I made Joe B quit Insta - Really

[TheX]

I'm a big time Joe fan. I think bullies are hiding something they're lacking, but it's none of my business.

 

[GearHo]

The remark is more ball busting than anything else.

There is a lot I like about Joe, he can play, he seems kind to many that he doesn’t have to be, he is a gear hound for real, he makes enough money to buy nice things. He pushes the brands to bring certain guitars, across all price ranges to consumers.

Really the only part about him that is bothersome are these childishly sensitive,narcissistic responses to people that don’t matter.

Having said that may he turn lemon into lemonade, and capitalize on his follicle fallout.
The new Joe Baldermassa hair crème, vintage or new, we have hair for you!

for an extra fee we can provide the historic combover, new hair, any color you want

 

[GearHo]

I have most of his albums.
One cut that is particularly entertaining is from "A New Day Now", he did a punk version of Dylan's "I Want You"

Was looking forward to using a meet & greet ticket that I got with the Black Beauty, but those were put on hold because of the vid, and probably won't work out for me without travel anyways, because the local venue he plays is usually The Greek Theater, and they don't do the M&G at shows that are recorded.

Stylistically, he's all over the place. His more recent albums tend to be more thematic (and a bit heavier), while his older albums tended to have more variety... which wasn't always a good thing when moving from a hard rock/punk style into a heavy blues song.

I just bought this cd, heard Some clips it sounds great ,some thin parts up top but still sounds fabulous

 

[Chango Malo]

Dammit.

Joe porchpirated my Scamazon delivery this afternoon.



Sumbitch

 

[Noah330]

My grandson is 'spectrum' and doing very well, dealing with it....

I think Joe is pretty isolated, socially.... He's always been on a pedestal so to speak which equates with, for lack of a better analogy, surrounded by ass kissers... When Danny Gatton hands you his guitar to play when you're about twelve, yeah, you're pretty much somebody..... Folks like that can be unable to read 'good natured ribbing' we all deal with and deal out in everyday life for the most part... Folks that are a bit sheltered can have major issues with little things that we laugh at, knowing what it is.... Some have never been close enough to real friends or family to experience that....so they are unable to deal with the small stuff....it ain't small to them... Your closest friends usually give you the most shit.... And some folks are tender.... Not good, bad, or anything...just is.... Constant bullying is a different animal, however...

I think he's probably messed up because of hanging around with creepy adults that put him on a pedestal instead of hanging out with kids his own age who probably didn't care that he even played guitar. When I was in the 7th grade I saved all my money and bought a used Gibson Les Paul Standard. This would have been in maybe 1988 or something. I had like three friends who cared because they liked Kiss. The rest of my friends thought I was crazy for not buying Air Jordans or a Sega.

As I said, we're about the same age and there were some of us who were into music at my high school (of 4000) but it wasn't like playing basketball or something. Honestly, and I don't mean any disrespect by saying this but Danny Gatton wasn't famous either. Ask 100 people at Target who he was and maybe 2 or 3 will know. Then ask them who Eric Clapton, Cardi B, and John Mayer are. That's fame, not being someone that only weirdos like us know.

Not saying JB is a bad guitar player only that he's not a famous one. Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Slash, and Eddie Van Halen are famous guitar players. Again, ask 100 random people to name a guitar player and I would be shocked if one of them said Massa Joe.

I have a friend who was a professional athlete and now is a junkie because he had those types of parents that tried to live their own failed dreams through their kids. Nice kid but he was so messed up because of all the weird pressure his dad and mom put on him that he just couldn't deal with. Very sad story and by a professional athlete I mean MLB/NBA/NHL type of athlete, not some farm league type of thing. I'm not going to out the guy here but it's a tragic story. Not sure what Massa Joe's parents did but it seems like a classic case of what happens to those types of kids. Maybe he wasn't one of those, like I said I have no idea. He's a talented guy but obviously can't take criticism. Has he even ever been in a band with kids his own age?

Like I said, I feel bad for the guy but I can't watch anything he does because he depresses the crap out of me. I hope someday he makes some friends his own age and finds a husband/wife.

OTOH Sy Sperling should reach out to Massa. He probably would endorse HCM for a few sheckles.

 

[MikeyTheCat]

I think he's probably messed up because of hanging around with creepy adults that put him on a pedestal instead of hanging out with kids his own age who probably didn't care that he even played guitar. When I was in the 7th grade I saved all my money and bought a used Gibson Les Paul Standard. This would have been in maybe 1988 or something. I had like three friends who cared because they liked Kiss. The rest of my friends thought I was crazy for not buying Air Jordans or a Sega.

