Mustang III V2 without computer

[ridethatbike]

I've come up with an all purpose Marshall patch that suits most of what I want.
I ended up selling my Marshall DSL40C because the little Fender out-Marshalled it to my ears.

This is of great interest to me, as I was looking to get a DSL40C to compliment my M3v2. I get some awesome tones out of the M3, but I worry sometimes that a tube amp would be better with pedals. I'm just a home player with the occasional guitar jam session, so volume isn't an issue. I typically run stuff low/medium gain, and all I have now is a BFE Honey Bee OD, although I'd love to get a Greer Southland and an Xotic EP, plus some Leslie pedal and Emma Discumbobulator.

So I guess this is a two-fold question...would I be getting anything by getting the Marshall and am I missing out without having tubes for my pedals?

 

[Nickel Zens]

This link was posted on another forum i'm on, I haven't bought the item but thought it was worth a look..
Although 6,000+ presets seems a bit overwhelming/overkill if you're just looking for a few easy to load and go sounds.

Fender Mustang Amplifier I II III IV V 1 2 3 4 5 Presets Fuse Huge Time Saver | eBay

Its not much of a time saver believe me! you are better just going to the Fuse community and downloading what u want rather than wasting a day trying to sort the good from the crap! I am one the mugs who bought itLOL

 

[FFXIhealer]

So I guess this is a two-fold question...would I be getting anything by getting the Marshall and am I missing out without having tubes for my pedals?

You'd be getting a real-life, honest-to-God Marshall amp.

No, you're not really missing anything for the pedals. But I will say this though, being a modelling amp, you CAN overload the input into the DSP. That means you can push the front of the amp so hard (from pedals) that the input Analog-to-Digital converter begins to clip. And that's not a good sound. Trust EVERYONE who has ever talked shit about digital clipping on this one. Do not overload the Mustang's input. It doesn't damage the amp, but it does sound like shite. As long as you don't do that, everything else is pretty much gravy.

Overloading the front of a tube amp, however, is a common pass-time. Hell, that's the whole point of a "clean boost" like the TubeScreamer.

The differences would be that you get a VERY wide tonal range from a modelling amp. With the Marshall DSL, you get a very good Marshall, but that's it. No matter what you do to it, it will always just be a Marshall. Good clean, GREAT dirt. But no Fender. No Mesa. No Peavey. No Orange.

....wait, did I just confuse this thread with another one?

 

[SteveC]

Ironically, I've gigged my M-III for a couple years and now I'm ready to move away from it.

If you gig covers, you need a lot of presets (think pedals in an amp). I have over 300 presets. I load them up, in order, based on the current set list. A typical gig requires sometimes 60+ different presets. It changes from gig to gig and then when we rearrange the set list, it changes order again.

Lotta work.

How one could do that with out a computer, is beyond me.

 

[Pop1655]

picked one up yesterday
so far, so good

 

[chasenblues]

Its not much of a time saver believe me! you are better just going to the Fuse community and downloading what u want rather than wasting a day trying to sort the good from the crap! I am one the mugs who bought itLOL

Thats what i did and tweaked those to what i wanted.

 

[journeymb]

I have a mustang 1 (v1) and recently bought the 3 v2. I used my laptop with the 1, after owning it for a year. I used it to see what it was like and it wasn't bad. I haven't used my laptop with the 3 yet and I'm in no rush. Some of the presets do need tweaking. The one i'm using now, 21, is called Fusion Lead, based on a fender super sonic. I tweaked it a little and it's my main distortion sound. It works good without a laptop and fuse tweaking, but if you want to explore that, it's kinda cool/fun.

I've played it live only once so far, and honestly, i dont know if the speaker wasnt broken in yet, but it didn't sound too great. Maybe it would sound better miked through pa. But by itself, to me, it didn't sound too good. The cleans sound kinda better. I'm sure you'll like it!

 

[Nickel Zens]

Thats what i did and tweaked those to what i wanted.

I tweaked them too, but it was still no Time Saver!

 

[guitar_randy]

I have the 3 v2, and I never use the computer to tweak it at all. You can the same , but more to your liking with the controls on the amp.
Its a bit too processed sounding amp for my tastes though. It can muddle through,but not very authentic sounding with most of the tones it is supposed to be replicating.I think people want a do all amp that will supply them with every type of tone you'd want all in one amp by making quick adjustments. In theory ,that sounds awsome. But in reality, you get processed tones that attempt to mimic the real deal.
I guess it all depends on how picky you are with your tone, but its my belief if you want to sound like a specific amp, nothing is like the real amp. Nothing.
If you are content with something that sounds "sort of" like it ,it may appease you.

 

[guitar_randy]

I have the 3 v2, and I never use the computer to tweak it at all. You can the same , but more to your liking with the controls on the amp.
Its a bit too processed sounding amp for my tastes though. It can muddle through,but not very authentic sounding with most of the tones it is supposed to be replicating.I think people want a do all amp that will supply them with every type of tone you'd want all in one amp by making quick adjustments. In theory ,that sounds awsome. But in reality, you get processed tones that attempt to mimic the real deal.
I guess it all depends on how picky you are with your tone, but its my belief if you want to sound like a specific amp, nothing is like the real amp. Nothing.
If you are content with something that sounds "sort of" like it ,it may appease you.


edit=I don't know how I landed on this post and failed to check the date before replying. So it appears I replied to an old post somehow. Oops.

