- Mar 24, 2010
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Isn't it legal for LEOs to use deception/lies, bullying and trickery during the course of their investigations and interrogations?
I would imagine that being a game warden is one of the more dangerous LEO jobs...everybody they approach is armed and they are generally out in the woods where there are no witnesses. My hats off to Fish & Game officers.
In a lot of circles, that would be considered effective police work. The warden asked consent, the guy gave it, the guy then started to waffle, the warden got a little firm (without force, mind you), the guy changed his mind and cooperated, the bad guy went to jail, the roommate is still a free man.
The street isn't a courtroom, and probable cause for arrest isn't the same standard as proof beyond a reasonable doubt for conviction.
That being said, I realize that there are other circles here and in the world who would consider the above situation an example of a fascist police state ruled with an iron fist by a modern day gestapo. So I guess opinions may vary.
to be fair, anyone in LE has an impossible job. The public wants order yet expects LE to tiptoe to instill that order. Its not easy and its very easy to cross the 4th amendment line. Most people think they have rights they don't and have rights they didn't know about. To further muck it up, search and seizure law is 99.99999% caselaw, which varies widely on states and reverses itself all the time. What one judge found lawful last year, another found a similiar circumstance illegal later on.It's funny how knowing your rights arouses suspicion. I cringe every time I hear "Well if you're not guilty what's the problem?" I've talked through the latch on several occasions, and denied law enforcement entry into my home not because I was hiding anything but because there was no conversation we could have in my house that we couldn't have on my porch.
In general I've found that if you search hard enough, you will find what you're looking for, whether it's there or not. That's enough reason to keep LEO on the porch right there as far as I'm concerned. Use my phone? Show me a court order. Am I hiding anything? What kind of question is that? Am I under arrest? Can I be of any further assistance? Thank you have a nice day!
The only time I lose respect for law enforcement is when they forget that we are all just citizens with the same rights across the board. Wearing a badge and carrying a gun doesn't make you better, and certainly not smarter...
its a case of...... "if you done nothing wrong........ you ain't nothing to be scared of!"