Ideal rate of twist (MLP firearms and shooting thread)

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The XD9 was one of my first handguns.
If I had bought the SC, I probably would never have bought the G26.

Oh who am I kidding... I've got a G30 and G36, of course I would have bought the G26 sooner or later :D

That XD9 is a great little gun.
I rarely shoot it... but every time I do, I ask myself why I don't shoot it more often.
 

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I got it as a host for my first can. If it blew up, it wouldn't be a big loss. As it is now, it's a house anti-boarding tool. My 1911 45 is my EDC.
 
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Used to bother me. Then I saved them all out, and reloaded them for competitions where you could’nt pick up your brass
I don't much care either way - small or large. It's the mix of the two that's a pain in the ass. I try to keep it sorted out but I'm not always successful. Usually don't realize it until I've tried to put a large primer into a small pocket
 

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Bumping the thread with some random porn...


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Did you do a double take when you saw this image? A lot of people have since Fightlite Industries released these images.

“Meet the brand new Fightlite Industries Raider pistol in 300 Blk!” the company wrote on Instagram. “The Raider successfully bridges the capability gap between a common handgun and an individual battle carbine, delivering accurate overmatch performance compared to common pistol-caliber handguns and shotguns at extended shooting distances.”

The Raider successfully bridges the capability gap between a common handgun and an individual battle carbine, delivering accurate overmatch performance compared to common pistol-caliber handguns and shotguns at extended shooting distances.
The Raider has a 7.25″ barrel and an overall length of just 20.25″ with a base weight of 3.9 lbs. Chambered in either 5.56 NATO or 300 BLK, the Raider can accept any standard GI type detachable box magazine.

The Raider successfully bridges the capability gap between a common handgun and an individual battle carbine, delivering accurate overmatch performance compared to common pistol-caliber handguns and shotguns at extended shooting distances.
With an MSRP under $900, this is a pretty sweet Frankengun.
 

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Strange. I was talking to a guy who bought one of those "Mares Leg" lever guns (think Steve McQueen in "Wanted: Dead or Alive"). I was zeroing my 16" carbine and he pointed out how the shortened butt of the stock made it nothing more than a currio because you sure couldn't aim it accurately without being able to shoulder it. Sort of my impression on all these AR-type "pistols". Too small to bring "rifle attributes" to the game and too big to provide the small, light, concealable package that pistols are.

Different strokes.
 

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My favorite shorty is my old pre ban Colt 9mm AR15 carbine w/ collapsible stock, red dot, and 147gr Not gonna try to shoot it as a pistole....

A bud has a couple of the AR pistols with ‘arm brace’ stock. Interesting but not for me...

I do have the urge for a coach gun...
 

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Finally was able to find some ammo for my shield 45 and LCP 2. I paid about double the price as usual...$45 a box for RANGE AMMO.

Also picked up some HP ammo - they are running $60 a box. What the hell!

I've also come to the conclusion I'm done trying to carry IWB. IT's just too uncomfortable even with my sub compact shield. If I bend over it's so easy to catch a glimpse which is not acceptable at work.

Picked up a vedder pocket locker for my lcp 2. I figure if I get into a gun fight where the size of 380 vs 45 makes a huge difference I'm probably f*cked anyways.

I keep the shield at home for now and the LCP 2 stays on me.

Oh also I got the extended mag for the LCP 2 (factory). The pinky extension makes a world difference.
 

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Finally bought a Sig P238 for my wife. Originally she wanted a NOS two-tone model with rosewood grips. As the auction progressed, she decided she liked the rainbow titanium with rosewood grips. It's a nice looking little gun that ended up being VERY EXPENSIVE!

Any recommendations as to best ammo?


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always wanted the gun in this color.

Sig V crown shoots wonderfully through this
 

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Finally was able to find some ammo for my shield 45 and LCP 2. I paid about double the price as usual...$45 a box for RANGE AMMO.

