It can't happen fast enough...

[MenaceMartin]

 

[PeteK]

If anyone thinks that employers do not have the upper hand, they are going find out the hard way. Cutting staff shows that the do. They no longer need to keep underperformers, or thsoe that don't play by the rules.

Employers make the rules.

One problem I see with this is that everywhere I look, everyone is already understaffed. And not due to people working from home. Pharmacists aren't working from home. Waiters and waitresses aren't working from home. Home Depot shelf stockers aren't working from home. These places just can't get anyone to work for the wages they are offering. So what is the employer supposed to do? Fire some people to show the peons they mean business? I don't see how that will help.

 

[PapaSquash]

For a guy that constantly claims to not give any fucks, you sure give a lot of fucks about stuff...

He unloads those fucks immediately. That's why he never has any in stock

 

[mdubya]

Another thing that surprised me was..... all these people working from home....what are they working at? Seems to me that very few people do anything tangible... We used to make things, build things! Who is doing that anymore? Is everyone just sitting at a desk punching on a keyboard? I'll take 1 good plumber over 100 coders.

There is almost always a chat function, whether through Teams, Skype, or Outlook. That chat function is always on and anyone can see if you are online, in a meeting, available, busy, etc.

There is usually some form of work interface where management on down assigns tasks and tracks progress, addresses roadblocks impeding progress, etc.

Almost everything we do in the world these days runs off of people creating and maintaining electronic online interfaces, from streaming media to ordering anything - from food to tools to guitars - online, paying bills, banking and investments, etc.

And everyone expects all of these things to run without a hitch.

Data accuracy and business and personal security is not just expected, but absolutely mandatory.

That takes a lot of manpower to create, maintain, fix, and backup ALL of those never ending systems. The work never ends.

The IT industry is at like 99% employment rate right now. Companies are lucky to find ANYONE to do a job, muchless have their pick of the cream of the crop.

If you are reliable and you do your job well enough, they are pretty eager to retain you and to keep you as happy as they reasonably can.

We are not all that different from plumbers and skilled construction workers.

A few jobs ago, I worked on a project that was estimated to be worth $14 Billion in total to a Big Pharma company. They tend to feel the work is pretty important with expectations like that.

 

[PapaSquash]

I was full time on the road - which is really 4 days a week of work given travel time - for nine months a few years back, then full time on site in Canada for another engagement until things got off the ground and then I was WFH three weeks, and off to Toronto for the fourth. That lasted almost 2 years, then as reward for all that on-the-road and home work, juggling time zones, I got a nice big in-town client. Sane culture, a desk with nice set-up, subsidized cafeteria with decent food, and a bank in the lobby. 30 min commute with a parking spot, it was pretty sweet. About 18 months in, that which will not be named hit and it's back to WFH. Worked myself out of a job there, and the new WFH engagement is fully remote, client in Palo Alto who thinks they already know everything, team across every time zone from the Maritimes to India (OK leave out a few in the central Pacific.) I'd take back my 30 minute commute in a heartbeat.

 

[PeteK]

I prefer my job in a physical trade where working from home or being replaced by a robot isn't really an option.

 

[SteveGangi]

Another thing that surprised me was..... all these people working from home....what are they working at? Seems to me that very few people do anything tangible... We used to make things, build things! Who is doing that anymore? Is everyone just sitting at a desk punching on a keyboard? I'll take 1 good plumber over 100 coders.

Programming and coding, software QA, tech document review, database design, data collection and review, marketing (sales and marketing are often at home or on the road anyway), budgeting, schedule planning, etc etc etc.

Some things are done better at home, away from the usual office bullshit (interruptions, second guessing, politics, office bullies, gossips, fuckoffs dumping their work on you, micoromanagers).


Added on edit:

Yes we USED TO build things. But then MANAGEMENT farmed it out to other countries. So we no longer make things here.

