It's only a movie..

[KTM]

Thors hammer isn't "Heavy",..it's magic.

If the hammer were "heavy" like that it would've crushed Loki.



But it didn't.

Because it's not weight. It's magic.

Think of it as the hammer fixing itself to a point in time-space,..and once it affixes itself to that x,y,z coordinate it will not be moved unless it wants to,...or Thor calls it.

Loki is incredibly powerful and all he could do under the hammer was squirm a bit.

If this were the case wouldn't it stop a planet from rotating/orbiting or even stop the solar system the planet is in from moving? I suppose it could allow the planet/solar system/ airplane, etc. to move if it "wanted to"...

 

[cybermgk]

In the movie "Roadhouse", why were the cops never called?

The Antagonist, guy played by Ben Garza, 'owned ' the area, including local law enforcement.

 

[cybermgk]

Thors hammer isn't "Heavy",..it's magic.

Only Thor can pick it up. Not because of weight but because Thor is the one the hammer has chosen.

...Steve Rogers/Captain America was able to move the hammer though. ...though v-e-r-y slightly.

Not because he's stronger than Hulk,..but because Mjolnir (that's the hammers name and yes I'm a dork) sees that Rogers spirit is good....soul is pure,...however you want to put it.

If the hammer were "heavy" like that it would've crushed Loki.

But it didn't.

Because it's not weight. It's magic.

Think of it as the hammer fixing itself to a point in time-space,..and once it affixes itself to that x,y,z coordinate it will not be moved unless it wants to,...or Thor calls it.

Loki is incredibly powerful and all he could do under the hammer was squirm a bit.

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In the spirit of the thread (and since we're b*tching comic book movies)...

It bugs me in the first Iron Man that Tony Stark in a war torn hostile country is supposed to be driving around with no armed guards in a couple of Humvees.

Pretty sure a Billionaire, Dignitary, etc. on a business trip selling arms to the US would have much better protection.

Sure the story is the kidnapping was a setup by Obidiah Stane (the guy running Stark Industries) but still, Tony Stark would've had armed guards and protection,..and most likely would've been flying to where he was going and not riding in the Humvee with a couple of soldiers.

It was a column, terrorists took out several other vehicles first. He was going to and from base to a remote site for the testing/demo of the missile system. No plane to that point. MIGHT have taken a Helo, I guess. But, that is just as easy to take out, considering the terrorists had been supplied with all manner of Stark weapons. And, Stark wouldn't survive a helo taken out.

Plus, remember, Stark, at that point was a bit of an over-confident, over-indulgent SOB. I DO think he would have been driving back with Generals etc, not grunts.

If this were the case wouldn't it stop a planet from rotating/orbiting or even stop the solar system the planet is in from moving? I suppose it could allow the planet/solar system/ airplane, etc. to move if it "wanted to"...

K, smart guy , change what Mal said to fixing to a local, relative point in spacetime. The hammer is also sentient in a way.

 

[Olds442]

Thors hammer isn't "Heavy",..it's magic.

Only Thor can pick it up. Not because of weight but because Thor is the one the hammer has chosen.

...Steve Rogers/Captain America was able to move the hammer though. ...though v-e-r-y slightly.

Not because he's stronger than Hulk,..but because Mjolnir (that's the hammers name and yes I'm a dork) sees that Rogers spirit is good....soul is pure,...however you want to put it.

If the hammer were "heavy" like that it would've crushed Loki.

But it didn't.

Because it's not weight. It's magic.

Think of it as the hammer fixing itself to a point in time-space,..and once it affixes itself to that x,y,z coordinate it will not be moved unless it wants to,...or Thor calls it.

Loki is incredibly powerful and all he could do under the hammer was squirm a bit.

in the books/comics, hulk, capt 'murica and wonder woman can lift and gain power from mjolnir.

in the films Vision lifts it, but he's not really human, just a android. he doesn't seem to gain power from it, he just hands it to thor and later uses it to play crockette. (sp)

 

[KTM]

K, smart guy , change what Mal said to fixing to a local, relative point in spacetime. The hammer is also sentient in a way.

Shhh, I was just messing with Mal's head...