As I said, we're about the same age and there were some of us who were into music at my high school (of 4000) but it wasn't like playing basketball or something. Honestly, and I don't mean any disrespect by saying this but Danny Gatton wasn't famous either. Ask 100 people at Target who he was and maybe 2 or 3 will know. Then ask them who Eric Clapton, Cardi B, and John Mayer are. That's fame, not being someone that only weirdos like us know.

Not saying JB is a bad guitar player only that he's not a famous one. Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Slash, and Eddie Van Halen are famous guitar players. Again, ask 100 random people to name a guitar player and I would be shocked if one of them said Massa Joe.

I have a friend who was a professional athlete and now is a junkie because he had those types of parents that tried to live their own failed dreams through their kids. Nice kid but he was so messed up because of all the weird pressure his dad and mom put on him that he just couldn't deal with. Very sad story and by a professional athlete I mean MLB/NBA/NHL type of athlete, not some farm league type of thing. I'm not going to out the guy here but it's a tragic story. Not sure what Massa Joe's parents did but it seems like a classic case of what happens to those types of kids. Maybe he wasn't one of those, like I said I have no idea. He's a talented guy but obviously can't take criticism. Has he even ever been in a band with kids his own age?

Like I said, I feel bad for the guy but I can't watch anything he does because he depresses the crap out of me. I hope someday he makes some friends his own age and finds a husband/wife.

OTOH Sy Sperling should reach out to Massa. He probably would endorse HCM for a few sheckles.

I think you're confusing fame with success.
And you may be reading more into Joe B's life than is there.

 

[Noah330]

For all of the shit that 'Malm gets for being overly technical and lacking in emotion.....
That goes with the territory for the Neo-classical shredding of the 80s and early 90s.
You never hear anyone say that about Ola Englund, or Dime, or any of the other hundreds of shredders.

But Yngwie was one of the originals to bring it to the mainstream... his insufferable ego didn't help with his public perception.
But when he transitions from shredder to Hendrix covers, he is far from sterile and emotionless.

The difference between Malmsteen and Joe "Bonna" Massa is that (1) Yngvie Malmsteen actually did something new and spawned a new style of music and (2) Yngvie doesn't seem to care if people tease him about doughnuts and leather pants.

Bonna is a good guitar player but I don't think he's an innovator or anything. What I've heard of his playing is pretty derivative. Sure, Malmsteen liked Ritchie Blackmore, Clapton and probably EVH but he kind of took it and made it his own thing. With "Bonna" you hear the Clapton lick, the Eric "John" Stone lick, the SRV lick, etc....

The one thing he seems to have in common with Yngvie is neither of them can write a good tune.

Yngvie is a huge talent and I can listen to maybe 43 seconds of any of his songs (about the same as Bonna), but I love seeing him interviewed and enjoyed his book. The guy came to America, couldn't speak the language, worked hard, and made his fortune. By all accounts, he's slightly easier to work with than Vinnie Vincent but I've never seen him act like a 6-year-old if some random person said something slightly unkind to him online.

I watched a free doc about Bonna on Amazon a while back. It was depressing as all heck after about twenty minutes I put on Schindler's List to cheer myself up. Seriously, the guy is a bringdown.

 

[rich85]

 

[Noah330]

I think you're confusing fame with success.
And you may be reading more into Joe B's life than is there.

How successful has he been if he's getting bent out of shape for some random person on the internet implying he's losing his hair?

Success is being secure, happy, and surrounded by family and friends. Not amplifiers and guitars. I say this as someone who has a bunch of guitars.

If success is happiness then Massa Joe seems to have failed miserably. Let's hope he turns it around because it's really sad.

I know very little about his life aside from the fact that he comes across as really depressing, plays to a geriatric crowd, and apparently is losing his hair. I'm just speculating based upon his creepie demeanor.

 

[TheX]

How successful has he been if he's getting bent out of shape for some random person on the internet implying he's losing his hair?

Success is being secure, happy, and surrounded by family and friends. Not amplifiers and guitars. I say this as someone who has a bunch of guitars.

If success is happiness then Massa Joe seems to have failed miserably. Let's hope he turns it around because it's really sad.

I know very little about his life aside from the fact that he comes across as really depressing, plays to a geriatric crowd, and apparently is losing his hair. I'm just speculating based upon his creepie demeanor.

You seem very *familiar* with Joe. Something else to the story?

 

[edro]

Third rate bromance, low fat cheeze fondue..

 

[TheX]

Third rate bromance, low fat cheeze fondue..

Not that there's anything *chuckle* wrong with that.

 

[rockstar232007]

Never equated ADD/HD with "elitist know it all vibes", but there is often some sort of social disconnect associated with it (my son is "on the spectrum" and has ADHD), so that could be where the awkward behavior comes from.

Most of the guys I know who have it, always have a "1-upper" attitude.

 

[MikeyTheCat]

How successful has he been if he's getting bent out of shape for some random person on the internet implying he's losing his hair?

