Looking for guidance - 1977 Les Paul Standard

vaguely

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2016
Messages
174
Reaction score
195
I'm gonna throw my endorsement behind checking those pickups as a deal-maker or breaker. If value is forefront in your concern over this acquisition, you need to know if that thing is correct. if those pickups are not what they're supposed to be (rings look off, I agree) then bail on that price and rethink the deal. if the 3k is NOT the end-all be-all concern for you and you love the guitar, then f-k, go for it! you only live once! overthinking the market and investment can really take the fun out of the straight physical enjoyment of the instrument, but not everyone can be cavalier with their spending, so I sympathize with your concern. hope that's of some help. that guitar looks awesome by the way, I dig!
 

fishbeiner

Junior Member
Joined
Oct 27, 2010
Messages
21
Reaction score
24
Well, I brought it home. Turns out the seller was a little bit negotiable. Also, turns out he was very honest as well.

The shielding on the back cover looked like it had never been taken off before, or at least not in a long time. There was some white residue on the screw heads that looked like it sat there for a while.

Date codes on the pots put them ‘77. Solder joints look untouched. Also, and perhaps, I’m wrong, but it looks like it may be one piece mahogany based on the unpainted hole where the wiring from inside the control cavity passes. I don’t see any sign of the pancake construction.

I do see faintly through the paint on the neck, the three pieces there though.

And... the pickups are original to the guitar. Hard to tell from the photos, but the plastics are definitely aged. The underside of the pickups have “PAT NO 2,737,842” stamped on them with a faint stamp “AUG 12 1977. That makes them T-Buckers.

Overall, I’m very happy with the purchase. It’s exactly what I have been looking for and a keeper for sure.

Thank you all for your help! It was very useful and much appreciated.

D245AF18-C912-42CA-BA63-5517AF89D84C.jpeg
FBED7248-3899-4F98-86E8-AFAEAE13E31C.jpeg
0DA2DDE3-7674-4563-AC64-6A2DA067596F.jpeg
F1F7DC64-65ED-4BD0-A951-2CB32D90DDDD.jpeg
71D03D8F-D120-401C-B8A3-84D6833E32D0.jpeg
9BA2362A-A674-40E5-A79C-E1DDDA87D1CC.jpeg
 

Shelkonnery

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2021
Messages
186
Reaction score
371
That's awesome!
It even came with the original ashtray cover for the wiring.
Glad to hear it went well.
Congrats on the amazing guitar!
Enjoy it in good health, brother! :cheers:
 

JMP

Senior Member
Joined
Aug 9, 2019
Messages
1,085
Reaction score
1,345
Congratulations. That’s a nice score and it’s in great condition. I dig the color a lot. I hope you enjoy it for a very long time.
 

sparky2

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 28, 2012
Messages
134
Reaction score
279
Fishbeiner, you did really well on that purchase.

Fjestad's Blue Book has a 1977 Gibson Les Paul Standard priced at $2,750 in Mint Condition.

As others have stated, this one isn't Mint, but it does appear to be in really great shape, and the all-original bits are a huge bonus.

If you paid less than the asking price of $3,000, I would say that everyone's a winner here.

:applause:
 

Sparkyshows

Member
Joined
Feb 18, 2012
Messages
60
Reaction score
53
Looks absolutely gorgeous!
congrats and enjoy!
you will have to keep us posted on your thoughts and impressions as you get to know it.
 

mudface

Boo Bee
Double Platinum Supporting Member
Joined
Aug 29, 2016
Messages
11,038
Reaction score
33,455
Excellent find.....congrats........enjoy in good health.:cheers:

There's probably a host of info under that ground/shield plate in the control cavity.

From the date on the pickups it would make this one of latest with a decal serial number....most were done with the pressed stamp serial used like today by this time in 1977.......cool.
 

HardCore Troubadour

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 17, 2012
Messages
11,380
Reaction score
11,517
That was a good buy especially if you got him down a little...congratulations and welcome to the club!!
 

TheRoadToHull

Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2020
Messages
39
Reaction score
32
That looks fantastic! Although I usually hate black guitars, I would so like a LP Standard in black - the cream binding and plastic, the chrome hardware and the gold knobs set it off perfectly.