 

[dc007]

SteveC hasn't been the same since the burro died

 

[redcoats1976]

could they work somewhere other than tampa,all those commuters make it hard to get to the beach...

 

[PeteK]

SteveC hasn't been the same since the burro died

He's kinda turning into Steve Jinping with all these demands that the peasants do more for less and no matter what, they must stay out of his royal highness's way.

 

[electric head]

I will certainly admit if I had a work from home job I would fuck off.
Not saying that I would not get the work done but yeah I would mess around.

 

[wildhawk1]

He unloads those fucks immediately. That's why he never has any in stock

@LtDave32 is checking the warehouse.

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

Another thing that surprised me was..... all these people working from home....what are they working at? Seems to me that very few people do anything tangible... We used to make things, build things! Who is doing that anymore? Is everyone just sitting at a desk punching on a keyboard? I'll take 1 good plumber over 100 coders.

I was 1 good plumber. It broke my body. Now I build and help run networks in the cloud.

The pay is better and it isn't breaking my body.





....it might be making my stomach larger though.

 

[scott1970]

The Job Market for Remote Workers Is Shrinking

Remote job opportunities are dwindling as fewer employers feel the need to lure talent with the promise of working from home.

www.wsj.com

Get these fuckers back in their damn cubicles and out of the stores, restaurants and off the fucking roads. Maybe if they don't have all day to spend, we might just get inflation under control, including driving the demand for fuel down.

I know your motivation. Needing easier access to the mall and McDonald's, huh? Gross.

 

[Fiat Lux]

Are we still talking about minions?

cheers.

 

[Bobby Mahogany]

SteveC hasn't been the same since the burro died

Depression has mysterious ways...
Most people just stay in bed.

But...
Some go to McDonald's to find a fight with a parking space.
Some shout at workers while they themselves don't work.
Some bag "fucks to give" and spill them out without warning.

@SteveC : We love you, Man! Don't sink!

 

[Leee]

I prefer my job in a physical trade where working from home or being replaced by a robot isn't really an option.

BINGO.
And my job isn’t going “offshore” as they say.

 

[KSG_Standard]

My Daughter works for one of the big defense contractors. They’re staying WFH for most functions other than the production line. They go to the office when they need to, which amounts to 2-3 month.

One way her company measures “productivity” is by monitoring computer use/time for some employees.

 

[dc007]

He's kinda turning into Steve Jinping with all these demands that the peasants do more for less and no matter what, they must stay out of his royal highness's way.

Hey he eats at McD's with us common folk

 

[dspelman]

The Job Market for Remote Workers Is Shrinking

Remote job opportunities are dwindling as fewer employers feel the need to lure talent with the promise of working from home.

www.wsj.com

Get these fuckers back in their damn cubicles and out of the stores, restaurants and off the fucking roads. Maybe if they don't have all day to spend, we might just get inflation under control, including driving the demand for fuel down.

I read another artile in the WSJ that said they are all running out of money, too. All the free money they stashed away... well, they pissed it all away.

Go get a fucking job!

The supporting ecosystems for office work will also rebound. More jobs will be available. And, once these little pussies realize they can't stay home and play Xbox all day, before going to lunch for three hours, followed by a shopping spree -- perhaps, they will actually take of some those jobs.

The party is finally ending for these freeloaders. It just can't happen fast enough for me!

I think the WSJ has it wrong -- remote working is probably expanding.
People moved out of San Francisco because it was too damned expensive and the square footage was too darned small. So the housing market is declining because folks are able to find larger homes (and need to, if they're working from home) and don't have to drive as much.

Employers are able to see how much work is getting done; logons are obvious, work output is also obvious. If a work from home employee isn't working, that too is obvious. I really haven't had an office job in decades; I don't think it's necessary, healthy or beneficial. That would probably extend to "working for someone else" as well, leastways in my case. I've always had a business of some kind that didn't rely on compensated slavery. If I worked, I made more money. If I didn't, I starved. Easy.