanging around, and so it was no dice.

However, the Sergeant Major surprised me with a proposition that I never would have thought of myself. He started out by telling me that he was pretty sure that unless the balloon went up, I'd be a glorified janitor for the rest of my military career.

How depressing! :laugh2:

BUT, he said, if I wanted to actually be a soldier-- to train like a soldier, live like a soldier, and concern myself solely with soldier's stakes as an infantryman, he could hook me up with the 82nd Airborne and he promised me, "You WILL feel like a soldier if you're assigned to the 82nd. They'll have your ass in the field more often than not, and you sure won't be feeling like a garret soldier any more."

There was a little more to his sales pitch than just that, but the bottom line was this: did I want to be a grunt, or did I want to mop latrine floors as my military specialty?

So, I jumped on it. I was a bit disappointed not to make an operational detachment, but by the same token I was mollified to have at least gotten the training I signed up for... but this deal with the 82nd sounded really good, right up my alley.

And so that's how I ended up as an M-60 gunner in Company A, 2nd battalion of the 325th Infantry Regiment, Airborne.

Man, those guys hazed me like a SOB, and for quite a while there, it really sucked. Bastards! I'd have probably killed somebody if not for the fact that some of the shit they pulled on me was so incredibly funny! :laugh2:

But that tattoo you see? Just real quick I'll tell ya: a lot of the guys had airborne tattoos... and as I was airborne qualified, I could have gone and gotten one myself any old time... except for one thing: the guys in my platoon promised to really kick my ass and fuck with me harder than ever if I dared to get such a tattoo without their permission! :shock:

Holy shit, what gall! But then again, this was the 82nd, and that unit is nothing if not STRAC from top to bottom. You're either one of 'em, or they'll chew you up and spit you out like a wad of spent chawin' tobakky.

Okay, so after a series of misadventures, all contrived by my peers mostly to bust my balls, one day my roommate said to me, "Good news for you, Rob!"

"Good news?" I said warily, "So what's the good news?" I was ready to hear him making a joke at my expense but instead he gave me a nice, hard shot in the shoulder and said, "The good news, asshole, is that we decided that you are now one of us. You made the grade, bro! And the platoon took up a collection to pay for your tattoo... so come on, 'cause we're gonna go get you inked up proper, right now!" :shock:

I was astonished. My emotional reaction was close to overwhelming. These dudes decided that I was one of them, now... and I could fly our logos with pride... and be one of them.

I never felt like that before. I suddenly had something like 120 brothers who knew me by name... and another 9,000 or so who didn't know me from Adam... but they knew I was one of them, and I was down with them no matter what.

You know, I thought I'd be lifer material, but I really wasn't. Military life is a good life, but it's often a hard life, and that's no matter who the hell you're working for or what you're doing, even. And I realized that basically, this thing with the 82nd kinda ran its course, and now I wanted to go back into The World and do something else.

I chose law enforcement because I thought that by being a cop, I would relive the intense camaraderie of the troops of the 82nd Airborne...

But hey, Vinnie: you've spent a lot more time in court than I ever did, and so I'm pretty darned sure that you've seen the kind of shithead rivalries that sometimes exist between cops, whether from the same agency or two different agencies.

It just wasn't the same. In the police world I had a couple of guys who were my bros... but the agency was full of little cliques and little kingdoms and lots of petty bickering and internecine nonsense.

I almost re-enlisted, but by that time my dad was sick as hell and it was a cinch that he was gonna need me around and not running around out in the woods somewhere with my fellow maniacs. So that was it...

But still... lifer or no, the 82nd Airborne Division made an indelible impression on me, and despite the occasional hardships of military life, I look back on those years and feel so very lucky to have served with those guys... I think I was in awe of them all along, so when they said that I was now a fully-fledged trooper and one of their guys... wow, man. It was like winning the lottery or something. I will never forget that day!

Like I said: the 82nd took a huge chunk of my heart away. I almost wept openly when they showed up in New Orleans after the deluge of Katrina, I was so proud of them.

Wow, Vinnie... it was one hell of a thing to have served in such a unit. Unforgettable.

I always was one lucky dog. Hell, after I got that 82nd tattoo, I forgot all about the Green Berets and all that stuff. It was just kind of a footnote, really. There are times when I almost don't like to mention SF school, because ultimately I was never really a true member of my group. Instead, I was just... around. Rakin' rocks. :laugh2:

I was in the 82nd Airborne, my brother... and that's exactly where I should have been all along.

No shit, man: if I'd known then what I know now, I just would have signed up for the 82nd to begin with.

--R :thumb:
 
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Thanks, bud! :thumb:



Great job, man! Very happy to learn that you're not in the kind of pain I knew you to be suffering...

A question: are you still doing your Tai Chi exercises? As I recall, you had success and a really noticeable easement of pain and stiffness in your knees back when we got you going on that stuff...

Either way, though: I'm very happy to hear that you not only lost weight, but that it also made a real difference in your daily life.

Drive on, brother!

--R :thumb:
I did it up until things started feeling much better and then I stopped. I can never thank you enough for turning me on to that!!

I got yanked out of retirement again and have been doing heavy lifting and yoga moves while working.

Doing a lot of fascia, soffit and gutter work. Kinda keeping me in shape...or killing me, not sure which. :)

(I've passed those videos you sent me on to many people and have heard some success stories with them. Everybody should do that shit!)
 

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I did it up until things started feeling much better and then I stopped. I can never thank you enough for turning me on to that!!

I got yanked out of retirement again and have been doing heavy lifting and yoga moves while working.

Doing a lot of fascia, soffit and gutter work. Kinda keeping me in shape...or killing me, not sure which. :)

(I've passed those videos you sent me on to many people and have heard some success stories with them. Everybody should do that shit!)

Wow, no wonder you're hurtin' some. Hands over your head all day long, teetering around on ladders, weird positions you end up in because you're on that ladder to begin with...

I'm very glad that you did get relief from the exercises. There's a very good reason that Tai Chi is so popular all around the world... it's because it is a *very* benign form of exercise, and moving meditation as well. I've known guys who got into Tai Chi in a big way who ended up going off to Cloud Cuckoo Land, because they learned to enter into what I will loosely refer to here as a "trance state", and the temptation to remain in that state of ethereal bliss is quite strong. You're just one big, gooey mass of endorphins when you get to that level in Tai Chi. It's amazing!

I'm hoping that things continue to lighten up for you in the ouch department, Tim. You be real careful at work, man... I know guys who do the same kind of work for a living, and it's no joke. You can get hurt pretty easily, and there's only about ten thousand ways to end up like that.

Stay strong, man.

--R :thumb:
 

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