Luthier's Corner Plans / Templates Resource

Bainzy

Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
31
Reaction score
15
Has anyone managed to get the Gold Standard plans printed successfully in the UK? The plans being in inches is posing a bit of a problem as it's in between A0 and A1 size.

Local places seem to be disappearing thick and fast, and everywhere online I've come across only accepts ISO A0 A1 etc size documents and will increase the PDF to fit instead of printing it at 1:1 scale.
 
Joined
Jul 27, 2020
Messages
35
Reaction score
16
Has anyone managed to get the Gold Standard plans printed successfully in the UK? The plans being in inches is posing a bit of a problem as it's in between A0 and A1 size.

Local places seem to be disappearing thick and fast, and everywhere online I've come across only accepts ISO A0 A1 etc size documents and will increase the PDF to fit instead of printing it at 1:1 scale.
yes got it done no problem local print shop, just took it on a pen printed out fine, you'd probably get it done at staples
 

pshupe

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 19, 2012
Messages
5,461
Reaction score
5,637
Has anyone managed to get the Gold Standard plans printed successfully in the UK? The plans being in inches is posing a bit of a problem as it's in between A0 and A1 size.

Local places seem to be disappearing thick and fast, and everywhere online I've come across only accepts ISO A0 A1 etc size documents and will increase the PDF to fit instead of printing it at 1:1 scale.

Why not just say print 1:1. Units shouldn't matter. Frankly, even if they were metric units you would want them to print them 1:1.

I could easily make a metric version.

Regards Peter.
 

the great waldo

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 5, 2010
Messages
437
Reaction score
248
Has anyone managed to get the Gold Standard plans printed successfully in the UK? The plans being in inches is posing a bit of a problem as it's in between A0 and A1 size.

Local places seem to be disappearing thick and fast, and everywhere online I've come across only accepts ISO A0 A1 etc size documents and will increase the PDF to fit instead of printing it at 1:1 scale.
[/QUOTE
Go to a print shop that does printing for Architects. The places you are going to haven't a clue what they are doing if they can't print 1 to 1

Maybe this lot might help
Cheers
Andrew
 

Bainzy

Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
31
Reaction score
15
Thanks guys and yes I agree Peter, even within Adobe reader you can change from imperial to metric. It's just odd how all the online suppliers in printing I came across refuse to print 1:1 and insist on lazily clicking the print button always set to "scale to paper size". Your link looks like they are more flexible Andrew, but the price for just 1 page at a custom size (assuming they print it right without borders) comes to over £10.

I don't live in the middle of nowhere, I'm near the major city of Bradford but over time print shops have either closed or seem to specialise in T shirt and commercial advertisement printing, rather than anything requiring accuracy. There used to be a big Staples outlet, but that went a few years ago when Staples sold off their loss making UK retail outlets and went online and B2B only.

Worst case scenario I can probably find somewhere in Leeds, I think this is just one of those areas of life where it still is really better to talk to someone to make sure you get what you need. I might ring up a few of these online only places and see if I can get to talk to a human being.
 

Bainzy

Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
31
Reaction score
15
Found somewhere - click-post.co.uk . I might give them a try and see how I get on, they only do folded postage but they specifically give you an option to print at 100% 1:1 scale.
 

pshupe

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 19, 2012
Messages
5,461
Reaction score
5,637
Thanks guys and yes I agree Peter, even within Adobe reader you can change from imperial to metric. It's just odd how all the online suppliers in printing I came across refuse to print 1:1 and insist on lazily clicking the print button always set to "scale to paper size". Your link looks like they are more flexible Andrew, but the price for just 1 page at a custom size (assuming they print it right without borders) comes to over £10.

I don't live in the middle of nowhere, I'm near the major city of Bradford but over time print shops have either closed or seem to specialise in T shirt and commercial advertisement printing, rather than anything requiring accuracy. There used to be a big Staples outlet, but that went a few years ago when Staples sold off their loss making UK retail outlets and went online and B2B only.

Worst case scenario I can probably find somewhere in Leeds, I think this is just one of those areas of life where it still is really better to talk to someone to make sure you get what you need. I might ring up a few of these online only places and see if I can get to talk to a human being.

Search large format printing. Or find an Architect or Engineering firm and ask them where they get their large format drawings printed. Most firms these days don't own large format printers as they go away from hard copies in favour of pdfs. This means when they do need hard copies they need a service. I would not trust any service that prints "fit to page".

