Hesitation on my first pedalboard...

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I beilive his is a loop master. They are very good units at very reasonable prices, but they arent programable just puts all your switches right out front. If you are looking to have say multiple pedal come on at once you need to run them together to one loop on these loopers where as programable units can have many pedals turn on at once and save the presets to be recalled at any time. I honestly think for most players programable is overkill, very cool but overkill.
I will be purchasing a loop master 8 loop with master bypass and tuner input in the near future which can be had right now for $129. Thats pretty stupid cheap.
Yep, Loop-Master is great, just be prepared to WAIT for your order. Like 8 weeks of waiting. I don't think his price can be beat; you'd have to build it yourself to get that quality and value.

And yes, the programmable loopers are killer, but expensive. However, some have an FX loop send, which is all kinds of cool. And any pedal is assignable to either the loop, or to be directly in the signal path-without rerouting your pedals. Cool. You can also run them in any order you want. More cool. I believe that BOSS makes the creme de la creme of programmable pedals, for a good chunk of change. I'd go for one, but that would be akin to a guy looking for a yacht ending up with an aircraft carrier.
 

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Gigrig g2 imo is the creme de la creme, the boss is great too.
Boss is like $800cdn and the g2 is like $2000cdn so im never getting either lol.
But the loop master is good with me, and for the price I'll wait patiently.
 

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I beilive his is a loop master. They are very good units at very reasonable prices, but they arent programable just puts all your switches right out front. If you are looking to have say multiple pedal come on at once you need to run them together to one loop on these loopers where as programable units can have many pedals turn on at once and save the presets to be recalled at any time. I honestly think for most players programable is overkill, very cool but overkill.
I will be purchasing a loop master 8 loop with master bypass and tuner input in the near future which can be had right now for $129. Thats pretty stupid cheap.


Ok thanks for that White.
Won't go into much detail but what I want to do with a looper is step on button one and have lets say the comp /Beano/ Marvel FX all come on at the same time. Step on another button and have the SFT/Beano and BB Pre come on at the same time.
All the way down the line with different pedal combo's.
Does the Loop Master do that ?
BP
 

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No you'll want the boss es 5 or es 8 or a similar programable looper for that.
The really good ones like the gigrig or the boss units can even augment where every pedal is in the chain without physically moving the cabling. So you can quickly experiment with say your comp before or after dirt just with a few pedal clicks vs removing and rerouting cables.
 

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I beilive his is a loop master. They are very good units at very reasonable prices, but they arent programable just puts all your switches right out front. If you are looking to have say multiple pedal come on at once you need to run them together to one loop on these loopers where as programable units can have many pedals turn on at once and save the presets to be recalled at any time. I honestly think for most players programable is overkill, very cool but overkill.
I will be purchasing a loop master 8 loop with master bypass and tuner input in the near future which can be had right now for $129. Thats pretty stupid cheap.


By the way I went onto the Loop Master site and it said this...."The downside to this is that each effect won't be assigned it's own switch so choose accordingly....

Does that mean that if I have an O/D hooked in with a treble boost, for example, the O/D will not be available to use by itself ?
BP
 
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No you'll want the boss es 5 or es 8 or a similar programable looper for that.
The really good ones like the gigrig or the boss units can even augment where every pedal is in the chain without physically moving the cabling. So you can quickly experiment with say your comp before or after dirt just with a few pedal clicks vs removing and rerouting cables.


Thanks...at those prices I'll just stick to my stomp and play ( Trade mark registered lol) !
 

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With theirs you can either hook say 8 pedals to 8 individual loops and just turn them on and off with individual buttons (with master bypass models you can enable the bypass effectively turning everything off at once). Or you could make multiple pedals in mini loops and plug them in to one loop allowing you to turn them on all at once, but not selectable individualy.
Where as programable ones can turn every loop on or off individually and allow you to program presets where multiple loops are activated at once.
 

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Yep, Loop-Master is great, just be prepared to WAIT for your order. Like 8 weeks of waiting. I don't think his price can be beat; you'd have to build it yourself to get that quality and value.

And yes, the programmable loopers are killer, but expensive. However, some have an FX loop send, which is all kinds of cool. And any pedal is assignable to either the loop, or to be directly in the signal path-without rerouting your pedals. Cool. You can also run them in any order you want. More cool. I believe that BOSS makes the creme de la creme of programmable pedals, for a good chunk of change. I'd go for one, but that would be akin to a guy looking for a yacht ending up with an aircraft carrier.


Having an aircraft carrier is a good thing ! lol
 

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Thanks...at those prices I'll just stick to my stomp and play ( Trade mark registered lol) !
Yeah they are crazy pricey, really cool but too rich for my blood as well.
The loop master with master bypass and a tuner out sounds really good for most applications. The way i envision they should be utilized is to only put the pedals you tend to switch off and on during songs in the looper. So for me i tend to leave my comp on all the time and my soul food but i turn on and off modulation effects more. So if i only put the modulation effects in the looper i can activate the master bypass then turn on the mutilpe effects i want for said part and click off the bypass and turn on all selected pedals at once.
 