Also picked up some HP ammo - they are running $60 a box. What the hell!

I've also come to the conclusion I'm done trying to carry IWB. IT's just too uncomfortable even with my sub compact shield. If I bend over it's so easy to catch a glimpse which is not acceptable at work.

Picked up a vedder pocket locker for my lcp 2. I figure if I get into a gun fight where the size of 380 vs 45 makes a huge difference I'm probably f*cked anyways.

I keep the shield at home for now and the LCP 2 stays on me.

Oh also I got the extended mag for the LCP 2 (factory). The pinky extension makes a world difference.
Try this. Still had some in stock as I write this.
 

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Strange. I was talking to a guy who bought one of those "Mares Leg" lever guns (think Steve McQueen in "Wanted: Dead or Alive"). I was zeroing my 16" carbine and he pointed out how the shortened butt of the stock made it nothing more than a currio because you sure couldn't aim it accurately without being able to shoulder it. Sort of my impression on all these AR-type "pistols". Too small to bring "rifle attributes" to the game and too big to provide the small, light, concealable package that pistols are.

Different strokes.
We actually had a guy locally who tried to add one to his CCW.
The instructor actually passed it and qualified him on it. He went to the SO to pick up his permit, and one of the Lieutenants came charging out of his office and ripped the guy a new A-hole, asking him if he thought carrying a concealed firearm was some kind of joke. Went on to say that he would make sure the instructor was removed from the county's approved list and the guy would NEVER get a CCW in California.

Ultimately, it got smoothed over and he was allowed to pick up his permit (with the AR removed).
I think the Lt was over the top... if that was a problem by policy, it should be outlined to the instructors.
But at the same time, I completely see his point. Particularly in CA, any AR pistol (at the time) had to have a fixed magazine and hold no more than 10 rounds. That right there makes it pretty useless as a defensive weapon.

They are fun range toys, and maybe OK for a bedside gun, where you may need to move in a confined area... but honestly, I think a G30 or a 92FS is better suited for the home.


My county handles training themselves, rather than farming it out to private instructors. I'd like to say that it reduces the amount of FUD and flat out incorrect legal information... but it doesn't.
However, it does maintain uniform standards for what is and is not acceptable for carry, including caliber limitations of .25 to .45
My instructor said that he has only seen two men qualify with the big Smith 44 and 454 Magnums.
 

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Yesterday while at the local gun shop I was astonished to see the empty handgun display cases. It was the end of the day and I asked the sales rep if they pulled the inventory and locked it in a safe at night. The answer was "no", they just don't have any handguns. Current events have created demand like never before. People are buying whatever is available, whether it's what they want or not.

Demand has been off-the-hook all year, but now it's even greater.
 

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When my LGS can't get stuff you know there is a problem.

 

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We actually had a guy locally who tried to add one to his CCW.
The instructor actually passed it and qualified him on it. He went to the SO to pick up his permit, and one of the Lieutenants came charging out of his office and ripped the guy a new A-hole, asking him if he thought carrying a concealed firearm was some kind of joke. Went on to say that he would make sure the instructor was removed from the county's approved list and the guy would NEVER get a CCW in California.
Totally a function of MAY vs SHALL issue.
 

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Totally a function of MAY vs SHALL issue.
CA is closer to "you want a what?" than May Issue. Hell, they don't even acknowledge applications in Santa Clara county. And that's in spite of the DA indicting for only political donors to the sheriff getting permits
 

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I couldn’t live in CA. My late stepdad lived out there in the golden years designing huge ass engines but left after retiring.... Away from the idiot cities would be nice but I ain’t paying all the taxes, both known and hidden... I don’t have to tell my sheriff shit about what guns I may or may not have. He doesn’t give a shit... If he was ever told to go get guns, my sheriff would say ‘you’ve lost your farking mind. I’m not, and by gawd you ain’t either. ‘ $1.75 gas too...Yep. We may be laid back down here but I like it.

Beautiful....but nope....
 


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