If Life In The US Becomes Untenable

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Where would you go? Anyplace you know of on the planet to go to escape the insanity? Give me some ideas. As much as I love the United States, the last 6 months has transformed it into something I don't recognize. Not saying I'm planning on leaving but was just thinking about what are the alternatives? I can't come up with anything attractive.
 

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Where would you go? Anyplace you know of on the planet to go to escape the insanity? Give me some ideas. As much as I love the United States, the last 6 months has transformed it into something I don't recognize. Not saying I'm planning on leaving but was just thinking about what are the alternatives? I can't come up with anything attractive.
I moved to Norway.

I’d sound like a douche bag if I told you how wonderful it really is. So I won’t.

There are few warm places to move to where it is easy to make money and have a decent life.

But seriously, if there are things you dislike about where you live, why not work to change them, rather than run away from them. Every place has its own form of crazy.

And... if you can live with yourself, you can live anywhere.
 

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There is a LOT of real estate in the US. Move out of the big city and life goes on as normal. They had to bus in protesters in to my town. There are a few BLM signs, and you see election campaign signs here and there, but small town USA is still pretty great from what I've seen. If this town became untenable, I'd just move further away from civilization. My wife acts like she couldn't do it, but I bet after a few weeks of peace and quiet in the mountains and she'd be on board with it.

But if I had to move to another country, I wouldn't mind something like New Zealand. Never been there, but you don't hear a lot of bad shit about it.
 

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My mom's side of the family is in the Philippines, but I don't think that place is any better in the current political climate. I could probably see myself somewhere in southeast Asia, perhaps Thailand.

I spent some time in Port Aransas, Texas near Corpus, and it was nice small town living.
 

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I'm not going anywhere. I'm gonna slug it out in my own backyard, take as many of them bastards with me as I can and die with my boots on among a pile of spent brass with my R6 GT strapped across my back.

Bring it the phuk on!
 

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Manila in the Philippines maybe. Or South Korea.

I love the US but it's getting really insane and I don't like the idea of throwing away its entire history.

I really see the push to allow all the illegal immigrants to be here (and vote) as a really underhanded and desperate move for one party to take over.

We have a two party system for a reason but it really seems like one party wants complete control. And that's just not America.
 

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There is a LOT of real estate in the US. Move out of the big city and life goes on as normal. They had to bus in protesters in to my town. There are a few BLM signs, and you see election campaign signs here and there, but small town USA is still pretty great from what I've seen. If this town became untenable, I'd just move further away from civilization. My wife acts like she couldn't do it, but I bet after a few weeks of peace and quiet in the mountains and she'd be on board with it.

But if I had to move to another country, I wouldn't mind something like New Zealand. Never been there, but you don't hear a lot of bad shit about it.

OK if we just glide into darkness...

What you propose becomes less tenable if you are 'cancelled' out of income earning, payment processing. Or firearms taken away. Or mandatory vaccinations by DNA alteration to be allowed to go outside.

There are a myriad 'frog in hot water' things afoot that make incremental distancing a problematic strategy. That's what I take from OP's characterization as 'untenable'. What you suggest is tenable.

YMMV :cheers:
 

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My mom's side of the family is in the Philippines, but I don't think that place is any better in the current political climate. I could probably see myself somewhere in southeast Asia, perhaps Thailand.

I spent some time in Port Aransas, Texas near Corpus, and it was nice small town living.

Thailand: Also look at Viet Nam.
 

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Where would you go? Anyplace you know of on the planet to go to escape the insanity? Give me some ideas. As much as I love the United States, the last 6 months has transformed it into something I don't recognize. Not saying I'm planning on leaving but was just thinking about what are the alternatives? I can't come up with anything attractive.

Perth, Australia. I love it there. Vacations in the Philippines.
 

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I'm going to buy land in Appalachia, a large lot, with lots of privacy, but no guard dogs, the pigs wold just eat them.

That was my plan but no state is safe from the New Rules. Even WV. I planned to move to SW-VA but now even the strongholds are subject to crazy state lawmaker's extreme folly aka Marxism USA
 
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I spent a year working in the non-existent country called Australia...I loved it there, but I'm not sure it's still the same as it was in the early 90s. I've spent a lot of time in Canada and I really like B.C...I could live there. Sadly though, I don't think there's anyplace you can escape the insanity...the whole world is eaten up with it.
 

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So, my new plan is focused on Florida for at least the next 10-15 years.

[Considered many other places, but I am now pre-supposing being close to elderly parents for the endgame.]
  • Good taxation, health care, infrastructure in many areas is scalable and developer/community-funded.
  • Opportunity of exploit solar as it becomes more effective, exploit tax benefits.
  • Apart from Texas, the last standing rational state peering into the future. It's a race to the bottom with everyone fleeing NE cities, some may bring their bad 'feelz' ideology with them, sadly. Perhaps those with sense will go there first.
  • Further influx buoys real estate investments. Wise place to park money prior to next hop...
If things deteriorate further, or should we say when...

Citizenship-By-Investment strategy targeting a Caribbean nation with extensive list of No Visa travel destinations.
  • As I age out, reduce my stuff footprint including guitars and gear. Big part of my space allocation now.
  • Find amenable island, by then off-grid, localized resources will be more effective.
  • Projecting transportation becomes easier to make food, supplies, and quality health care more accessible.
  • Move there permanently as an advanced age senior
  • Move sooner AND renounce US citizenship to alleviate tax burden if taxation increases, socialism/communism gets real, wealth-grabbing, etc. Unless you renounce, the can tax Expat US citizens wherever they live in the planet
  • Die broke and happy!

Of note: shifting to a FIRE mindset after 30 years in... becoming very selective how I spend my time, who I work for/with, what furthers the agenda of my 'over-the-hump' glide plan.

Open to criticism, advice.
 
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I'm not going anywhere but Austrailia always looks cool. Except them big ass insects. Parts of Canada as well. But I'm good right where I am.
 

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