Is This a Chibson?

[NewDayHappy]

Is it just me or does the pickup binding look completely tacky?

 

[Sp8ctre]

You asked for an opinion. My opinion is that this is a photo top. Sorry don't want to knock down your guitar, but I see all the typical things I see on photo tops (the right one is a photo top). Like this;

No problem, I value opinions on this forum. it's a piece of junk. I just wanted to see if anyone could tell. It's also nice to see what to look for.

 

[Sp8ctre]

There is nothing "real" in a chib sorry everyone for this, not my fault.There is not any "maple top" nor "mahogany body". It's not maple, it's not mahogany. In this case there is something on top of something else. Sure it's not maple on top of mahogany.

Even a legit and completely good Epiphone doesn't have such features, for a much higher price. People should realize that using real wood does cost money even for a china manufacturer. You should consider yourself lucky if your chib has an alive trussrod.

Is one of those an Epiphone?

 

[PierM]

Is one of those an Epiphone?

Oh no, that is a Chibson. It was a black "custom" stripped by the owner: http://www.squier-talk.com/threads/bastardized-chibson.127127/

Epiphone has at least some simil/mahogany-related wood, with tight grain and a good porosity....and looks much better than this in the picture. Also usually Epiphone does use a real veneer on top of the body.

https://get.google.com/albumarchive...pV58NoXhmosAld13J-68Yf-zX7032mna0P?source=pwa

 

[Sp8ctre]

Oh no, that is a Chibson. It was a black "custom" stripped by the owner: http://www.squier-talk.com/threads/bastardized-chibson.127127/

Epiphone has at least some simil/mahogany-related wood, with tight grain and a good porosity....and looks much better than this in the picture. Also usually Epiphone does use a real veneer on top of the body.

https://get.google.com/albumarchive...pV58NoXhmosAld13J-68Yf-zX7032mna0P?source=pwa

It is two guitars right? The picture is odd and hard to tell...

 

[chasenblues]

Ozzy Mandeus autopsied a Chibson in this thread.

http://www.mylespaul.com/threads/fake-gibson-with-fake-truss-rod.326325/page-2

 

[bluesondoor]

Ozzy Mandeus autopsied a Chibson in this thread.

http://www.mylespaul.com/threads/fake-gibson-with-fake-truss-rod.326325/page-2

Amazing teardown. It's important that everyone see these guitars are made cheap, as cheap as possible, and their ONLY function is to appear like a Gibson to the untrained eye. They are not and never have been made to be instruments.

I've said it before but the only function they want out of a Chibson is that a sound comes out when it's plugged into an amp. Nothing more than that.

 

[Donal]

Ozzy Mandeus autopsied a Chibson in this thread.

http://www.mylespaul.com/threads/fake-gibson-with-fake-truss-rod.326325/page-2

Yep, that was it, couldn`t find it earlier

 

[bum]

I'd never even buy a chibson with a non Gibson logo, there are no standards and I'd never know deep down what I had actually bought. Is it solid mahogany? Maybe! Is it rolled up socks mixed with panda semen? Who knows!
I'd much sooner go absolutely crazy and throw another £20 at an Epi, or similar.

 

[Sp8ctre]

I'd never even buy a chibson with a non Gibson logo, there are no standards and I'd never know deep down what I had actually bought. Is it solid mahogany? Maybe! Is it rolled up socks mixed with panda semen? Who knows!
I'd much sooner go absolutely crazy and throw another £20 at an Epi, or similar.

If you contact a manufacturer direct they will allow you to select wood and they will give you progress pictures
with appropriate markings to allow you to know it's legit. During the process you may reject the material
being used or request something else.

I'm sure by pictures that have been sent to me that some of these are coming out of factories that are building
guitars for other resellers under brand names. Maybe not the big guys, but other name brands.

I am completely satisfied with the no name I had custom made...

 

[Greenman]

Definitely a fake. I superimposed the straight on picture over a verified genuine Les Paul picture. The cutaway and horn are way off.

 

[nicholas322]

I really can't see anything wrong with this guitar, it looks every bit as good as my 2016 Standard. I could only notice it has some kind of Grover Rotomatics tuning keys with taller posts.

It is totally fake. None of the 5 Paul's I have, have the knob line up perfectly with the stop tail. Search Sweetwater and musicians friend and look at the knobs. These look too spread out but pay attention to the stop tail. I have never seen one line up like this one does!

 

[coupe89]

Even my untrained eye can notice the shape of the head and body, the line down the middle and the volume knob.

 

[60Cycle]

There is no defense. I suppose he plays in a cover band, in venues that don't pay PROs.

I seriously cannot think of anything more tacky than playing a fake guitar. Does he wear fake sneakers? A fake watch? If a venue I was playing in was that dodgy, I would reconsider many of my life's choices.

Not going to keep me up at night what he does, I can understand it. So when’s your next show at Wembly?

 

[filtersweep]

Not going to keep me up at night what he does, I can understand it. So when’s your next show at Wembly?

I do studio work for soundtracks. The pay is better.

 

[tokairic]

Glad to hear this confirmed and really glad your friend didn't end up with it!

I hate the Chinese copies, they make buying a used guitar, confidently, impossible. This drives some folk to the dealers to buy new genuine articles, if they can afford it, and this may do Gibson a bit of good in a roundabout way.
But - say you do buy a genuine Gibson, which has sneaked through the notoriously poor Gibson QC, you may have a real problem achieving any sort of decent sale price if you decide to part with it, as the many Chibson experts on here may condemn it as a fake............

 

[tokairic]

If its a "luthier" copy how can the truss rod cover or treble/rhythm ring be ORIGINAL.........at least not to that guitar.
It may be the only REAL Gibson parts but they ain't original to nothing. Even so,.. the real proof would have been what's going on in the control cavity, if it has a serial number, and what do the routes look like?? A professional job would at least look like it...

Not so sure that Gibson routing would be a clue to a fake - I have a genuine Gibson ES339 where the cavity looks like its been chewed out by a rabid rat! Good job it can't be seen.

 

[Lemonburst R8]

Just a couple things right off the rip, the lettering on the switch ring is not parallel, and the font is way wrong it looks like they used Ellmers glue to join the maple top at the lower bout. Stay away from knock offs, this shit is criminal. Best to all Peace out. Big B

 

[Karldoog]

I'm really surprised it's a Chibson... do they really make knockoffs that are so good nowadays?

From what I understand, they stole the CAD programs through economic espionage. I agree with you: people who buy these blatant fakes are absolutely committing fraud and need an ethical kick in the head.

 

[bum]

If you contact a manufacturer direct they will allow you to select wood and they will give you progress pictures
with appropriate markings to allow you to know it's legit. During the process you may reject the material
being used or request something else.

Here's the problem though, and it is a personal thing I know - I don't believe them. We've all seen the ads where they use a pic of a genuine Gibson then you receive nothing like it, we've seen the absolute trash some people get, we've seen guitars with no truss rods, no wiring, bent necks, cracked necks, fretboards lifting, necks literally falling off in transit, no hardware at all - we've seen these things, they happened, and they were made by the same factories you expect me to trust because they send a few pics (which may or may not be your guitar) and they promise with all their hearts that it'll be fine.

And for and extra £100 I can get an ESP / Squire / Epi / Gretsch etc? Hmmmmmmm, let me think about that one lol

Add this to the fact that their main business, and what keeps them open and trading is making knock off Gibsons, the 'BUT I MADE MY OWN LOGO!!!' means nothing to me, you are supplying companies with money that mainly make counterfeit rip offs of Gibsons, you have actively helped them stay in business and that to me is as bad as ordering a guitar with Gibson on it