help about the authenticity of a les paul

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Hello to all the members of this forum
please help me out cause i'm going to buy a les paul and i'm afraid it's not a true piece of les paul.
i have some pictures of the les paul.
the possesser asked for 2000 euros for this les paul and said it's a deluxe 1979
do you think it's worth the price
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Hello to all the members of this forum
please help me out cause i'm going to buy a les paul and i'm afraid it's not a true piece of les paul.
i have some pictures of the les paul.
the possesser asked for 2000 euros for this les paul and said it's a deluxe 1979
do you think it's worth the price
It would be good to have photos of the back of the neck/headstock too. There is a Norlin area on this website where the real experts will be.

The pickguard is wrong, and the rear pickup has I presume been changed which means it will never be a true "collector's item", but otherwise looks OK at first sight to me. As to value, I don't know. Can you get a better guitar for 2,000 Euros??
 

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here are some complementary pictures
i really wanna get this gibson but i'm not sure if it's a good and anthentic one

Thank you very much for your help in advance
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It would be good to have photos of the back of the neck/headstock too. There is a Norlin area on this website where the real experts will be.

The pickguard is wrong, and the rear pickup has I presume been changed which means it will never be a true "collector's item", but otherwise looks OK at first sight to me. As to value, I don't know. Can you get a better guitar for 2,000 Euros??
thank you for your answer i've just posted another pictures of the back.
yes it looks like pickups have been changed
thank you very much for your help
 

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Looks like a real (modified) Gibson to me. Perhaps the top is refinished - I don't know?

If you like the sound ...
 

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I don't think I will ever learn to love those cases though :(
 

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"If a guitar makes you want to take it out of the box and play it, it's a good guitar."

That's how I think - a collector/investor thinks differently.
 

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"If a guitar makes you want to take it out of the box and play it, it's a good guitar."

That's how I think - a collector/investor thinks differently.
i'm not a collector/ investor i'm a les paul fan and i love them but all these modifications on the guitar are makin me hesitate about it, i'd see my self more with a standard of the nineties on this budget
 

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thank you screaming head64 i totally agree with you ! thanks for your help ! i will get a classic or a standard in mint conditions from the nineties or 2000's i've tried them before and they are really worth the price
 

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something else i'm worried about is that while trying the guitar i get a lot of buzz on the first cord and for some bands i was worried about the neck has been broken before that's why i've posted the pictures maybe you could help ! sure the pictures will not give any idea about the history of the guitar but anyways ... i'm not so excited now that you told that pickups and modified are not stock
 
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something else i'm worried about is that while trying the guitar i get a lot of buzz on the first cord and for some bands i was worried about the neck has been broken before that's why i've posted the pictures maybe you could help ! sure the pictures will not give any idea about the history of the guitar but anyways ... i'm not so excited now that you told that pickups and modified are not stock
Buzzing could be caused from many things and an easy fix or it could take a lot of money to repair so it is playable with zero buzz or fretting out. Again, this is just my opinion, but this is not worth the asking price in that condition. There are thousands of Les Pauls out there for sale, I'd keep looking or buy a BRAND NEW Les Paul. :)
 

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thank you guys ! your comments are very appreciated
 

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Buzzing could be caused from many things and an easy fix or it could take a lot of money to repair so it is playable with zero buzz or fretting out. Again, this is just my opinion, but this is not worth the asking price in that condition. There are thousands of Les Pauls out there for sale, I'd keep looking or buy a BRAND NEW Les Paul. :)
all i need to do now is " focus and find the right one" :)
 

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I would not pay 2k Euros for that. It's a shell of what it should be. I don't doubt that it's real, though. Nobody would fake a beat up and heavily modified LP that is worth less than it would be if it were original.

If you can get the price down, you can gut it and restore it.
 

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Buzzing could be caused from many things and an easy fix or it could take a lot of money to repair so it is playable with zero buzz or fretting out. Again, this is just my opinion, but this is not worth the asking price in that condition. There are thousands of Les Pauls out there for sale, I'd keep looking or buy a BRAND NEW Les Paul. :)
Those frets do look very worn, I wouldn't be surprised if that was a problem. Prices of mid-1990s Classics have really gone up, but you might still find one for <2,000 and they can be very good if you like thinner necks. Or nearly-new.
 

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