Hey Darrell, Have You Seen This?

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@DarrellV...I thought you might be interested in this...


I’ve always wondered about those 3 holes on each side of the bottom of that bridge!
 

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Well, thank you kindly! :cheers:

The three hole thing is to allow for a wider range of intonation as needed by different guitars.

For all of its coolness, the saddles on the top adjust don't move all that far in their slots.

Then they can be turned around for more travel, but are still pretty limited on travel range. Like the ABR 1.

Compared to the wide range of this Schaller....



Even the Nashville sought to give more range of adjustment.

The three holes allow for the whole bridge unit to be mounted at a greater or lesser angle to the neck, then fine tuned with the saddles..

This would also explain why these models did not have exposed stud pins. Would have been ugly!:eek2:
 
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Gotta put a shout out to @kakerlak ..

He's the only one I know of on here that actually has one of these in house..
 

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A modern equivalent, except for the rollers..

 

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I wonder what the production/install breakdown is on brass vs. nylon -- it doesn't seem like the nylon ones were reserved for guitars with vibratos or anything. My wife's '82 SG has brass inserts. Weirder than anything to me is the fact that they made the Nashville saddle version and decided that it was for Les Pauls. There doesn't seem to be any logic to that.
 

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I wonder what the production/install breakdown is on brass vs. nylon -- it doesn't seem like the nylon ones were reserved for guitars with vibratos or anything. My wife's '82 SG has brass inserts. Weirder than anything to me is the fact that they made the Nashville saddle version and decided that it was for Les Pauls. There doesn't seem to be any logic to that.
One word.... Norlin! :laugh2:

Thanks for dropping in! :cheers:
 

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For all of tits coolness, the saddles on the top adjust don't move all that far in their slots.

Then they can be turned around for more travel, but are still pretty limited on travel range. Like the ABR 1.
Actually I was referring more to the Les Paul nashville bridge he discusses near the end of the video. The one that has the standard intonation screws...the one that came stock on both of our 82s. That one also has the 6 holes, 7 positions to choose from.

On my LP I’ve always used the middle to middle position...since the guitar intonates perfectly, no need to use the other positions.
 

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Actually I was referring more to the Les Paul nashville bridge he discusses near the end of the video. The one that has the standard intonation screws...the one that came stock on both of our 82s. That one also has the 6 holes, 7 positions to choose from.

On my LP I’ve always used the middle to middle position...since the guitar intonates perfectly, no need to use the other positions.
I was gonna ask you about that.

That explains why no post holes on those bridges. Multiple holes..... Mystery solved!
 

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Howdy! Off and on lurker but never posted. I have an '81 Artisan that has that bridge paired with a TP6 tail piece. I always liked it and wondered why they put it on so few guitars. Also wondered why they didn't bring it back when they started trying out stuff like the adjustable nut and auto tuners. At least it worked . . .
 

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Howdy! Off and on lurker but never posted. I have an '81 Artisan that has that bridge paired with a TP6 tail piece. I always liked it and wondered why they put it on so few guitars. Also wondered why they didn't bring it back when they started trying out stuff like the adjustable nut and auto tuners. At least it worked . . .
Wow I guess you have been an “off and on lurker” @GTRFXR...you’ve been a member here for almost 6 years and this is your first post!!

Glad to hear from you ! :applause:

So tell me, which of the 7 positions do you use on that bridge?

Oh...and how about some pics of your 81 Artisan? :D
 

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Howdy! Off and on lurker but never posted. I have an '81 Artisan that has that bridge paired with a TP6 tail piece. I always liked it and wondered why they put it on so few guitars. Also wondered why they didn't bring it back when they started trying out stuff like the adjustable nut and auto tuners. At least it worked . . .
Wow I guess you have been an “off and on lurker” @GTRFXR...you’ve been a member here for almost 6 years and this is your first post!!

Glad to hear from you ! :applause:

So tell me, which of the 7 positions do you use on that bridge?

Oh...and how about some pics of your 81 Artisan? :D

What he said! :welcome: to the fray! Glad you came out to play!:cheers:

We've all wondered why only a couple years...

I'd bet it was mostly economic in that Schaller won the bid that year or 2 for the tuners and bridges.

There was a lot of innovation going on around this time and it seemed Gibson was more open to it.

The TOM Schaller no hole bridge and the top adjust are just 2 examples.
 

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I'd bet it was mostly economic in that Schaller won the bid that year or 2 for the tuners and bridges.

There was a lot of innovation going on around this time and it seemed Gibson was more open to it.

The TOM Schaller no hole bridge and the top adjust are just 2 examples.

According to
Trogly ... he said in the video that Norlin owned the patent and “Gibson made the bridge themselves” so I’m not sure what that means. Is it a Schaller bridge or not?

Maybe @Trogly can chime in and clarity.
 

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According to
Trogly ... he said in the video that Norlin owned the patent and “Gibson made the bridge themselves” so I’m not sure what that means. Is it a Schaller bridge or not?

Maybe @Trogly can chime in and clarity.
The top adjust unit is a Gibson invention and was designed by a guy working for them at the time. Wally or something like that.

The one on your guitar, the hole less Nashville, is the one I always heard and read of as being a Schaller. They still make it with rollers, and Heritage used it for years.

The tuners are Schaller too in that era and the speedwinders are theirs as well.

If not, I'm in a lot of trouble...:Ohno:
 

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According to
Trogly ... he said in the video that Norlin owned the patent and “Gibson made the bridge themselves” so I’m not sure what that means. Is it a Schaller bridge or not?

Maybe @Trogly can chime in and clarity.
Is Trogly a member of MLP ?
 




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