Les Paul Traditional Questions

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Can some of you school me on the Traditional? There are several models. From my understanding, (at least in 2013) some models were weight relieved, and some weren't. What I am looking for is a Standard-type LP, as close to the "late 50s sound" as possible, with no weight relief at all. I'd prefer a '50s neck as well. My understanding is that in 2013 one of these models fits all or most of the above criteria. Which one is it? Are all of that model since 2013 non weight-relieved, or did they go back to weight relief in 2014 and after? I realize my questions are a little confusing. I just want to know what years besides just 2013 I should be looking at in this lineup? I appreciate it.
 

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The 2013 and 2014 Traditionals were not weight relieved. They had 50’s necks. Any Trad from those years with a 60’s neck isn’t a Trad, it’s a Trad Plus or Trad 2, etc. and is probably weight relieved. There are other years without weight relief since then. I’m sure other members will chime in.
 

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If non weight relieved is important to you look for a 2013 or 2014.

For what it's worth, I've owned a number of Traditionals ranging from 2012 to 2016 and they were all excellent guitars, every one of them. The sound varied depending on the weight, of which weight relief only contributes a couple ounces and I'd wager is near impossible to quantify. I played and worked on hundreds more through my past job and found most of them to be excellent guitars as well.

All I'm saying is, why limit yourself to a couple model years? It'll be easier to find one if you look for any year, plus you can find great finishes some years that you can't find other years.
 

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I’d have to agree on the 2017 models. They are non-weight relieved but seem to be lighter than the earlier traditionals. Specs are like a poor man’s R9 with a neck between 50s and 60s, ABR bridge and tailpiece, top hats, knob pointers, etc. Great guitars.

I have one in Heritage Cherry Sunburst and it is 8 lbs 4 oz. Love it.
 

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I am guessing there are models between 2013 and now that ARE weight relieved, correct?
 

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I think the last few years of the Traditional were non-weight relieved. I was looking at a 2019 that was advertised as such.
 

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2008 to 2012 have 9 hole weight relief.

2013 to 2015 No Weight Relief - Full Solid Body

2016 have 9 hole weight relief.

2017 to 2019 No Weight Relief - Full Solid Body
 

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Trads are rad! Try some out if you can and buy the one you like.
 

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It'll be a while before I make any more guitar purchases. But when I do, a Traditional is more than likely next on the list.
 

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It'll be a while before I make any more guitar purchases. But when I do, a Traditional is more than likely next on the list.

Have you considered a new 50s Standard? I don't believe they're weight relieved, 50s neck, 50s pickups, great finishes.
 

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Have you considered a new 50s Standard? I don't believe they're weight relieved, 50s neck, 50s pickups, great finishes.
Yes, I have. A friend has one, and it plays and sounds very nice. Which brings me to the last question I am going to bother you guys with. Is there ANY difference between the guitar you are describing, and a non-weight-relieved Traditional?
 

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Yes, I have. A friend has one, and it plays and sounds very nice. Which brings me to the last question I am going to bother you guys with. Is there ANY difference between the guitar you are describing, and a non-weight-relieved Traditional?

I have an '18 Traditional and a '19 Wildwood '50s Standard and they are very, very similar. The binding is a bit thinner and a different color on the '50s Standard, it comes with an amber switch tip instead of white or cream on the '18 Traditional (which is about 10 seconds to change if it matters to you), I believe the headstock is a little smaller and more "historically accurate" on the '50s Standard, and they also have different neck carves.

Overall, I prefer my '50s Standard to my '18 Traditional, but they are very similar and both are fantastic guitars.
 

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Over the years the Trads neck carve varied. 2013-2014s were larger than the 2008s to 2012s. 2015s had the wider Soloist carve. In 2016 the carves went back to the smaller 2008 / 2012. 2017-2019 I believe stayed the course.
 

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