Karen - this years model.

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...Maybe my car had something to do with it, but I mean C'MON, MAN!

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Dude's credit card has a dude's name on it and the staff refer to him as a dude is somehow someone else's problem? Go f*** your self, sh*t bag. I could care less how anyone identifies. However, forcing that on others is not appropriate.
THIS!!!

If you wanna be Loretta instead of Larry, at least make the minimal effort to legally change your name? Seems reasonable.right? I dont care if you have your weiner inverted into a psuedo-vaj cuntraption or not. If you dont wanna be called Bruce anymore, dont give me ID that says your name is Bruce. And shave your fucking beard. Thank you SIR
 

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People have such little worth today. Want self worth? Get a job and work hard, and pretty soon you won't have time for this gender-uniqueness horsehit. Something in life got'chya feeling' down from time to time? Yeah, that's called normal; everyone gets that way sometimes. Most of us don't snap off an get all weird in the tits over it though.

Freaks of nature? No problem. It happens, we've all seen a lady with a moustache or some beardage.
Freaks of science compounded by schizophrenia? Get some help, and keep that shite out of our schools.
 
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I was attacked by a Karen for the first time last 4th of July.

I was driving around town looking for fireworks displays to watch over the trees. I was scooting about 5MPH through public parking lots with my headlights off so I could see, and some lady pulled up along side of me and told me my headlights were off. I said "thanks, I thought they were on". And then she said "They're probably broken". And that's when a red flag went up, but I still had no idea. I said, "well, I don't think that's the case, but thanks for letting me know". And as I started to drive off she yelled "you need to pull over and shut your car off".

I kept on driving. I still didn't understand, but knew something was weird. She was just some baggy thing, looked like she was in her 50's, plain ordinary car. Couldn't figure out WTF just happened.

And then all of a sudden it hit me: OMG, WAS THAT A REAL LIVE "KAREN"?? Wholly crap, I was just attacked by one of these things in real life (like, NOT on YouTube)!
So, sticking her fat nose into your shit, uninvited. With snotty, aggressive commentary, as if her baggy, drooping ass mattered to you in the slightest.

Yep, Karen.
 

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Prehistoric versions of the stereotypical Karen existed. Bobbed, "easy-care" hairdo, capri-style "pedal pusher" pants (not yoga pants like today) and cheap, plain no-iron blouse. Attitude of "needs to be into or have a vote in or valued opinion of" everybody's thing or business . Drove off her husband, now desperate to hang on to "chick" status, but that boat left the harbor years ago . Once upon a time being mildly attractive, she's perpetually pissed off that men don't look at her anymore, so she has no power.

She's got the house when the husband ran for his life, two grown kids that never see her, avoiding her psycho "mommy dearest" screeching rants and fantasy problems and delusional made-up untruths and outright fabrications. Lying is perfectly okay, as long as she gets her way in the process. A true and total Machiavellian.

Don't ever for any reason work for this woman, remodel her house, contract with her, whatever. If you see her, run (not walk) the other way.

If you engage this person, you will lose. Because she is willing to lie, cheat, steal, confiscate your tools or other possessions, lie to the cops and fill out a total fantasy of a police report, even shit herself right in those Capri pants to come away with what in her mind is a "win" of some kind, no matter how twisted or distorted it may be.

They are out there, and they all look and seem the same.

Wide open, wild crazy-eyes too.

Avoid like the plague.
 

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I don't care what a person's sexual persuasion is, I just don't want to hear about it. I don't go up to every person I encounter and get in their face about being proud I'm heterosexual. I expect the same common sense respect to me that I show them. It should be of no interest whatsoever to anyone what your "gender" is. You are just not that interesting and your lack of sense about your sexuality does not make you any more interesting.
 

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Prehistoric versions of the stereotypical Karen existed.

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Don't ever for any reason work for this woman, remodel her house, contract with her, whatever. If you see her, run (not walk) the other way.

If you engage this person, you will lose. Because she is willing to lie, cheat, steal, confiscate your tools or other possessions, lie to the cops and fill out a total fantasy of a police report, even shit herself right in those Capri pants to come away with what in her mind is a "win" of some kind, no matter how twisted or distorted it may be.
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Wide open, wild crazy-eyes too.

Avoid like the plague.

You, sir, are torrect!

Consider the scold's tongue/scold's bridle from the late Middle Ages. Sounds like something for a Karen:
Scold's bridle (Wikipedia)

Some people bitch about sexism or some shit, but men who behave the same way as Karens are despised just as much. We just haven't settled on a standard name. "Ken" seems to be the front-runner, though.

For the KarenKallers, San Francisco has a law complete with a SJW acronym: CAREN Act, Caution Against Racially Exploitative Non-Emergencies. It may a good step, but I worry that someone calling 911 for someone who is truly acting suspiciously could be snared up in a racially-fueled media circus.

Avoiding them like the plague is sound advice. They are as you said, Machiavellian, and have aggressive and sociopathic personalities.