Regards Peter.
 

rockgod212

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 5, 2012
Messages
348
Reaction score
161
ok i finally took these gold standard plans to office max and had them printed. something odd happened when i had them print to 1:1 or 100% or whatever they were supposed to be printed at. the body length measured under 17" when it was marked for about 17.33" so after some trial and error with the settings at the print shop we finally got them printed at 101% which put the body at exactly 17 3/8" just a tad oversized perfect for sanding down a bit. i have lots of mdf for the body templates and some 3/4" birch ply for the carve templates. time to start making some templates.

just out of curiousity what do you guys use to bond the paper to the mdf? i have some spray adhesive.
 

nuance97

Silver Supporting Member
Joined
Feb 25, 2009
Messages
2,834
Reaction score
2,439
ok i finally took these gold standard plans to office max and had them printed. something odd happened when i had them print to 1:1 or 100% or whatever they were supposed to be printed at. the body length measured under 17" when it was marked for about 17.33" so after some trial and error with the settings at the print shop we finally got them printed at 101% which put the body at exactly 17 3/8" just a tad oversized perfect for sanding down a bit. i have lots of mdf for the body templates and some 3/4" birch ply for the carve templates. time to start making some templates.

just out of curiousity what do you guys use to bond the paper to the mdf? i have some spray adhesive.
I use spray adhesive
 

rockgod212

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 5, 2012
Messages
348
Reaction score
161
ok thanx for info, i will use that then.........after thinking about it for awhile i took the files back to the printer and same thing happened at 100% too short on body length, so i had them try 100.5% and they printed perfectly to the correct size, this time i brought some measuring tools with me triple check everything.
 

cmjohnson

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 12, 2012
Messages
2,680
Reaction score
2,268
Just be aware that not every printer prints exactly to size spec. I've had prints made of files that were digitally exact but different printers gave different sized prints even though they were supposed to print at 100 percent size.

I quote from a conversation at the Autodesk forum:
Likely it's not Revit that is the issue....it's your printer. Some printers will not print to the edge of a sheet of paper, and if you have a line at the edge of your titleblock that represents the edge of the sheet, the printer will "force" this inside the margin of the printer, thus reducing the scale of your print. I would remove any linework that is a rectangle at 24x36. You don't need a line that represents the paper size. Then Print to "Zoom 100%" in Revit, not Fit to Page. You *may* have to use the "offset from corner" settings to position the sheet where you need. Check your printer settings as well...can you set the paper margins to 0"? Ultimately our software doesn't do anything we don't tell it to do.
 

pshupe

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 19, 2012
Messages
5,461
Reaction score
5,637
I put bar scales both horizontally and vertically on all my digital guitar plans. That way I can be sure I am getting them printed exactly to scale.
Capture.JPG


Cheers Peter.
 

Mike-g

Junior Member
Joined
Mar 27, 2021
Messages
16
Reaction score
26
Hey guys, hopefully this thread isn't too stale and hopefully my question isn't too silly.

For my next build I want to try a Les Paul (first was a dbl cut Jr. and im working on a tele for # 2 right now). Looking at the Neck plans posted by @nuance97 on the first page of this thread, I notice that there is not a lip where the heel cap meets the tenon. Not sure if that's the correct terminology or not. but when I do google image searches of the Les Paul tenon there's almost always a lip there, and they seem to be all different sizes.

was there a standard on that or rule of thumb or am I just nit picking and looking for things to worry about?
 

nuance97

Silver Supporting Member
Joined
Feb 25, 2009
Messages
2,834
Reaction score
2,439
Hey guys, hopefully this thread isn't too stale and hopefully my question isn't too silly.

For my next build I want to try a Les Paul (first was a dbl cut Jr. and im working on a tele for # 2 right now). Looking at the Neck plans posted by @nuance97 on the first page of this thread, I notice that there is not a lip where the heel cap meets the tenon. Not sure if that's the correct terminology or not. but when I do google image searches of the Les Paul tenon there's almost always a lip there, and they seem to be all different sizes.

was there a standard on that or rule of thumb or am I just nit picking and looking for things to worry about?
‘50s LPs had no lip/cheek/whatever you wanna call it in that location. Modern ones do. The pics you’re seeing online are not vintage Les Paul necks that have that third cheek…
 

Colorado Blue

Junior Member
Joined
Oct 22, 2009
Messages
14
Reaction score
0
Sorry if this has already been asked, but are all of these templates, including the carve templates, designed to be used with flush trim bits (as opposed to using a bushing screwed into the router base plate)?

As always, thank you very much for your generosity of time and talent!
 


Latest Threads



Top