If Life In The US Becomes Untenable

Marshall & Moonshine

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I moved to Norway.

I’d sound like a douche bag if I told you how wonderful it really is. So I won’t.

There are few warm places to move to where it is easy to make money and have a decent life.

But seriously, if there are things you dislike about where you live, why not work to change them, rather than run away from them. Every place has its own form of crazy.

And... if you can live with yourself, you can live anywhere.
I’m half Norwegian, but I don’t know if I could handle all that diversity.
 

Marshall & Moonshine

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Really, I’d move to Montana.
From the few people I’ve interacted with there (who I wasn’t already friends with), I don’t think the National silliness is gonna make its way there.
There’s just too much land, and too many people with shotguns and shovels.
 

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Y'all bear in mind, the South is shut... Exceptions can be made after intensive interrogation, work history, musical equipment inventory, DNA map (no alien DNA, you ain't born on this big rock, don't come here), fondness for Duke mayo, dove shooting proficiency, willingness to accept the superiority of the SEC in college sports, expertise in BBQ science, your ketchup on a hot dog stance, and more determining factors as time goes on.

addendum: Under no circumstances will Frightened Irish football fans be allowed to even visit. We just can't have that, now can we?
 

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Vietnam (part-time, more if necessary), at least there's no pretending the system is anything different than what it is. The rules are clear. From what I've seen, you can do pretty much whatever you want, just stay out of politics. They realize the value of capitalism, and are leveraging it. Here in the States we're trying to tear it down.

American politics is a magnet for corrupt unscrupulous individuals. Every election cycle fewer and fewer good people are willing to run for office. Our politicians are corrupt, but pretend not do be.
 

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I think we should seriously consider a complete reset. Don't let any politician who currently holds office be eligible for re-election. Set term limits on every elected office. No more than 2 terms. Get back to citizen politicians that have some skin in the game because they will have to make a living in the real world with a real job when they are done with their political term. Outlaw all lobbying so these hypocritical fucks can't become millionaires on jobs that have upper middle class salaries. I've had enough of this oligarchy we pretend is a republic. It's still a damn fine country, but man are people just trying as hard as they can to wreck it every chance they get.
 

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Costa Rica is also a very stable democracy with sound economy and a faith that is less susceptible to full-on SJW wokeness. For now.
 

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So, my new plan is focused on Florida for at least the next 10-15 years.

[Considered many other places, but I am now pre-supposing being close to elderly parents for the endgame.]
  • Good taxation, health care, infrastructure in many areas is scalable and developer/community-funded.
  • Opportunity of exploit solar as it becomes more effective, exploit tax benefits.
  • Apart from Texas, the last standing rational state peering into the future. It's a race to the bottom with everyone fleeing NE cities, some may bring their bad 'feelz' ideology with them, sadly. Perhaps those with sense will go there first.
  • Further influx buoys real estate investments. Wise place to park money prior to next hop...
If things deteriorate further, or should we say when...

Citizenship-By-Investment strategy targeting a Caribbean nation with extensive list of No Visa travel destinations.
  • As I age out, reduce my stuff footprint including guitars and gear. Big part of my space allocation now.
  • Find amenable island, by then off-grid, localized resources will be more effective.
  • Projecting transportation becomes easier to make food, supplies, and quality health care more accessible.
  • Move there permanently as an advanced age senior
  • Move sooner AND renounce US citizenship to alleviate tax burden if taxation increases, socialism/communism gets real, wealth-grabbing, etc. Unless you renounce, the can tax Expat US citizens wherever they live in the planet
  • Die broke and happy!

Of note: shifting to a FIRE mindset after 30 years in... becoming very selective how I spend my time, who I work for/with, what furthers the agenda of my 'over-the-hump' glide plan.

Open to criticism, advice.
Aaah a future Florida man, I bet we will read about you in the papers. :laugh2:
 

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Quite happy in my fictional country. You guys in the States sure have some challenges. What gives me the shits is how our politicians see yours as benchmarks. No offence intended, I just think we're losing our identity. Bob Hawke was the best pollie ever.


“Any boss who sacks anyone for not turning up today is a bum.” – Amid champagne soaked celebrations after Australia II won the America’s Cup in 1983. — Bob Hawke

“Do you know why I have credibility? Because I don’t exude morality.” — Bob Hawke

"While society cannot provide employment for its members, the production/work/income nexus has to be abandoned as a justification for our present parsimony to the unemployed. An assumption cannot be used to justify making second-class citizens of those who are unfortunate enough to constitute living proof of the inaccuracy of that assumption." —
Bob Hawke
 

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