Success is being secure, happy, and surrounded by family and friends. Not amplifiers and guitars. I say this as someone who has a bunch of guitars.

If success is happiness then Massa Joe seems to have failed miserably. Let's hope he turns it around because it's really sad.

I know very little about his life aside from the fact that he comes across as really depressing, plays to a geriatric crowd, and apparently is losing his hair. I'm just speculating based upon his creepie demeanor.

"I say this as someone who has a bunch of guitars."

Well, that is what makes most of us here in the Backstage authorities on many subjects including laws in various states and countries, financial advice, okra, cake, what to do in Tijuana and how to care for your burro if you've found love while there.

Success is whatever you want it to be based on your goals. My goal at one point was to be a professional musician, that failed. Second goal was to be gainfully employed in my career, that was a success.

FWIW I wouldn't disparage Joe's geriatric crowd here as some of us do order off the 60 and over menu at Golden Corral.

 

[1allspub]

IDK, but psychoanalysing some from a distance that you don’t know always seems pointless and, often appears to be more about the analyzer than the subject of the analysis.

“Good-natured ribbing” is part of male bonding... but you don’t rib someone you don’t personally know (that’s just insulting someone). My friends and I are great at ball-busting each other. It’s a give-and-take game for sure... but we know each other very well, we know we are just giving each other sh!t! And it’s all in fun. But if you don’t know someone personally, and say those kind of things to them... well, you’re more than likely to get a punch in the schnoz! Just sayin....

IDK... I’m just not a big fan of intentionally trying to embarrass someone or steal their dignity. I don’t give any of my friends crap about something in their life that A) they don’t give themselves crap about and/or B) isn’t something that we both have in common (ie, if I was gaining weight and so was my friend, I’d be ok in giving him crap about it—because I know I’d get it right ).

But, hey... everybody’s different and we all have our blind spots.

 

[cybermgk]

Success is being secure, happy, and surrounded by family and friends. Not amplifiers and guitars. I say this as someone who has a bunch of guitars.

If success is happiness then Massa Joe seems to have failed miserably. Let's hope he turns it around because it's really sad.

That is YOUR definition of success. But, it's not every one's, Everyone should determine what success means to them.

But many don't. If you were to poll a large swath of people you would see a departure from that and see some consensus. Things like "top of profession", rich, famous etc, would be answers with more than a few respondents saying so.

And anyone with a little knowledge, common sense, etc, would know, that to achieve some of those perceptions of SUCCESS, particularly, top of profession, when it comes to performing related pursuits (acting, music, etc), is that it takes certain personality traits, one could even call psychological flaws to achieve those heights.

In simple terms, things like narcissism, even confidence levels, that are boorish at best to others are part in parcel with making it to the top. People SEEK fame so often to fill holes in their psyche. They so so,thinking it will make them happy finally. But, like so many things people do for the same reason, sex, eating, etc. it fails because it never fills that hole or holes. And a narcissistic personality, by definition, can NEVER have enough praise an adoration.

As Doc Holliday said in Tombstone, "A man like Ringo has got a great big hole, right in the middle of him. He can never kill enough, or steal enough, or inflict enough pain to ever fill it."

And there are a rare few people that make it to the top, CEO of a large company, A list actor, top musician, you name it, without an over abundance of confidence. As Tom Wolf said in the book, The Right Stuff about test pilots, and I paraphrase, "What they do is dangerous. Every time they go up, it could be their last. So, of course, they make themselves believe they are the best, period. To not do so would bring their demise".

Suffice it to say, if you got an honest poll of top actors, specially, but musicians as well, you would find a lot of unsatisfied, unhappy people. It's that very nature that drives them to get to that point, and stay there.

And yes, this is a generalization, and yes, there are examples that don't fit in said generalization.

 

[edro]

without an over abundance of confidence.

Confidence is a big deal.... A man's gotta be comfortable in his own skin...

Some confuse confidence and arrogance.... Many folks are unable to distinguish between the two...and usually the same go through life with confidence issues... It's a typical humern thang...

Some folks never attempt to get past a first impression.....If they did, they just might find that their first impression was grossly incorrect.... due to their own issues...

 

[cybermgk]

How successful has he been if he's getting bent out of shape for some random person on the internet implying he's losing his hair?

Success is being secure, happy, and surrounded by family and friends. Not amplifiers and guitars. I say this as someone who has a bunch of guitars.

If success is happiness then Massa Joe seems to have failed miserably. Let's hope he turns it around because it's really sad.

I know very little about his life aside from the fact that he comes across as really depressing, plays to a geriatric crowd, and apparently is losing his hair. I'm just speculating based upon his creepie demeanor.

First we do not have the context of his getting 'bent out of shape'.

