- Oct 18, 2009
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Did anyone in this thread proffer any of these points?
Weird? How about having a person die of cancer without any pain medication inside a detention center, just because hell, it's a waste of money...
It happened, and nobody stood up to defend that woman because she was an "illegal". So death or extreme suffering? I'd say death is a more humane solution.
THAT IS THE REALITY, wether you want to admit it or not, that's why international observers are coming to evaluate ICE detention policies, that alone should be cause for concern. They're human, like you and me, maybe be mexican but that's completely irrelevant in my book.
OK OK.......we can just round them all up and put them in camps while we build the gas chambers and ovens...........that what you want right ?........and hey once they are gone we can move on to other folks......like those on welfare.......etc etc.
Then we can decide who is a real american and who is not.........then..........
+ 1 to zplapplap for his posts on this topic, the legal aspects of this are a real mess and its nice to see the facts for once.
I'm a Green Card and have therefore been through the 'legal' immigration process at a cost of approximately $10k, which is typical for a family GC process. Please excuse me if I am somewhat unimpressed when people get to come here and stay forever for free. Guys, there are about 6 billion foreigners out there who aren't currently in the US, so while we may sympathize with people who want to live a better life that cannot lead to any general form of entitlement to stay just because you happen to be here. Many would argue that in the specific cases of those who were brought here as minors some provision for status would be reasonable as part of a comprehensive immigration overhaul, and I would agree.
However, I disagree when employers are held up as the reason for the root cause of illegal immigration; employment is for sure the incentive for illegal immigrants, but until the Federal and State governments provide robust and linked information systems to confirm entitlement to any form of benefit or employment it is pretty hard to place all the burden on employers, especially small business.
The SSN is the key; anything you want from Government, you should have a VALID one of those. It's up to the SSA to aggressively enforce the integrity of the SSNs out there by running cross checks with other databases such as IRS and State tax boards, DMVs, and yes schools and colleges. If the SSN system had some integrity all agencies providing benefits or employment could then verify entitlement via the SSN and a Government issued ID card (like a driver license). Unfortunately, the agency databases out there just aren't talking to each other, so it goes on. One important impact on the rest of us, apart from bearing the costs of providing Government resources to un-entitled persons, is identity theft.