bonanza2252003
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I liked Gregs Rant over at Gibsons Henry J thread and since he got the boot I thought I would try to engage Henry Further on the subject.
Hopefully he will bite ?
Below is a copy of my rant
To be perfectly honest I could care less about Greg .But I do respect his knowledge and expertise. His rantings reguaring the big corporation Squashing the little guys is a very valid arguement that has been playing out in a big way across this counntry for the last 30 years. Its called GREED . It has been the destruction of this nation. Look at the trouble we're in. Now Henry comes crawling to his customers because Gibson is having difficulty making millions for their share holders and wants to ask us how he can help us spend more of our money on Gibsons. Its the Henry's of the world that got us in the mess this country is in . Its called Greed and no social responsibility. I and many like me (Greg ) actually understand this . If it wasn't for corporate greed and banking institutions constantly doing the wrong thing for the the country as a whole. We would still be in pretty good shape. But like all the others , Henry hides behind his freedom to make money and be greedy without any responsibility to the people of this nation. Spewing his right as a capitalist. Greg made a good point . Do you think any of the Gibson workers could afford to buy a Historic. The answer is no .Most of them are on an Epiphone budget . Do a quick google on Gibson workers and see for yourself the discontent that exists.They are treated badly underpaid and generaly tossed around like Garbage.Threatened and basically kept job scared until they have had enough and move on .These tactics always work well for the Henrys of the world because they never have to give raises pay health care or have any loyalty to their employess whatsoever. Why do you think Greg had a hard time getting results with customer service in the first place . When you constantly **** on your workers they are not in a big rush to be model employees. This also explains Gibsons quality control Issues
If you treat your employees fairly and pay a fair living wage they will go out of their way to help you be successful.But that will mean less profit for the corporation and they'll collapse under the weight of foreign imports . Bollocks. No I am not English but I don't want to get banned for using the word B---S--T. So Bollocks will suffice. People are willing to pay for american quality .In fact if you travel a bit you will find that American made products are coveted the world over. Did you know the most sought after car in China is a Buick . Yes Buick .Its a status symbol for the new middle class in China. We can compete with foreign markets and do it with superior products. But we can't do it and still make ungodly amounts of Profits for companys and CEO's. Maybe only pay that CEO 10 million a year instead of 150 million and get some health care for your employees instead. That would be a good start. Walmart are you listening. Ever since Walmarts landmark success every company including Gibson has borrowed from their business plan . And the people of this country have suffered.
Henry has been brought up and brainwashed in this corporate model. I guarantee he has a huge ego that goes along with his mighty position as CEO. I've never known a CEO that didn't. His main concern ,as he already stated ,is to make more money for himself ,his family and shareholders. This is true and it is his job. If he doesn't do it someone else will. Heres where it begins to break down again . Henry is not realy in control of the empire known as Gibson. If he doesn't produce his greedy share holders and others above him may decide to replace him.Yes even Henry has a boss. Henry does not want you to know that .His Ego is way too huge and he likes the Idea that everybody thinks he runs Gibson and can do whatever he wants .Really Henry is just a scared rabbit like all his employees .Afraid . Afraid of losing his power, afraid of failure ,afraid he may have to give up his winter home in ,Costa Rica.
So whats the answer ? I don't know .Can you go tell his share holders that they have to make less money so they can be socially responsible. I would like to tell every corporation and share holder that. The government has tried it in the past .You all know what the companys did then. They moved offshore. So where do we go from here. Morality and responsibility are the jobs of parents . If Corporate leaders ,share holders and CEO's didn't learn it .What can you do?
The whole country is in a mess because of this mindset. Google corporate profits over the last 30 years and see the graphs for yourself . Corporate profits and worker productivity have risen steady since the 70's .The workers profits however do not continue upward with soaring corporate profits. In other words by the 90's and 21'st century companys were making billions more than they ever have in the history of the world. But workers wages barely kept up with inflation . So we borrowed more until our borowing became so saturated that it all colapsed .Did you know that the average american at the end of the 70's had approximately $14000 in debt .Today the average American has $140,000 in debt. This was due to corporations having all the money and not passing a proportianate amount back to their Employees. So the big banks had more and more money but no one who could qualify to borrow it. So then what was the answer. Lets de-regulate the banking industry so we can lend all this money we have to the people so we can make even more money.Never mind paying a little more in wages or health care lets just figure out a way to make even more money . Please Mr. Bush help us out so we can lend all these billions we're making to the people who can't afford it and make more money . Well ok says George that sounds like a great idea . Lets go kick Sadams ass while we're at it.(can I say Ass) Oh well.
Well I'm already way off subject so I won't start in on Iraq and our poor (literaly in both sences of the word) young men being killed overseas only to come back to no health care and a meager existance . They deserve better.
Don't worry though Henry .We'll do our best to spend some more of our hard earned cash at your factory .Because I know you realy care about us.
Disclaimer: I do not know Greg. I am not poor or bitter. I am semi-retired at 48 .and have a modest piece of the pie. I try to share my pie with others less fortuante than myself and do so. I've dealt with the Henry's of the world all my life and do enjoy watching them sqirm when their companys start going down the toilet. And I try to stay optomistic about the human race . I am however a realist and am wondering when the Henry's of the world will figure out that their corporate model is not working and is not sustainable .The current socioeconomic capitalist greed structure that exists today is not susstainable in the long run. That is just a fact. So I have very little sympathy for Henry in his efforts to prop up Gibsons sagging profitability.
Tell me Henry what are you doing for your country ? For your soldiers? your workers ? The human race in General ? Maybe you can lead the way to a new tomorrow . That just might impress me.
