Is a Gibson Standard SG worth $400 more than a Gibson 60s Tribute SG?

[Rocco Crocco]

These days Gibson is trying to survive by calling what has traditionally been their student- and entry-level guitars level "stripped down no nonsense rock and roll." It's Marketing BS 101. These are bargain-bin Christmas special-style Costco guitars for those who can't afford a traditional Gibson.

They have been doing this with the "Studio" line for decades. Calling them Costco guitars, well, is bullshit.

 

[JMB1984]

8 mils versus 3 - so a net of 5 mils?
5/1000s of an inch.

Well I don't know about the numbers you are posting but the difference in thickness has proven to be enough to make a difference.

 

[musicmaniac]

yes

+1

 

[SWeAT hOg]

Well I don't know about the numbers you are posting but the difference in thickness has proven to be enough to make a difference.

Where?

 

[Bobby Mahogany]

If that's of any interest to anyone, the 6 mil plastic sheets sold for construction should give an idea of the thickness of some finishes.

Personally, from experience, I do think the finish (type and thickness) has an impact on tone.
But I can understand people not believing this.
To each his own, preferences or beliefs.

In this case, the difference in the two models supersedes any thickness difference to start with.

 

[SWeAT hOg]

If that's of any interest to anyone, the 6 mil plastic sheets sold for construction should give an idea of the thickness of some finishes.

Personally, from experience, I do think the finish (type and thickness) has an impact on tone, but not audible to the human ear..

In this case, the difference in the two models supersedes any thickness difference to start with.

Fixed

 

[indravayu]

Gibson is having issues with its finishing department;

...but meanwhile Gibson Custom is now hiring an army of finishers!

 

[Cozmik Cowboy]

8 mils versus 3 - so a net of 5 mils?
5/1000s of an inch.

Or, 166% thicker.........

I don't understand about "Grade A" vs "Standard Grade". I've always seen wood rated from A (lowest) to AAAAA; WTF is "Standard"?

And I'd go for the Standard; higher gloss, case, bound - no comparison.

 

[Dirtyclinic]

I personally would pay $400 for the nicer finish, binding , inlayed logo, big fret markers, and the warm feeling that it is a standard.

 

[Bobby Mahogany]

If that's of any interest to anyone, the 6 mil plastic sheets sold for construction should give an idea of the thickness of some finishes.

Personally, from experience, I do think the finish (type and thickness) has an impact on tone.
But I can understand people not believing this.
To each his own, preferences or beliefs.

In this case, the difference in the two models supersedes any thickness difference to start with.

If that's of any interest to anyone, the 6 mil plastic sheets sold for construction should give an idea of the thickness of some finishes.

Personally, from experience, I do think the finish (type and thickness) has an impact on tone but not audible by the human ear.
But I can understand people not believing this.
To each his own, preferences or beliefs.

In this case, the difference in the two models supersedes any thickness difference to start with.

Fixed

If that's of any interest to anyone, the 6 mil plastic sheets sold for construction should give an idea of the thickness of some finishes.

Personally, from experience, I do think the finish (type and thickness) has an impact on tone but not audible by northernguitarguy's ear.
But I can understand people not believing this.
To each his own, preferences or beliefs.

In this case, the difference in the two models supersedes any thickness difference to start with.

Fixed

Maybe you've been playing too loud for too long.

 

[Gerr]

I don't understand about "Grade A" vs "Standard Grade". I've always seen wood rated from A (lowest) to AAAAA; WTF is "Standard"?

Well Gibson's description of the Standard SG says Grade-A where it doesn't mention anything about that in the Tribute series descriptions. "Standard grade" was just a term I came up with, but not sure how accurate it is. If the Standards are Grade-A, then what is the next step down, or are the Tributes also Grade-A and Gibson just didn't stress it?

 

[SWeAT hOg]

Fixed

Maybe you've been playing too loud for too long.

If your ear can hear a poly vs. nitro difference on the same electric guitar, then by God, you are something special. But, I suspect not. You're likely average like the rest of the planet.

 

[JMB1984]

Where?

There have been other threads/discussions on the thin finish wearing quickly. One is linked in post 14.

 

[SWeAT hOg]

There have been other threads/discussions on the thin finish wearing quickly. One is linked in post 14.

My mistake, I misunderstood your comment. I was getting caught up in the 'finish affects tone' nonsense. But yeah, a thin finish is gonna wear fast.

 

[P-90GoldTop]

I have a 2013 SG Std. It's worth every penny of the $1300 it cost me.

 

[woolenmammoth]

you know, you can buy an unfinished body, put a guitar together, go into a studio, record it, then finish that exact same piece of wood, record the exact same set up and then you will have scientific evidence to base your opinion on. Instead of pulling an opinion out of the thin air, or worse, base it on something you read on the internet.

believe what you like, bellittle who you like for considering otherwise, but there are folks that have done the above experiment and every last one of those people knows for sure what they think and why.

this should be food for thought, but suspect will just be disregarded.

 

[Grey]

but there are folks that have done the above experiment and every last one of those people knows for sure what they think and why.

I'd appretiate it if you could show me where these 'folks' have posted their findings.

 

[woolenmammoth]

Are you trying to insinuate that if we dont post a detailed report it somehow invalidates the work? You guys are a hoot. Better to just pick an opinion out of the thin air and wildly bandwagon on it. This is not a difficult experiment to conduct for yourself.

 

[RufusTelestrat]

In response to the initial question. For me yes. For you .... you decide. For the rest of the crap... MEH...

 

[Grey]

Are you trying to insinuate that if we dont post a detailed report it somehow invalidates the work? You guys are a hoot. Better to just pick an opinion out of the thin air and wildly bandwagon on it. This is not a difficult experiment to conduct for yourself.

You just said, in your own post, that people should not "base it on something you read on the internet". So i'm supposed to take your opinion at face value? Without corrorboration? Isn't that what you said I shouldn't do?

I want you to show me where this information comes from, or did you just read it somewhere online? Where are these people? Who are they?