thanks for the reply. ..check out the me 80 you will see the reverb knob in the top right hand corner, it is a 4 field thing, and they are never good. Am I missing something, surely you can get more reverb than that one knob? Can you use a delay to get a nice reverb sound?I'm still successfully using the old Boss ME8 from 1996!! Can be got for less than one effect pedal.