 

[Grand Pappy]

In the early 1980's Charles Bronson Movie "Death Hunt" (Great movie by the way)
Charles is being chased thru the wilderness in winter by Lee Marvin. He comes to a river gorge and as he is looking for a way across, the camera pans around you see guard rails and guy wires plain as day. I can't remember for sure, but I think you can even see the snow banks and plowed road as well.

 

[cybermgk]

Plan 9 From Outer Space

All of it.

Front to back, start to end.

 

[Mindfrigg]

Thors hammer isn't "Heavy",..it's magic.

Only Thor can pick it up. Not because of weight but because Thor is the one the hammer has chosen.

...Steve Rogers/Captain America was able to move the hammer though. ...though v-e-r-y slightly.

Not because he's stronger than Hulk,..but because Mjolnir (that's the hammers name and yes I'm a dork) sees that Rogers spirit is good....soul is pure,...however you want to put it.

If the hammer were "heavy" like that it would've crushed Loki.

But it didn't.

Because it's not weight. It's magic.

Think of it as the hammer fixing itself to a point in time-space,..and once it affixes itself to that x,y,z coordinate it will not be moved unless it wants to,...or Thor calls it.

Loki is incredibly powerful and all he could do under the hammer was squirm a bit.

______________


In the spirit of the thread (and since we're b*tching comic book movies)...

It bugs me in the first Iron Man that Tony Stark in a war torn hostile country is supposed to be driving around with no armed guards in a couple of Humvees.

Pretty sure a Billionaire, Dignitary, etc. on a business trip selling arms to the US would have much better protection.

Sure the story is the kidnapping was a setup by Obidiah Stane (the guy running Stark Industries) but still, Tony Stark would've had armed guards and protection,..and most likely would've been flying to where he was going and not riding in the Humvee with a couple of soldiers.

It was a column, terrorists took out several other vehicles first. He was going to and from base to a remote site for the testing/demo of the missile system. No plane to that point. MIGHT have taken a Helo, I guess. But, that is just as easy to take out, considering the terrorists had been supplied with all manner of Stark weapons. And, Stark wouldn't survive a helo taken out.

Plus, remember, Stark, at that point was a bit of an over-confident, over-indulgent SOB. I DO think he would have been driving back with Generals etc, not grunts.


K, smart guy , change what Mal said to fixing to a local, relative point in spacetime. The hammer is also sentient in a way.

in the books/comics, hulk, capt 'murica and wonder woman can lift and gain power from mjolnir.

in the films Vision lifts it, but he's not really human, just a android. he doesn't seem to gain power from it, he just hands it to thor and later uses it to play crockette. (sp)

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZVdR19E5mU&sns=em[/ame]

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

The Edward Norton Incredible Hulk movie


almost every scene you can pick apart.

from the ridiculous overuse of the color green in everything, (green filter over lens for seemingly the entire movie,..all the neon restaurant signs are green, Betsy Rosses glasses (when the light goes through the frames) are green.

Green green green,...everywhere.

Ok we get it,..it's a Hulk movie. JeezyCriest.


Then little things,...like Banner walking all the way from Guatemala to Toronto in barefeet without even a backpack for water.

There's one shot of him walking a dirt path in barefeet in the middle of the jungle,..no supplies.

Camera pulls back and you see he's deep,...deeeeeeep in the mountains.


No.

How did he cross borders?


There's just so much bad in that film.


There's one shot early in the movie after the first Hulk episode where he's walking up the street in a village, clothes are torn,....and you hear the piano in the background doing the 'Sad Walk' music from the Bill Bixby Hulk tv show. That was pretty cool.

And the way the intro credits recreated the original shows intro with the Gamma Machine and the green target/laser moving across Banners forehead.

The dramatic, "bar of light across the face showcasing that his eyes are green and sh*ts about to go down!" thing they did a couple times too.

It was a terrible movie all the way around, but the little homages to the tv show were kind of cool. ...nostalgia.

Of course the Hulk scenes are cool enough,..but that's only maybe 20% of the movie.


I really want them to do a stand-alone Hulk movie with the new guy from The Avengers.

But after two bad Hulk movies (eric bana and edward norton) ...I really doubt they'd risk another one.


