It can't happen fast enough...

[mudface]

Might as well get 4 or 5 stay at home jobs,,... who the hell is going to know. You can make bank and fuck off 4 or 5 times as hard..... That's the way you do it,... money for nothing and your chicken for free.

Go to the warehouse and find Lt Dave's double ring tuners and answer Pizza Hut pizza orders....

"have i provided excellent service?"

 

[dspelman]

I do financial consulting -- during Covid we stopped doing in-person appointments, stopped using offices, and began doing almost everything via Zoom. Financial companies got onboard and paper applications disappeared and the meat and potatoes of the business is all online these days. Because we don't have drive time between appointments, so we can schedule more appointments, and because we're not limited to a certain number per day (due to the need to drive between them) and because we're not limited in distance between them, we're able to expand well beyond what we did before Covid.

Putting in the same number of hours per day, and not needing to show up at an office or carry paperwork around, we can make far more money as well.

 

[mdubya]

could they work somewhere other than tampa,all those commuters make it hard to get to the beach...

I thought Tampa got washed off the map in some sort of flood a few months ago?

Hey he eats at McD's with us common folk

He has a personal parking space, though.

Might as well get 4 or 5 stay at home jobs,,... who the hell is going to know. You can make bank and fuck off 4 or 5 times as hard..... That's the way you do it,... money for nothing and your chicken for free.

Go to the warehouse and find Lt Dave's double ring tuners and answer Pizza Hut pizza orders....

"have i provided excellent service?"

One of my buds floats the 'getting two jobs at once' thing fairly regularly. "How long do you think it would take them to notice?"

On the flip side, we had a big announcement that one of our coworkers was terminated for having two jobs, double dipping. It came with a stern warning for anyone considering doing the same. So that is proof that people do it.

I mean, if you produce the work they ask of you at two different jobs, what is the crime in that?

 

[TXOldRedRocker]

I need to get off MLP. I'm supposed to go to the office today. Should get there about noon.

OK, I'm at my office. (Again, first time in almost 3 years.) Damn this thread blew up while I was working.

 

[mudface]

I thought Tampa got washed off the map in some sort of flood a few months ago?



He has a personal parking space, though.



One of my buds floats the 'getting two jobs at once' thing fairly regularly. "How long do you think it would take them to notice?"

On the flip side, we had a big announcement that one of our coworkers was terminated for having two jobs, double dipping. It came with a stern warning for anyone considering doing the same. So that is proof that people do it.

I mean, if you produce the work they ask of you at two different jobs, what is the crime in that?

I agree,... if you can manage it why the hell not?.....

 

[TXOldRedRocker]

My observation is that people "working" from home are far less productive.

Uh, agree with Kamen...

depends on the people, and the job

Agreed. We have A LOT of chit chat, mostly by my boss, the owner, when we're in the office. I get way more done when I'm at home. As a reminder to a previous comment, before 2020, I was 2 days in the office, 3 days at home. I got much more accomplished at home. Twice the productivity, or more. Simply due to our company's specific office environment. YMMV.

 

[TXOldRedRocker]

I've caught up on the thread.

Summary:

@SteveC (1) Get off my lawn! (2) Stay off the roads, I'm retired! You, whomever you are, should be in a fucking office! (3) Has way more fucks to give than he believes he has.

 

[SteveC]

One problem I see with this is that everywhere I look, everyone is already understaffed. And not due to people working from home. Pharmacists aren't working from home. Waiters and waitresses aren't working from home. Home Depot shelf stockers aren't working from home. These places just can't get anyone to work for the wages they are offering. So what is the employer supposed to do? Fire some people to show the peons they mean business? I don't see how that will help.

I here ya, Pete.

I'm not talking about those jobs that are absolutely workplace based (stores, diners, construction, etc.). I'm speaking primarily about white collar jobs, that are traditionally performed (under supervision) in the workplace.

The pharmacy thing hits close to home here. Our two local pharms are CVS and Rite Aid. Both close between 1-2P every day to give the Pharmasist a break. Where we once had two per store at any time. It's now mostly one on staff at a time. I jsut saw that starting on Feb 1, they are closing the Pharmacy at 6P during the week, and at 3P on weekends.

I'm not sure about your location, but I have a couple Pharmacists who are members at my gun club. They tell me the average starting wage for a Pharmacist is about $100K, plus benefits. Seasoned ones can make around $160-190K.

If people don't want to work for that kind of money - fuck them!

