Les Paul Junior RI 57 SC factory specs

[vishnu]

Gibson's rec spec for electric guitars are.....

12th fret- treble side - 3/64"
12th fret - bass side - 5/64" c/w .010 or .012 beck relief

I can get my LP RI 58 (2014) Historic set up like that ^ with the neck relief a little lower but not my SC Junior. When I get close to factory specs ( I actually favour the factory specs, approx., as it happens) on my Junior (2014) there are multiple dead spots and fret buzz....

Any feedback folks on your own "action" specs on your Junior.....is there any reason why I should not be able to set the specs nice and low as on my 58?

thanks guys

 

[Drewski]

Youve got a high or low fret(s) somewhere. Got a straight edge?

 

[jamman]

More info about the guitar would be helpful . Condition of the frets ??? Is yours a Wrap tail or stop tail ?sorry In don't recall off hand .
As every guitar is different , Set ups are (i find) a fine tuned balance . If 1 part is off/out . effects everything ...
Sometimes , That just what you can get from the guitar ..... I have had to tweak a set up over months(sometimes) to get it where I really like it (action height & relief & intonation).
My understanding is ( I could possibly not understand it correctly) How the neck was set will be a big factor as to what you're able to get for action height .

Have you posted in the builders section ? You might get much better and more replies over there .

 

[vishnu]

frets good and just the regular lightweight alu stop tailpiece ....no groves or anything

the tailpiece sits nice and low....I was just a wonderin' if I could expect the Junior to be set so nice/low and playable as the 58 RI considering the different guitar "architecture "

 

[ARandall]

The core of a guitar is the same, regardless of what type of anchoring the string has......at least in theory.

If the neck is set with the same relief and the nut is cut the same way, the action should be able to get to the same point if the frets are all good. What might change is the compliance of the neck, or a host of intangibles that might make 1 guitar play fractionally differently. I tend to try each guitar with a range of string gauges and see what natural tuning it likes best.

 

[rockinlespaul]

What ARandall said....

 

[alnico59]

The core of a guitar is the same, regardless of what type of anchoring the string has......at least in theory.

If the neck is set with the same relief and the nut is cut the same way, the action should be able to get to the same point if the frets are all good. What might change is the compliance of the neck, or a host of intangibles that might make 1 guitar play fractionally differently. I tend to try each guitar with a range of string gauges and see what natural tuning it likes best.

This ^

I recently had two R's set up with the same measurements as far as string height and relief. Both had the tailpiece cranked down to the body and the same string gauge/brand were used. The results were two different feeling/playing guitars. I'm sure nobody is surprised by this.

 

[jamman]

Could it be (at least in part) 1 is an arched /Carved top(LP) and 1 ain't (Jr.)..... Wouldn't that make everything different ? The Jr. is a wrap tail flat top . IMO , makes a difference.

I'm still going with the frets or a fret as the problem ...

I'd take it to a tech to check it out . imo small things can manifest into bigger issues . Doesn't have to a warn fret either . some may not be sitting correctly .The Nut is another place I'd look at . Slots might be to low or to high to get what you're wanting .... Just a thought ....

 

[ARandall]

Whether the top is carved or not makes no difference to the fundamental equation of a fretboard, nut and bridge unit. It shouldn't change the way the strings or setup acts, but it will make the guitar operate a bit differently in your hands, as the neck angle is different plus your arm will lay over the guitar edge and top in a different way.