But don't count on the crazy eyes because they often don't show until they are in attack mode, and even then, they often turn into lyin' & cryin' eyes when the cops show up after the KarenKall.
 

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Wait Dave - are you agreeing that she was a Karen, or are you saying I'm being a Ken?
You're golden, pickle. She was inserting herself into your shit and trying to direct or redirect you. This is what Karen's do. They are collective pains in the ass, because they need to "matter", especially when they don't.

She's the Karen, not you.
 

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You, sir, are torrect!

Consider the scold's tongue/scold's bridle from the late Middle Ages. Sounds like something for a Karen:
Scold's bridle (Wikipedia)

Some people bitch about sexism or some shit, but men who behave the same way as Karens are despised just as much. We just haven't settled on a standard name. "Ken" seems to be the front-runner, though.

For the KarenKallers, San Francisco has a law complete with a SJW acronym: CAREN Act, Caution Against Racially Exploitative Non-Emergencies. It may a good step, but I worry that someone calling 911 for someone who is truly acting suspiciously could be snared up in a racially-fueled media circus.

Avoiding them like the plague is sound advice. They are as you said, Machiavellian, and have aggressive and sociopathic personalities.

But don't count on the crazy eyes because they often don't show until they are in attack mode, and even then, they often turn into lyin' & cryin' eyes when the cops show up after the KarenKall.
Being once a kitchen and bath remodeler, I need no introduction to this early form of Karen. I could write a fucking manifesto on them.

"Machievellian" , in that they would almost hack off a body part of their own in order to achieve a "win", even if that win is a figment of their own imagination. Any end justifies any means, no matter how destructive or severe.

There needs to be a comprehensive case study on these women, and some sort of treatment developed. But they would just lie to the analysts, so that's pretty much a waste of time, as is all things concerning Karens.
 

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Being once a kitchen and bath remodeler, I need no introduction to this early form of Karen. I could write a fucking manifesto on them.

"Machievellian" , in that they would almost hack off a body part of their own in order to achieve a "win", even if that win is a figment of their own imagination. Any end justifies any means, no matter how destructive or severe.

There needs to be a comprehensive case study on these women, and some sort of treatment developed. But they would just lie to the analysts, so that's pretty much a waste of time, as is all things concerning Karens.

You are on to something here. One of my early retail jobs in the '80s was as a cashier/clerk at an upscale, boutique-type, electronics and appliances store. The main bulk of the clientele was upper-middle class, so I came across plenty of Karens.

It wasn't until you posted this that I recognized them as Karens. I now see that they come in different forms. It think research would bear that out, which would likely complicate things.

After thinking about it, I guaran-f'kn-tee you that no such research will never be conducted because of the sociopolitical climate. Research professors would be cancelled, and no funding would be available because a lot of people would lose their shit, especially certain people.
 

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A few months back, I was accused of being a Karen because I mentioned asking for a manager.

I think it was maybe tongue-in-cheek, but I have to say that there is a huge difference between demanding/screeching for a manager and telling the poor retail person in a polite way that you want to ask a manager if they can do what the cashier/CSR cannot.

I think LtDave32 would probably agree that the behavior of Karens -- and Kens -- is self-defeating. Flies, honey, vinegar and such. The unkindly customer gets the bare minimum, while the nice customer gets the extra mile.
 

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A few months back, I was accused of being a Karen because I mentioned asking for a manager.

I think it was maybe tongue-in-cheek, but I have to say that there is a huge difference between demanding/screeching for a manager and telling the poor retail person in a polite way that you want to ask a manager if they can do what the cashier/CSR cannot.

I think LtDave32 would probably agree that the behavior of Karens -- and Kens -- is self-defeating. Flies, honey, vinegar and such. The unkindly customer gets the bare minimum, while the nice customer gets the extra mile.
When all of the BS started last year and there was a run on everything, my wife and I stopped into a few stores looking for some tissues and distilled water, along with some other things.
Ended up hitting about 6 stores to get what we needed.
One was a Vons (Safeway to those not from SoCal).
Vons has a "three is a crowd" policy where if there are three people in line, they'll open another register.
So we're in line, they have two registers open and the line is across the front of the store.

Yep... "Used to be pretty hot" blonde walks up, and yells "HELLOOOO... THREE'S A CROWD??????"

She then tried to hop into the register in front of the line... which was of course, 6ft back, she was quickly directed to the end of the line.

We got to the register, and I leaned over to the cashier and said "I think Karen is going to want to speak to the manager...."
The two cashiers lost it.
 

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You are on to something here. One of my early retail jobs in the '80s was as a cashier/clerk at an upscale, boutique-type, electronics and appliances store. The main bulk of the clientele was upper-middle class, so I came across plenty of Karens.

It wasn't until you posted this that I recognized them as Karens. I now see that they come in different forms. It think research would bear that out, which would likely complicate things.

After thinking about it, I guaran-f'kn-tee you that no such research will never be conducted because of the sociopolitical climate. Research professors would be cancelled, and no funding would be available because a lot of people would lose their shit, especially certain people.

Did you really just provide me with a link to a porn analyst?

Dude...
 

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