As for the Home Depot and hospitality industries... that worm will turn, too. As the remaining stimulus money and unemployment, and savings accounts start to deplete, people will have to go back to work. Coupled with this, we are seeing the jobs that they left for, are depleting and/or are staffed - the remaining opportunities will be service industry roles.

It's going to get rough for a lot of people, really fast, really soon. This is a scary article (not a fear mongering one) about how people are slowing their spending. Why? Because they are running out all that stimulus money, and have (stupidly) depleted their savings.

That job at Home Depot for $15/hour is gonna look pretty fuckin' good, soon.

The U.S. Consumer Is Starting to Freak Out

The flush savings accounts and cheap credit that helped keep Americans spending at high rates since 2020 are disappearing, while inflation remains elevated.

www.wsj.com

 

[SteveC]

I will certainly admit if I had a work from home job I would fuck off.
Not saying that I would not get the work done but yeah I would mess around.

Finally, an honest one!

 

[redcoats1976]

I thought Tampa got washed off the map in some sort of flood a few months ago?



He has a personal parking space, though.



One of my buds floats the 'getting two jobs at once' thing fairly regularly. "How long do you think it would take them to notice?"

On the flip side, we had a big announcement that one of our coworkers was terminated for having two jobs, double dipping. It came with a stern warning for anyone considering doing the same. So that is proof that people do it.

I mean, if you produce the work they ask of you at two different jobs, what is the crime in that?

@no,tampas fine.daytona beach wont look the same for a while though.

 

[PeteK]

I here ya, Pete.

I'm not talking about those jobs that are absolutely workplace based (stores, diners, construction, etc.). I'm speaking primarily about white collar jobs, that are traditionally performed (under supervision) in the workplace.

The pharmacy thing hits close to home here. Our two local pharms are CVS and Rite Aid. Both close between 1-2P every day to give the Pharmasist a break. Where we once had two per store at any time. It's now mostly one on staff at a time. I jsut saw that starting on Feb 1, they are closing the Pharmacy at 6P during the week, and at 3P on weekends.

I'm not sure about your location, but I have a couple Pharmacists who are members at my gun club. They tell me the average starting wage for a Pharmacist is about $100K, plus benefits. Seasoned ones can make around $160-190K.

If people don't want to work for that kind of money - fuck them!

As for the Home Depot and hospitality industries... that worm will turn, too. As the remaining stimulus money and unemployment, and savings accounts start to deplete, people will have to go back to work. Coupled with this, we are seeing the jobs that they left for, are depleting and/or are staffed - the remaining opportunities will be service industry roles.

It's going to get rough for a lot of people, really fast, really soon. This is a scary article (not a fear mongering one) about how people are slowing their spending. Why? Because they are running out all that stimulus money, and have (stupidly) depleted their savings.

That job at Home Depot for $15/hour is gonna look pretty fuckin' good, soon.

The U.S. Consumer Is Starting to Freak Out

The flush savings accounts and cheap credit that helped keep Americans spending at high rates since 2020 are disappearing, while inflation remains elevated.

www.wsj.com

Every pharmacy in town is the same. All understaffed. Our hospital is the same as well. Severely understaffed. I think those 2 have less to do with people unwilling to work as they have to do with employers requiring employees to get vaccinated. Our hospital lost a lot of nurses and doctors over that. The fact that it is still required at this point is sort of baffling.

As far as your comments about stimulus and savings, I disagree. The bottom 95% of this country lives check to check at best. I don't know too many people that had more than a few months pay saved, if that. Most had none. And stimulus checks? That was $1200 and it was over 2 years ago. That's long gone. Like if those checks went out in April 2020, they were gone by that June. I really don't think savings or stimulus checks are a factor at all at this point. I think it's more like what Zungle was saying earlier. There has been a major change in the workforce. People don't want to work shitty jobs for shit money where customers get all persnickety about being told to go to a parking spot to wait for their food.

I have no idea what those people are doing, but your generation is retiring at a rate of about 10,000 people a day right now. Much to your chagrin it's largely millennials replacing them since by now the millennials are in their 40's and are definitely not the demographic at fault for McDonald's staffing or work ethic issues. Like it or not, millennials are middle aged adults now. Not burger flipping teenagers. And gen z are the sensitive little Lord Fontleroys that won't work a job unless it fills their soul with everlasting warmth. We can clown on their sensitivity, but they largely aren't willing to flip burgers for shit money while getting chewed out by angry customers.