(The only other black guitar I would consider is a 4001/4003 bass)
 

JonnySledge

Junior Member
Joined
May 29, 2009
Messages
11
Reaction score
6
I like it. The maple necked LPs with volutes are strong, stable, and give it a punchy, twangier tone that is like a Tele on steroids with the bridge T-Top pickup. The neck pickup will likely have a little more presence than PAF/Mahogany examples, making it more useful in many band situations, imo, unless your playing smooth jazz. Don't worry the "woman tone" will be there when you roll the tone knob down. That guitar should be an amazing rocker, maintaining cut and clarity when overdriving an amp. Regarding the pickup surrounds, I've seen some creams from that era not discolor much while others have can yellow a lot. It's not uncommon to see a yellowed bridge surround with a nearly new looking neck surround on the same guitar. I have that on my '79 and they are original.
 

mrblooze

Member
Joined
Dec 28, 2012
Messages
53
Reaction score
47
Well, I brought it home. Turns out the seller was a little bit negotiable. Also, turns out he was very honest as well.

The shielding on the back cover looked like it had never been taken off before, or at least not in a long time. There was some white residue on the screw heads that looked like it sat there for a while.

Date codes on the pots put them ‘77. Solder joints look untouched. Also, and perhaps, I’m wrong, but it looks like it may be one piece mahogany based on the unpainted hole where the wiring from inside the control cavity passes. I don’t see any sign of the pancake construction.

I do see faintly through the paint on the neck, the three pieces there though.

And... the pickups are original to the guitar. Hard to tell from the photos, but the plastics are definitely aged. The underside of the pickups have “PAT NO 2,737,842” stamped on them with a faint stamp “AUG 12 1977. That makes them T-Buckers.

Overall, I’m very happy with the purchase. It’s exactly what I have been looking for and a keeper for sure.

Thank you all for your help! It was very useful and much appreciated.

View attachment 535888 View attachment 535887 View attachment 535889 View attachment 535890 View attachment 535891 View attachment 535892
Congratulations! She's a beauty! As someone else mentioned, prices are all up due to the COVID thing, so indexes like Blue Books are out of date during this bubble. Prices may go back down, but they may not, and if you had hesitated, you might've lost out on The One. Good onya! And good to know that you met an honest decent seller. Most of us have been the seller, at one point, and looked at that way, the seller isn't the enemy... It's us. If both of you think you got a good deal, then regardless of price, it probably was.

And while there is definitely a difference in the tone of T-Tops from PAFs, they don't deserve the bad rep they had back in the day (I think that attitudes have come around a lot, over the years, and folks are starting to appreciate them for what they are, instead of just always comparing them unfavorably with PAFs.). With the right set up and amp, they have a voice all their own. I hope you love it!

Congrats again!
 

zdoggie

Senior Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2015
Messages
322
Reaction score
117
if you want it jump on it its gotta be better than whats coming out of the factory by todays standards
zdog
 

dasherf17

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 18, 2020
Messages
525
Reaction score
255
It does appear that this one doesn’t have the original mini humbuckers and was routed for full sized humbuckers. For resale a person wanting an all original guitar will pass on it. Just my opinion as I’m new to the vintage market.
Was '77 the year for Deluxes only?
 

dasherf17

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 18, 2020
Messages
525
Reaction score
255
Thank you for the information. Learning more every day.
Playing the part of the DA (an' I ain't talkin' district attorney), if you're looking for a decent Les Paul, knowing that this one is so close to toal accurate and are within a couple hundred of the top going price...I would spring for it, let's just say that. It a '70s guitar, prices have skyrocketed, it's there, you're there, do it...examine it from home, enjoy your NGD!
DO IT!:dude::applause::headbanger:
 

HardCore Troubadour

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 17, 2012
Messages
11,380
Reaction score
11,517
I was done 2 days before you posted this....you District Attorney!

:rofl:

Playing the part of the DA (an' I ain't talkin' district attorney), if you're looking for a decent Les Paul, knowing that this one is so close to toal accurate and are within a couple hundred of the top going price...I would spring for it, let's just say that. It a '70s guitar, prices have skyrocketed, it's there, you're there, do it...examine it from home, enjoy your NGD!
DO IT!:dude::applause::headbanger:
 


Latest Threads



Top