Maybe the OP elaborated more (I haven't read all 13 pages prior to this. But, all we have is the OP, which has little or no context.

What Joe B DID say, is that he is finding Social Media a drag on his time, that brings no, or not enough benefit, and in fact, in some cases, like this one, detriment with it.

Perhaps the conversation was a good one about some subject, and then the OP, posts the hair dig, out of the blue.

We also don't know that that is ALL the OP posted. Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. OP seems proud of themselves, so that does make me lean to there was more than the one comment. We also know, that there were others as well.

Whatever you may think of Joe B, I would hope you can agree, he is likely a very busy man. Spending any time on social media, is surprising for anyone like him. And, anyone that has spent any time on Social Media, would be blind or lying if they said it isn't a cesspool.

 

[MikeyTheCat]

Joe:

"I don't know. I think a lot of it's the marketing, I think some of it is just judging a book by its cover, I mean, I'm up there on stage dressed like a stunt double from 'The Matrix' movie, you know?
"'Who does he think he is?' 'What's up with the dark glasses?' Well, I'm light sensitive. If you shine a spotlight in my face, I tear up, I can't deal with the spotlight. That's why I started wearing sunglasses.
"And you're like, 'Well, he didn't wear them earlier.' I didn't have a spotlight, OK? We were playing clubs...
"As soon as we started playing venues, it was the spotlights. 'Oh my god, this is... This is bad!' And I think a lot of it has to do with - I guess I'm slightly misunderstood, I'm slightly socially awkward, and I'm very opinionated, you know - like everybody is.
"But you know, I went through a media training course. And I was like, 'Well, I can be just vanilla and a puppy dog my whole life, or I can just be honest.'
"And if being honest means being polarizing, then I would choose being honest 100% of the time. You don't have to agree with me - it just one person's opinion. Just like you have an opinion about me, I have an opinion about something else.
"And I could have an opinion about you. It doesn't matter - because, at the end of the day, we're not in a business that has to adhere to these guidelines. We're in the people-pleasing business. If somebody likes it, more power to you...
"I just have a way of saying things sometimes, and a very dry sense of humor, that the humor goes over people's heads and they think I'm serious. It wasn't a conscious decision - I don't wake up in the morning saying, 'Let me say something that's going to get people riled up.'
"I just say what's on my mind sometimes. And I come from a time when it was a lot more - you had to really play to be noticed because there was no YouTube, there was no Instagram, there was no Twitter, and social media outlets...
"I'm not sliding anybody who does it but if I see something impressive on Instagram, my first reaction's like, 'How many takes was that?' As opposed to going, 'Yeah, you're live, the red light's on.'
"There's no right or wrong, I'm just saying that's where my mind goes. It's also, 'OK, you do it in your studio, your bedroom. Can you do it with other musicians? Are you listening to what everybody else is playing?'
"I was brought up - I was one of the last generations to be brought up in a non-social-media time, which I'm glad I did. I feel sorry for people who...
"I had a guest on my show [Brandon Niederauer], he played 'The Star-Spangled Banner' on guitar in front of the AFC championship game with the Kansas City Chiefs. I said, 'What were you most nervous about?'
"He goes 'Becoming a meme.' And I laughed at first but then I started thinking, 'Oh my god, that's so sad.' And he's like 18 or 19 years old and a great player, a great musician with a hugely bright future.
"But in the back of his mind is, 'Don't screw this up because some idiot will make a meme out of me... and try to' - I don't know - 'sour my good name throughout the interwebs.'
"That is so effed-up. It's beyond my comprehension because everybody claims hard, everybody sticks it. They did it to Joe Jonas too, at The Grammys.
"Listen, you got no soundcheck, OK? It's not his fault - everybody clams. But no, of course, it's got to spread and spread."

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[Dilemma]

He makes some valid points. I don't own a single JB song but I am aware of him and what he does. With that out of the way -

I *like* the fact he dresses like a stunt double from 'The Matrix.' I think for what he does it works well for him. It beats wearing a fucking marching band uniform. (Looking at you Eric Johnson)

The sunglasses don't bug me either. They fit the 'Cool' look he's cultivated.

His Instagram observations are spot on.

Imagine being 18-19 years old, trying to build a career and having to worry about becoming a meme. Most of us here are past the age of giving even the smallest fuck about such things. Hell, many don't even participate in social media. If you put yourself out there some shit *will* come your way. At 60 years old my opinion is you can blow me in the town square at high-noon. But at 18, that'd weigh on a kid I'd think.

As for Jonas? He's a twat. But from what I recall he had a good laugh at himself and admitted he fucked up. Good on him for that. If I were him? I'd get the best instructor money could buy woodshed like a beast. Next time I got a spot like that on the Grammys I'd burn the fuckin' house down. Still a twat though.