 

[SteveC]

To return to the societal aspect for a moment. Again, stipulating that some people (not most) actually do WORK from home...

There is an element of teamwork and engagement that forms and maintains, relationships.

Zoom calls will not do that. Email and chat will not do that. People, interacting with other people is a fundamental need for a functioning society. Outside of sleeping, the largest part of our day is spent working.

If you spend all that time, alone in a room with a computer and a phone, with no human contact, you are relegating only about eight hours/day for any possibility of human contact.

We are growing into a society (poor choice of words) of loners, people who want to be dependent on a pane of glass for everything. A society that looks for every possible way to avoid human contact.

The plague ruined this place in more ways than we know.

 

[OldBenKenobi]

I have yet to be convinced that a white collar job that can be done from home is a job where working eight hours straight to produce eight hours of work means a fuckin thing anyway. Demanding an arbitrary 40-hours-a-week just 'cause seems like dinosaur mentality from a time when that was the only option.

From my point of view, what the people living in offices and cubicles do barely qualifies as work to begin with. Lets see them get out on the floor and move some shit around. Oh boy does my crew ever love it when carpet walkers come out of their comfy, climate controlled office to take a stroll around the warehouse because "my ass hurts from sitting." Sweet, you want exercise? Put your boots on and we'll put your numb ass to work. This piece of equipment weighs 80 pounds, go flip 50 of em.

Now the fucks always seem to be able to work from home. So on top of making a lot more money, they don't even have to leave the house half the time. It sure is nice that they don't have to waste sick days being sick, because if they're "not feeling 100%" they can just opt to work from home for the day.

At my company the starting pay for entry level positions is the same. The girl in the office who's only job is to answer phones and refill the snack cupboard gets paid the same as the guy who's out in the heat working his cunt off 40 hours a week. Joke.

Carpet walkers. What a joke.

As you can see, I'm divided between my belief that WFH is the way of the future and ultimately is for the betterment of society and my own bitterness at the incompetent office staff I watch lead pampered lives.

 

[PeteK]

If you are reading this, then you are not working.

And yet I'm reading this on a computer at my desk. In the office. At work. I guess it would be different if I were at home? It's somehow more productive for me to be fucking off all day on MLP if I'm actually in the office rather than at home? Oddly, I mostly post whore here from work. Way less when I'm at home.

 

[Neofelis Nebulosa]

Wait.. You're saying all the people working from home are driving fuel prices up?

Everyone I know that works from home hardly touches their car, barely gets driven

There is a family on our street that both bread winners work from home.

For awhile they were getting multiple deliveries a day, everyday.

UPS, FedEx, USPS, large Amazon trucks, Uber Eats, pizza delivery. Gluttonous consumers didn't touch their car for weeks, but were responsible for 90% of the traffic on our quiet dead end street.

Thankfully they appear to be running out of money, or have become partially satiated.

 

[Neofelis Nebulosa]

And yet I'm reading this on a computer at my desk. In the office. At work. I guess it would be different if I were at home? It's somehow more productive for me to be fucking off all day on MLP if I'm actually in the office rather than at home? Oddly, I mostly post whore here from work. Way less when I'm at home.

You may be at work, but you sure aren't working.

 

[SteveC]

As you can see, I'm divided between my belief that WFH is the way of the future and ultimately is for the betterment of society and my own bitterness at the incompetent office staff I watch lead pampered lives.

I can't say that you are not right.

Beyond that, it opens many cans-o-worms, though.

 

[hecube]

Never again will I work in a cubicle.

That ship has sailed and sunk.

 

[hecube]

To return to the societal aspect for a moment. Again, stipulating that some people (not most) actually do WORK from home...

There is an element of teamwork and engagement that forms and maintains, relationships.

Zoom calls will not do that. Email and chat will not do that. People, interacting with other people is a fundamental need for a functioning society. Outside of sleeping, the largest part of our day is spent working.

If you spend all that time, alone in a room with a computer and a phone, with no human contact, you are relegating only about eight hours/day for any possibility of human contact.

We are growing into a society (poor choice of words) of loners, people who want to be dependent on a pane of glass for everything. A society that looks for every possible way to avoid human contact.

The plague ruined this place in more ways than we know.

Who, in their right mind, would want human contact anyway?!

 

[Roxy13]

Not all Millenials are middle aged lol. Some are in their mid to late 20s.

Just like not all of Gen X are in our 50s. A good number are in their 40s. Some Boomers are in their late 50s still.