It can't happen fast enough...

[SteveC]

Probably 50 hours per month for my wife.
And 100 miles per day that don’t get driven.
We spend much less on gasoline.

Of course, she’s a social butterfly, and she struggles without the human interaction.
Big adjustment for her.

Socialization is a big aspect if in-person work. It may be the ONLY thing that I miss about being in the workforce.

I suspect that aspect of working may be part of why the younger generation hates in-person work so much. Those fuckers would rather spend 24 hours/day staring at a screen, before interacting with people.

Look how they live their lives.... They love using the kiosks to order things, because fuck talking to a person, when you type on glass. They have people drive their food to them, rather than dine out, or go get it. They have hundreds of imaginary friends that live on their phone. They have virtually NO social skills.

All under the guise of, "It's easier. Faster. I'm too busy (doing what???)."

I have been at my kids house when they text each other in different rooms. Really??? Get the fuck up and go speak with someone.

We all bitched about how remote learning was so bad for our kids. Yet, it's great for us? No. It's turning us into isolationists. And, every CEO who I know says the "productivity gains" is simply bullshit. They know that the overwhelming majority of people are fucking off.

Why do you think it is finally going away?

Remember my lobster in a pot of water analogy.... told ya so!

 

[Zungle]

My view and thoughts on remote work, and inflation are changing....

And I'm a very old school skilled laboring sub contractor......

The economy,market,labor and consumption have all changed.....

These changes are going to be permanent for a good percentage of the population.......

How ever we are on an economic collision with labor and inflation that must happen before we really know where we're headed...,

Here's a few thoughts.......

Working from home ?
People like it, it saves energy etc......not a big deal in my world.

But, corporations like it as well, so much in fact many are now getting out of leases and even large scale construction projects .....it reduces overhead....more profit !!

Whats the cost of working from home??....jobs on both ends....jobs within the company being cut....jobs related to the company being cut.

Up north in Seattle/King County area the labor unions are laying off big time right now, large scale private construction is almost dead.......yes it is happening.

Wages ??

The idea no one wants to work.....false.

Reality .....No one wants to work a shitty job for cheap

Hear me out....

And a single income under $75k in my state makes you poor......rents are exceding $2k a month everywhere.....$3k if your close to Seattle/Bellevue/Eastside area....and this is apartment rent......forget a house.

Also......a $40 and hour job will not qualify for 1st home purchase up here...thats a big fvk up.

The general cost of staying alive is staggering and depressing for any single person making less than $40 an hour......or even more depressing for 2 people earning $20

This has and is changing attitudes about work......why put up with any bullshit at a crap job...poor is poor.......and most jobs are just that $22 an hour and crap....

These young kids aren't as dumb as we think.....some of us were dumb, letting our bosses and companies use us up.......we were afraid and raised differently....we worked to cheap to long....

Again a war is brewing.....wages vs inflation.....

We are in the midst of highest cost of goods ever.....and its still ticking up.

Wages and savings are worth less every day......

Raise wages....prices climb.....they have to.....

Landlords know home ownership for the working class is becoming unrealistic so they're jacking rents ....profiting off the working poor and our current situation...

No band aid, no government program can or will stabilize this mess.....

Only a genuine crash with a decade of depression can sort this out.....

But we're dumb.....we'll just increase governent size in hopes of a nicer casket......



Why did this happen......it started with Alan Greenspan lowering prime rate to far to long......then the following administration not correcting....

We should have been at current interest rates 20 years ago......we may have avoided the 2008 recession as well.....yes....it wasn't all Madoffs fault.

When you strip a company or financial system down too lean, eventually it has to restructured as its not sustainable ....like a fire burning to hot......

Why did this happen....the USA economy is based on consumer spending.....zero manufacturing and labor developement.....sell, purchase, or borrow if you don't our economy is dead......

The feds needed lazy spending.l.

We have a mess that only a disaster type reset will fix.........