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Here it is. I still have to fix the Diago daisy chain PS underneath and drill for the DC plugs. The ME 8 PS will probably get moved underneath as well. Main O/D Modded Daphon. Un - modded Daphon to goose it. Nobels for clean boost. Daphon distortion a transient pedal. PW 10 'cause the Fasel is knackered in my Cry Baby. I have 2 or 3 song patches in the ME 8 but mostly just chorus and delay and tuner.
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FWIW here's my current gigging set - up of which the sound never ceases to amaze me. Please don't make me go down the Modelling/Profiling route.......yet!
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Oh and as for Mockbel's orignal question about what board he should get. I'd also suggest a pedaltrain if you aren't comfortable with making a homemade one. Pedaltrain are soild and affordable and if later in life you want a different/bigger board well a used pedaltrain is an easy sale.
Also check out pedaltrains pedalboard builder as a reference to the model you will want. It lets you layout the board with accurate size pics of the real pedals.
 

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Hi guys.. i made some more research.. these two seem to be the best...

Pedaltrain Classic 1

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Gator GPB-BAK-1

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I liked this simpler Gator too but many negative reviews on its quality... it is wood by the way !

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By the way NGG..got any recommendations on the loop strip taking into consideration my pedal board which can be seen above? I'll keep the effects loops pedals out of the looper.
BP

Same here. My looper is only there for my drives and tap.

Yep, Loop-Master is great, just be prepared to WAIT for your order. Like 8 weeks of waiting. I don't think his price can be beat; you'd have to build it yourself to get that quality and value.

If you have the skills to build one, I got my kit from Mammoth. It's a 5 looper kit, but I have it running 4 pedals and the leftover spot is holding the guts from my small tap.
 

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Anyway Mock what was your aversion to the BOSS BCB60?
I used one before I expanded ( my pedals not my waistline) and it was perfect and most certainly not restricted to only BOSS pedals
 

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I was in the same boat as you a few years back. I decided to purchase a piece of wood, some sticky velcro, screw-on rubber feet for the bottom, and go from there. Very inexpensive, easy to put together, and allowed me to play around with size/tier/angle without breaking the bank. I've settled on one specific size, tiered and slightly angled with a power supply hidden under the tier. Took a couple of years to get to what I was happy with, but my investment in all of those different designs was less than $50.

Regarding the channel foot switch... I had it on my board when I was using an amp with both clean and dirty channels. When I started using pedals to get the dirt I moved the channel foot switch to off the board. Now that I use a Twin Reverb (only channel, essentially) I no longer have a channel foot switch.

I say go custom and have fun playing around with it!

Al
 

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I was in the same boat as you a few years back. I decided to purchase a piece of wood, some sticky velcro, screw-on rubber feet for the bottom, and go from there. Very inexpensive, easy to put together, and allowed me to play around with size/tier/angle without breaking the bank. I've settled on one specific size, tiered and slightly angled with a power supply hidden under the tier. Took a couple of years to get to what I was happy with, but my investment in all of those different designs was less than $50.

Regarding the channel foot switch... I had it on my board when I was using an amp with both clean and dirty channels. When I started using pedals to get the dirt I moved the channel foot switch to off the board. Now that I use a Twin Reverb (only channel, essentially) I no longer have a channel foot switch.

I say go custom and have fun playing around with it!

Al


As per the OP ".....I think I am too idiot to build one myself..." LOL
 

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Anyway Mock what was your aversion to the BOSS BCB60?
I used one before I expanded ( my pedals not my waistline) and it was perfect and most certainly not restricted to only BOSS pedals

It is the only one i inspected myself.. it was bulky and i didnt like how pedals are "inside" the pedalboard rather than "on" it.. just didnt like it
 

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Hi all

Currently I just have wah and delay pedals.. most probably I will get another 2 or 3 pedals so I started to think about a pedal board... I am having few questions in my mind that would affect my decision so I thought of sharing those questions with you and get your suggestions...

1. Will I really live with just 3 or 4 pedals so I should get a small pedal board or it always starts like this but ends up with 7 or 8 pedals at minimum so I should get a big pedalboard from m now?
2. Should I consider a space on my pedalboard for the amp foot switch?
3. I don't know how the wah feel on a pedalboard? I like it when it is on ground so I am thinking about keeping it outside the pedalboard...

I just built a small B rig pedal board on a cheap frame I got off Ebay for $25.00 with a bag. It started out as just an EQ, an overdrive and a volume pedal (this on the floor outside the pedal board). It's now up to 5 pedals with a tuner, compressor, EQ, overdrive and volume pedal. It's still smaller than my main board but bigger than I meant to go!

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As to the wah, I'm with you - keep it outside the board on the ground. That also allows you to get a narrower board, and leaves room for other pedals. Personally I try to avoid taking a wah out live as they are REALLY heavy...
 
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