Ideal rate of twist (MLP firearms and shooting thread)

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@45WinMag , If I paint furniture with Duracoat is it safe to cure in the oven? I don't want repercussions to the food or from the old lady!
Get a used electric smoker. You should be able to fit an entire long gun in there, disassembled.

I thought Duracoat was air-dried overnight, though? Cerekote needs an oven.
 

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Get a used electric smoker. You should be able to fit an entire long gun in there, disassembled.

I thought Duracoat was air-dried overnight, though? Cerekote needs an oven.
I'd been reading a couple of sources and that was what I'd gotten out of it. Figured I'd ask the people that had done it!
 

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I bought the same one for my M&P.

It will be here Thursday.

On another forum, I've been warned I should have paid the extra $20 for a CMC (now out of stock).

Oh well... we'll see how it goes.
OTHER FORUM!? o_O WTF!
 

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P365s were awfully cheap on Monday. Good day for a NGD! Ya'll need to buy more pickups so I can afford those expensive magazines, now! :naughty:
 

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$450 with a Sig molded holster and 3 12rd Sig mags. Non-SAS. I've got the option to go back for another at the same price and I'm considering it.

Man, I really wanted to like the SAS, and I even think the sight is really cool and workable but I don't like that it's not adjustable and the reviews on factory accuracy seem 50/50. I'm not really into the compensated barrel on something so short or a PDW, either. Though it wasn't a prime factor and I could have trained around it, I also kept going for that slide release (I know it's just a stop) with my thumb out of habit.

On the other hand, I REALLY like the x-ray sights on the non-SAS. They are big and fast. I wouldn't pocket carry a striker-fired semi auto without also being in a holster so the anti-snag thing, although cool looking, wasn't an issue for me.
 

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That's a good deal, with the extra mags. Still available at that price?
Yes. Ace Hardware. I think they are franchises (mine is branded "Buck's Ace", so I don't know if the sales are the same price at all locations?
 

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Dang... your hardware stores are badass.
They really are. We have the big box stores too, but I like Ace. It's awesome to be able to buy a Sthill chainsaw, a Sig pistol, and some particular size machine screws all in one place, while being fed free fresh popcorn and local jerky, and dealing directly with the owner's family, who have direct experience with all of it. A rare gem of a find, these days!
 

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They really are. We have the big box stores too, but I like Ace. It's awesome to be able to buy a Sthill chainsaw, a Sig pistol, and some particular size machine screws all in one place, while being fed free fresh popcorn and local jerky, and dealing directly with the owner's family, who have direct experience with all of it. A rare gem of a find, these days!
I'm gonna print this and take it to my local Ace. No reason at all why we can't have all that. This is Ohio....we do everything gun here...even Rural King has a great gun counter and free popcorn. ACE needs to get with it here. :)
 
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They really are. We have the big box stores too, but I like Ace. It's awesome to be able to buy a Sthill chainsaw, a Sig pistol, and some particular size machine screws all in one place, while being fed free fresh popcorn and local jerky, and dealing directly with the owner's family, who have direct experience with all of it. A rare gem of a find, these days!
I have been short-changed!
 
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If it's the same Bucks Ace I know of, that place is awesome! Ace is the place :) The couple Ace stores near me are the only places where I can find stainless metric fasteners. Very helpful when working on old Japanese motorcycles and Land Rovers.

The Cabelas near me had the P365 for $399 on Black Friday. No holster or extra mags though. Still, I should have bought one.
 

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Possibly worth mentioning is that Sig has quietly redesigned the P365 at least three times since its release only about 2 years ago (without product model / name changes) due to problems with the striker, striker spring, trigger group, ejector and night sights.

Those problems with the early ones are the only reason I waited this long. I've had my eye on one since the first prototypes but (wisely, it turns out) waited for them to prove themselves reliable. I'm a big fan of the LC9S Pro and the P365 is like a hugely upgraded version of it. Just a hair smaller, but with the same barrel length, longer sight radius, higher grip, better trigger, 5 more rounds (how do they do that magic?!) and factory night sights.

For anyone considering one, they have a "born on" date on the side of the box. Get one with a recent date for the latest and most reliable version. :thumb:
 

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Thanks for the review Who, I should be getting mine tomorrow. I won’t be able to install it for a least a few weeks, unfortunately.
 
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Mine arrived today. It's installed in my M&P 15-22.

Pro:
  • $83 and came with a free Aero Precision field repair kit (spare AR parts)
  • Comes with the allen-key anti-rotation pins
  • Easy install
  • Better trigger pull than "mil-spec"
  • Legit 3.5 lb pull. On my scal, it trips at 3.4-3.5 every time.

Con:
  • Creep

If shooting fast or range-plinking, you'll never notice. If prepping the trigger for a precision shot... you'll feel it.

It doesn't advertise itself as a precision trigger, so no complaint. BUT.... I got a Timney for only $20 more that is a better trigger.


@$83, is it the best trigger upgrade for the money? Maybe. But with the competition being only $20 more (during the sales) I wouldn't buy one of these again for anything except a "budget" gun.



I hear @SteveC now.... "buy once, cry once". I blame thank Steve for getting me to try out aftermarket triggers, though.
Agreed... the ones I know of are in 15-22's that used for Steel Challenge, where the need is for a lighter pull, shorter reset -- facilitating quick, rapid fire shooting. It's a good, cheap trigger for the purpose.

The problem with all of the cassette-type triggers in the 15-22 is the 15-22's polymer lower. You have to be careful with how hard you tighten the trigger set screws. You don't want to have too much upward pressure on the trigger pins. That will elongate the trigger pin holes over time, essentially ruining the lower.

In the spirit of buy once.... I run Geissle SSA E's in all my AR platforms. That two stage trigger gives me the smooth feel, along with a clean, creep-free break for precise work. And, you just pull straight through both stages for rapid fire needs. But, it comes at a price, though. Cry once
 

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It should be good, but keep an eye out for the pins walking. If they do, put a bit of blue loctite on the set screws and tighten them down just enough, to where you start to feel resistance.
 
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I've found I really like the Hiperfire trigger system and think I might replace all my Velocity drop-ins with them.

I only put the Velocitys in last winter and hardly used three of them. If they would be a benefit to anyone here, reach out. I think I even still have all the original packaging for all four of them. They are these, in particular (3lb): https://velocitytriggers.com/product/classic-ar-trigger-curved/
 

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It doesn't advertise itself as a precision trigger, so no complaint. BUT.... I got a Timney for only $20 more that is a better trigger.
+1 on liking my Timney on my PR (Calvin Elite).
 

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Gotta say - the Sig molded holster is pretty worthless. As an IWB, it doesn't stay put, the hooks don't stay on the belt and like to twist, and it's pretty uncomfortable for me. As an OWB, well, I wouldn't know because the thin little belt slot doesn't allow for the thickness of a single belt I own.

Looking forward to getting the Crossbreed I ordered but I imagine it will be a few weeks after all the holiday sales.
 
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