 

[Pop1655]

Wow! Bringing back memories.
After several months with one I happen to agree with just about all you say.
If you're going to own a Mustang, I do think the III V2 is definitely the one to own.
I've gotten real comfortable doing all my adjustments on the face.
I've got several dirty channels that to me sound just fine.
I've got a couple of clean settings that I've tweaked to my liking.
For a quick plug and play, I think it's good bang for the buck.
It is time to move on though, and I am shopping.
I'll probably end up keeping it because so many things are just too easy on it.
But you're right, I'm about to embark on a truer tone hunt.
Interesting to see this pop up and interesting read.
Thanks

 

[copperheadroad]

Love the Mutang III V-2
I use the 2 XLR line out going in to my PreSonus 22VSL interface for great recording at any volume .

 

[MusicLaw]

Been using both of my Mustang (v2) Amps for the last 10 months without the PC. Really not much of a problem at all except for a few features that are only available via Fender FUSE, like: FX Signal Chain Repositioning, Custom Noise Gate on some of the Amp models, Bright Switch on some Amp models, and Preset Backup to the PC. The LCD panel and Data Wheel on the MIII/IV/V does a teriffic job! The real magic is in the deep Advanced Amp Button Page 2 parameters. Depending on the amp model, this is where the the Sag, Bias, Noise Gate, Cabinet Simulation, Gain 2, Vol 2, Presence, and other features are. These are what really allow you to customize the way the Mustang sounds and responds!

In July 2015 a new Android App named: Remuda, was introduced. Created by a Mustang owner, it gives full preset editing and amp control via an Android smartphone or Tablet. It has drag and drop preset repositioning, presets sorted by name or number, and a really cool performance mode where your Amp Presets can be assigned to Songs in Set Lists. The App swaps the footswitch Quick Access preset buttons as you select each song! You can find it in the Google Play App Store.

 

[MusicLaw]

For us Mustang v2 users with Android devices, there is a newly enhanced Remuda version 1.2 that was released tonight. It also has new features.

 

[Fireproof]

Hey folks - rather than start a new thread - thought I might add my question here.

I just picked up a used Mustang III v2 from a CL ad.

Question: What's the best way to set up new presets in terms of the VOLUME of the amp vs. the Master Volume on the Mustang? When I browse through the stock presets - they vary widely in terms of volume between presets, and some presets are dang LOUD even though my Master Volume is only on 2.

So I figured I'd setup some new presets. But it doesn't look like I can get a cranked amp sound at low volumes, but maybe I'm missing something. (Granted - I've only had about 15 minutes to mess with it, LOL).

 

[kevinpaul]

Most of the settings it comes with suck. Down load Fender Fuse and look at something you will like. There are so many presets that are the same. I do 100 per page to pass to the better ones. Read the book and all the stuff on Fuse and that will be of great help. You can change pre sets as often as you want. Fool around with the amp to get the feel of it.

 

[Fireproof]

Thanks bud. It's been a long day so I'll try FUSE tomorrow when I'm fresh. I'm a bit brain dead right now.

I just read on Fender's forum that the Volume knob is only for the volume level of the preset (it's not the power-amp volume of the amp being simulated). That's a bit confusing - but that tells me I can use that volume knob to turn down the loudness of some of those freakin' loud presets that I kind of like otherwise.

But I look forward to checking out the Fuse community and other presets and such.

 

[Pop1655]

I'm the original complainer here who didn't want to mess with fuse, but fact is you do need to dedicate an afternoon on fuse to get yourself lined out. After that it does become optional, especially on the III V2. You can get the over driven at low volume once you get the settings right. It also takes a while to really understand and learn how to operate the "wheel" and the adjustments available on the digital box on the amp itself. This took me a while to master, but once done it became 2nd nature and I never went back to fuse again. I remember the frustrations of day one. I was not happy. Once you get your base settings right and learn how to use the wheel, it's a new world.

 

[FFXIhealer]

Hey folks - rather than start a new thread - thought I might add my question here.

I just picked up a used Mustang III v2 from a CL ad.

Question: What's the best way to set up new presets in terms of the VOLUME of the amp vs. the Master Volume on the Mustang? When I browse through the stock presets - they vary widely in terms of volume between presets, and some presets are dang LOUD even though my Master Volume is only on 2.

So I figured I'd setup some new presets. But it doesn't look like I can get a cranked amp sound at low volumes, but maybe I'm missing something. (Granted - I've only had about 15 minutes to mess with it, LOL).

If you're new to the Fender Mustang amps, then have a go at this thread:

Fender® Forums • View topic - Fender Mustang Controls and FUSE

I started it there with TONS of useful information on how to use the amp and what does what.

 

[jtees4]

Yes, generally start with the master down low....then set all your pre set volumes with the volume knob, get them where you want them in relation to each other. Then use the master to make everything as loud as you need whether you are playing at low volume or turn it up for a band. Generally my clean pre sets are turned up to 10 on the volume and the others not so much.
As far as fuse....you don't need it for much BUT their are certain things you can only do with Fuse. I have a MIII v1 so I don't know if it's the same but the big one for me is, I like to use the compressor as a clean boost for leads SO to do that the order of the fx have to be changed which can only be done in Fuse. There are other things also, like specific nise reduction settings and others. I love my MIII and eventually want to get a v2 also. Good luck.