OH well see you in Cancun this winter .
Hopefully he will bite ?
Below is a copy of my rant
To be perfectly honest I could care less about Greg .But I do respect his knowledge and expertise. His rantings reguaring the big corporation Squashing the little guys is a very valid arguement that has been playing out in a big way across this counntry for the last 30 years. Its called GREED . It has been the destruction of this nation. Look at the trouble we're in. Now Henry comes crawling to his customers because Gibson is having difficulty making millions for their share holders and wants to ask us how he can help us spend more of our money on Gibsons. Its the Henry's of the world that got us in the mess this country is in . Its called Greed and no social responsibility. I and many like me (Greg ) actually understand this . If it wasn't for corporate greed and banking institutions constantly doing the wrong thing for the the country as a whole. We would still be in pretty good shape. But like all the others , Henry hides behind his freedom to make money and be greedy without any responsibility to the people of this nation. Spewing his right as a capitalist. Greg made a good point . Do you think any of the Gibson workers could afford to buy a Historic. The answer is no .Most of them are on an Epiphone budget . Do a quick google on Gibson workers and see for yourself the discontent that exists.They are treated badly underpaid and generaly tossed around like Garbage.Threatened and basically kept job scared until they have had enough and move on .These tactics always work well for the Henrys of the world because they never have to give raises pay health care or have any loyalty to their employess whatsoever. Why do you think Greg had a hard time getting results with customer service in the first place . When you constantly **** on your workers they are not in a big rush to be model employees. This also explains Gibsons quality control Issues
If you treat your employees fairly and pay a fair living wage they will go out of their way to help you be successful.But that will mean less profit for the corporation and they'll collapse under the weight of foreign imports . Bollocks. No I am not English but I don't want to get banned for using the word B---S--T. So Bollocks will suffice. People are willing to pay for american quality .In fact if you travel a bit you will find that American made products are coveted the world over. Did you know the most sought after car in China is a Buick . Yes Buick .Its a status symbol for the new middle class in China. We can compete with foreign markets and do it with superior products. But we can't do it and still make ungodly amounts of Profits for companys and CEO's. Maybe only pay that CEO 10 million a year instead of 150 million and get some health care for your employees instead. That would be a good start. Walmart are you listening. Ever since Walmarts landmark success every company including Gibson has borrowed from their business plan . And the people of this country have suffered.
Henry has been brought up and brainwashed in this corporate model. I guarantee he has a huge ego that goes along with his mighty position as CEO. I've never known a CEO that didn't. His main concern ,as he already stated ,is to make more money for himself ,his family and shareholders. This is true and it is his job. If he doesn't do it someone else will. Heres where it begins to break down again . Henry is not realy in control of the empire known as Gibson. If he doesn't produce his greedy share holders and others above him may decide to replace him.Yes even Henry has a boss. Henry does not want you to know that .His Ego is way too huge and he likes the Idea that everybody thinks he runs Gibson and can do whatever he wants .Really Henry is just a scared rabbit like all his employees .Afraid . Afraid of losing his power, afraid of failure ,afraid he may have to give up his winter home in ,Costa Rica.
So whats the answer ? I don't know .Can you go tell his share holders that they have to make less money so they can be socially responsible. I would like to tell every corporation and share holder that. The government has tried it in the past .You all know what the companys did then. They moved offshore. So where do we go from here. Morality and responsibility are the jobs of parents . If Corporate leaders ,share holders and CEO's didn't learn it .What can you do?
The whole country is in a mess because of this mindset. Google corporate profits over the last 30 years and see the graphs for yourself . Corporate profits and worker productivity have risen steady since the 70's .The workers profits however do not continue upward with soaring corporate profits. In other words by the 90's and 21'st century companys were making billions more than they ever have in the history of the world. But workers wages barely kept up with inflation . So we borrowed more until our borowing became so saturated that it all colapsed .Did you know that the average american at the end of the 70's had approximately $14000 in debt .Today the average American has $140,000 in debt. This was due to corporations having all the money and not passing a proportianate amount back to their Employees. So the big banks had more and more money but no one who could qualify to borrow it. So then what was the answer. Lets de-regulate the banking industry so we can lend all this money we have to the people so we can make even more money.Never mind paying a little more in wages or health care lets just figure out a way to make even more money . Please Mr. Bush help us out so we can lend all these billions we're making to the people who can't afford it and make more money . Well ok says George that sounds like a great idea . Lets go kick Sadams ass while we're at it.(can I say Ass) Oh well.
Well I'm already way off subject so I won't start in on Iraq and our poor (literaly in both sences of the word) young men being killed overseas only to come back to no health care and a meager existance . They deserve better.
Don't worry though Henry .We'll do our best to spend some more of our hard earned cash at your factory .Because I know you realy care about us.
Disclaimer: I do not know Greg. I am not poor or bitter. I am semi-retired at 48 .and have a modest piece of the pie. I try to share my pie with others less fortuante than myself and do so. I've dealt with the Henry's of the world all my life and do enjoy watching them sqirm when their companys start going down the toilet. And I try to stay optomistic about the human race . I am however a realist and am wondering when the Henry's of the world will figure out that their corporate model is not working and is not sustainable .The current socioeconomic capitalist greed structure that exists today is not susstainable in the long run. That is just a fact. So I have very little sympathy for Henry in his efforts to prop up Gibsons sagging profitability.
Tell me Henry what are you doing for your country ? For your soldiers? your workers ? The human race in General ? Maybe you can lead the way to a new tomorrow . That just might impress me.
OH well see you in Cancun this winter .
