Help with parts upgrade for Dillion LPJ

WannaLesPaul

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This weekend I think I will finally get to go see this Dillion that I posted about before.

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Assuming I dont find any major problems, and also that I can handle the fat neck... I will surely take it home.

So first off it needs a P90! I dunno wtf that thing is... looks like a P90 sized humbucker? :rolleyes: I'll be stuck with that for the rest of my life lol

And before you recommend all the "usual" choices, please bear in mind that I'm in Bangkok - no chance to get those at a decent price like you guys can. I'm considering an Artec ASA91. I've got Artec A5 vintage single coils in my Strat and they're damn fine sounding pups, so I'm not scared of their brand at all lol

Here's the basic spec: Artec ASA91 dogear P90 BRIDGE
brass baseplate and wax potted
Magnets: Alnico V
Bridge RWRP
Bridge Pickup: 9.4K
Bridge Pole Spacing:52mm

Question is... do y'all think this pickup is too hot? I would think that the overdriven tone is 'beastly" lol (as it should be), but I would like a nice clean acoustic-like tone as well. I'll probably be using Bourns a550k pots and a .022uf orange drop cap.

Next up is that bridge. I may not change it right away and I'm sure it works fine, but I just dont like it. I would like a basic wraptail like this https://www.philadelphialuthiertools.com/bridge-and-tailpieces/tailpieces-and-wraparound-tailpieces/wraparound-lightwieight-aluminum-guitar-bridge-bridge-only/

The question here is the tone. Most say the aluminum sounds more clear and airy if you will, but maybe some of the snarling nastiness is lost. So if thats the case, it may be best to just use the zinc type? Or maybe its all just a bunch of BS? lol

I would appreciate your input regarding those two issues, as I'm pretty excited about this guitar. Been looking for a couple years. These are VERY hard to find over here.

I will do the P90 and harness right away and play it awhile before deciding about the bridge. Maybe down the road new tuners. Oh and for sure a 1 ply tortoise pickguard :D
 

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Def want the P-90 in there. Lose that other "thing", whatever it is (although it might be of value to someone if it's a name brand). As for the bridge, mine came stock with something more similar to this Wilkinson . What's on there looks like an old-school Badass (brand) bridge which is likely functional but bulky and awkward looking. Never have had to bother with changing tuners. Original pots were cheap minis.
 

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Try a Tonerider. They are also fairly cheap, with good shipping to Asian countries
 

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Def want the P-90 in there. Lose that other "thing", whatever it is (although it might be of value to someone if it's a name brand). As for the bridge, mine came stock with something more similar to this Wilkinson . What's on there looks like an old-school Badass (brand) bridge which is likely functional but bulky and awkward looking. Never have had to bother with changing tuners. Original pots were cheap minis.
Hmmm I thought this bridge was the same stock one as yours :facepalm: your eyes are way better than mine lol

Do you have these same tuners? And speaking of tuners... why cant Koreans ever put them on straight!?

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Try a Tonerider. They are also fairly cheap, with good shipping to Asian countries
Thanks, yeah I've checked Toneriders of course. Not bad, but they still cost more than double the Artec and I reckon they are probably nearly equal in quality.
 

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The tuners that were on my Dillion worked perfectly well. So did the bridge so wait until after you get it to decide if they need replaced.

As for wraptail bridges it looks to me like your TP studs are parallel to the pickup. In that case you should use one with a lightening bar on it for intonation help. You should only use the non lightening bar ones for offset TP studs.
 

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I doubt it.
I've tried Artec, and I've tried Tonerider, the latter were definitely better IMHO
I said "nearly" equal :D I've only tried Tonerider strat pups in music stores, never owned them. Played CV 50s and 60s strats and for sure they sound good. I just dont hear a world of difference between those and the Artecs in my strat. Maybe my ears are shot I dunno lol
 

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I like the wraptail bridge - gotta have that on a Junior. Like Roxie said, you'll need a lightning bar bridge. As for the pickup, I would try to find one with an alnico2 magnet and somewhere in the 8K range.
 

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The tuners that were on my Dillion worked perfectly well. So did the bridge so wait until after you get it to decide if they need replaced.

As for wraptail bridges it looks to me like your TP studs are parallel to the pickup. In that case you should use one with a lightening bar on it for intonation help. You should only use the non lightening bar ones for offset TP studs.
Thanks. I assumed that the tuners and bridge were probably fine... it was all just about the looks :D

And as for your bridge explanation, I've been wondering why some were extremely slanted while others looked straight. Thanks for enlightening me. Makes sense!
 

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I like the wraptail bridge - gotta have that on a Junior. Like Roxie said, you'll need a lightning bar bridge. As for the pickup, I would try to find one with an alnico2 magnet and somewhere in the 8K range.
Yes now I know that the lightning style is needed thanks to you guys. Pity though... I really dig that old school plain one. Do you use aluminum, or the standard zinc or whatever it is material?

I tend to agree that the pickup should be around 8k. Actually, the site I was quoting may have the spec wrong, as I've now come across two others that claim it to be around 7.6 - 7.8k. So maybe they are fine after all.

But I do have to ask why do you suggest A2 magnets?
 

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What about these?

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Supposedly made in USA by Gibson. Have read that they (are/were?) installed in Elite models and in the John Lennon Casino.

Spec is almost same as Gibson P90:
Magnet: Alnico-V
D.C. Resistance: 8.1K ohm
Induction @ 1KHz: 6.45H
 


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