It's a shame, Iron Man, Capt America, and Thor both get really good stand-alone 'origin' movies.

But the Hulk always gets weird ones that (sort of) throw away a lot of the character and fiction.

Don't understand why they can get the other three so right,...and The Hulk so wrong.


edit:

ok one thing they got really right in the Norton one.
Banner has PTSD and flashbacks to being the Hulk that really f**k him up and drop him and make him go (sorta) fetal.

THAT was good. That's in the comics. The guilt and horror of 'Being The Monster.'


and there's a shot at the end when Hulk gets hit with a spotlight from a helicopter and looks Grey,...and I think that was fan service to fans of the Grey Hulk.

 

[DRF]

But if the hammer were fixed in space and time or whatever... uh but but it reacts to gravity. It falls to the floor of the spaceship then later to the ground (Earth), why is it not floating, or rising or always in the vicinity of Thor. So technically it could fall on a stiff cardboard box and not crush it but if you removed the box it would go to the floor...no no no

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

Magic


Why does it fly through whatever's in it's way to join Thors hand when he puts his hand out?

Magic.

I mean the hammer flies on its own, ...it flies! A flying Hammer.

All bets are off.

 

[DRF]

...Also the Hulk is supposed to weigh like 1400lbs and more especially when he gets to King Kong size...so he can jump off one foot 3 miles -in the movies...how does he get traction and not have leg sink into soft ground (dirt).

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

But see the Hulk doesn't "Grow more" the angrier he gets.

that's some BS they just stuck in the Bana movie for some reason.

(From the Marvel Stats: Height
5' 9½" (Banner); 6'6" (gray Hulk); 7' – 8' (green/savage Hulk); )


..that's the sh*t that bugs me. Just stick to the character, he doesn't need embellishment.

The character alone is interesting. The dichotomy between Banners mild behavoir and the Hulks rage.

That's what I loved about The Avengers, "the secret is I'm always angry."

I relate to that.

I like that the Hulk isn't a "Monster",...it's Banners unrestrained id. Everything he keeps bottled up,..released.

 

[DRF]

Bana -Ang Lee's Hulk...I really like that movie though.

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

that wasn't The Hulk though.

that was a big green King Kong.

(and Bana looked nothing like Banner. Too big, too tall, too handsome, etc.)


Banner is not a big strong handsome guy.

 

[DRF]

I was going to post a bunch of pics, old comic Hulk and some new modern art but I feel hijacking the thread so I'll just leave this pic.

Sorry back to topic...

 

[cybermgk]

But see the Hulk doesn't "Grow more" the angrier he gets.

that's some BS they just stuck in the Bana movie for some reason.

(From the Marvel Stats: Height
5' 9½" (Banner); 6'6" (gray Hulk); 7' – 8' (green/savage Hulk); )


..that's the sh*t that bugs me. Just stick to the character, he doesn't need embellishment.

The character alone is interesting. The dichotomy between Banners mild behavoir and the Hulks rage.

That's what I loved about The Avengers, "the secret is I'm always angry."

I relate to that.

I like that the Hulk isn't a "Monster",...it's Banners unrestrained id. Everything he keeps bottled up,..released.

In the Comic canon, however he does grow STRONGER as he gets angrier. And, that ties in with the whole Id personified concept.

And yes, "the secret is I'm always angry." is a great line.

 

[VictorB]

In the movie "Roadhouse", why were the cops never called?

Someone should have called the cops on you for watching that crap movie!

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

I was going to post a bunch of pics, old comic Hulk and some new modern art but I feel hijacking the thread so I'll just leave this pic.

Sorry back to topic...

Want! Hahaha

 

[Hack]

I ruin movies too.

I have to point out and even rewind when they cut back and forth when a drink goes up and down or a cigarette grows longer. Those things kill me. Good movies pay attention to that stuff and so do I.
Then you have the real bad ones where someone is talking with a jacket on, then they clip away to the other person, then back and his jacket is off, then back on again. Just horrible.
Purse switching back and forth to the right and left shoulder, obsured.

Oh, and just forget about having a drink and a smoke in one hand, I have to turn away.