 

[danohat]

I predict an increase in baby births from stay at home dads getting their testosterone back.

 

[Freddy G]

My observation is that people "working" from home are far less productive.

 

[Kamen_Kaiju]

depends on the people, and the job

 

[danohat]

I've never seen so many wealthy men in pajamas with bad haircuts and bed head as I have the last few years.

 

[KSG_Standard]

Looks that way!

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F'ckin Steve!

 

[Lineosight]

I predict an increase in baby births from stay at home dads getting their testosterone back.

I predict hand-lube sales go up, births go down as moms leave for the office

 

[SteveC]

My observation is that people "working" from home are far less productive.

Freddy, no shit.

I still keep in contact with folks on LinkedIn. I can name many CEO's of fortune 500 companies who are fed up with WFH. They know that the productivity claims are crap. They know that the majority of WFH EE's are fucking off. They want an end to WFH.

But, because of all the butthurt, they are s l o w l y reintroducing back to office policies. A day, or two now... three days later... then, before they realize what happened to them, they'll be back full time.

No. Not everyone. Heaven forbid I generalize But, the party is ending for most. And, it will be a very good thing.

 

[MikeyTheCat]

I'm still 100% remote. I no longer own pants.

 

[Freddy G]

depends on the people, and the job

Perhaps, but I will venture that human nature prevails.

 

[MikeyTheCat]

Looks that way!

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Damn @SteveC, that's more fucks than a limo load of sex-workers.

 

[Leee]

My observation is that people "working" from home are far less productive.

That’s a pretty good rule, but my wife is the exception.

She will not allow anyone to pin that presumption on her.

She’s at her desk, making calls and sending emails well before her starting time.
Closes out her day the same way.

Sure, she takes care of minor household and critter stuff throughout the day, but it means too much to her to allow anyone to presume she’s less productive.

In fact, she’s far more concerned than her bosses are…

 

[SteveC]

Damn @SteveC, that's more fucks than a limo load of sex-workers.

I know.... I was cleaning out the basement over the weekend and found an old box of them. I had to get rid of them, so why not go on a multi-thread bender???

 

[MikeyTheCat]

My observation is that people "working" from home are far less productive.

It depends. I get everything done, it's just not 8 consecutive hours. My day starts around 7am EST, can go to 9pm EST as I have team members in California. But in between I'll take time off in the afternoon to get to the gym, walk for an hour and play a little guitar.

 

[SteveC]

They say, it's always a few who spoil it for the many.

I think WFH is the exact opposite. Yes... I know many of you, your spouses, your kids, and even your fucking dog are diligent WFH employees. They are in the minority.

 

[PeteK]

They say, it's always a few who spoil it for the many.

I think WFH is the exact opposite. Yes... I know many of you, your spouses, your kids, and even your fucking dog are diligent WFH employees. They are in the minority.

I work so my dog can have a better life than me. That lazy fuck just lays around on the couch all day.

 

[Leee]

Yes... I know many of you, your spouses, your kids, and even your fucking dog are diligent WFH employees. They are in the minority.

Probably so.

Even the missus believes this, as she knows plenty of others who work from home and don’t seem to get much done.
Part of her drive to stay outta that crowd.

 

[SFK]

Steve needs a job.

Perhaps.

Some way of channeling these errant fucks.

 

[mdubya]

I say the ratio of work from home slackers is the same as in office.

I had work from home jobs long before the pandemic.

And I had a hybrid job when the pandemic hit.

We were already headed in a remote direction.

The job I had before the pandemic had a nearly empty office about 85% of the time.

My current job is hiring almost exclusively remote workers.

We have several new ones onboard, from all corners of the country.

And I can already tell who is going to work out and who isn't.

IF your job is to sit at a computer and ALL of your work is accessed via that computer, what difference does it make where you sit to do that work?

Companies were spending a fortune to make the in office environment appealing to new talent. Now they don't have to.

I know for a fact that productivity and time spent working is tracked by my work.