Hardest Pickup I wind 21k + wind

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I have been doing a couple of these this week. As most of you know I specialize in very high DC pickups or more modern winds. :wave:These to me are far more difficult to do for me than a vintage or vintage wind. Now keep in mind I am not talking about replicas when I say this. Just the wind itself. For anyone who does not think so try getting 11 thousand turns on 1 bobbin with out destroying the integrity of the bobbin or having it unspool on you because it is bigger than the bobbin. Yep that is right bigger than the bobbin. So here are some picks. By the way this is Nitrous's pup and it will read almost 22k with an A8.


first to give perspective. This is a 3.86k coil with 4700 turns at a TPL of roughly 68 give or take.
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Now here we have screw side of 9830 turns on one bobbin TPL is raised just a bit right at or around 82 with a slight scatter to 62 in the middle. You will notice the coil size. You will also between this coil and the next this coils tension is lower.
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The reason for this is placement of the coil in conjunction to the wind.
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Because I use 43 for this and how tight the second coil is and the fact it has 10,292 turns on it at 76 TPL you have to adjust the tension on the screw coil to keep it from sounding "sterile" or lack in the lows. Remember this is getting a A8 in it which will ad drive to it but will also add to much bite if the coils are not exact. That is why I do it like this.

Surprisingly enough this pickup audibly has the same output as a low DC pickup. I have found that in terms of my ears that after say 8.4k things start to get brown sounding. This is absolutely hands down my favorite pickup for strat and Tele type guitars because of how fat they sound and the for Strats a 10.6k tap slug side for a fat strat tone and on a Tele screw side for a 9.7k tap for some great twang.

Anyway I just thought I would share this beast with you all, and I have no fear of anyone reproducing it. I have tried on 3 other machines and you get real screwed at around 9000 turns. So any questions go for it. I will answer all that I can.
 

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You know I am starting to think I am getting there. They are freaking a pain in the ass to do because of the stacking of the coil 1 out 4 coils end up getting cut. That is a lot of wire but a great tax deduction.
 

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Nice work Rayne! Keep up the good work.
 

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You to Bill. I love your covers. One day you gonna have to let m,e in on you get tem so clean.
 

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You to Bill. I love your covers. One day you gonna have to let m,e in on you get tem so clean.

Easy, Harbor freight bench grinder with a buffing wheel and blue marvel paste.
 

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Wow cool thanks. I love the mat finish on them. Stellar looking.
 

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Warning: do not play Rayne's 21k+ pickups near any flamable or combustible substance


them are hot stuff mang
 

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The hardest wind to wind... :naughty:




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I'll need a BC Rich to try these!!!

Well done! Not all of us "just" want PAF replicas!
 

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I have been doing a couple of these this week. As most of you know I specialize in very high DC pickups or more modern winds. :wave:These to me are far more difficult to do for me than a vintage or vintage wind. Now keep in mind I am not talking about replicas when I say this. Just the wind itself. For anyone who does not think so try getting 11 thousand turns on 1 bobbin with out destroying the integrity of the bobbin or having it unspool on you because it is bigger than the bobbin. Yep that is right bigger than the bobbin. So here are some picks. By the way this is Nitrous's pup and it will read almost 22k with an A8.


first to give perspective. This is a 3.86k coil with 4700 turns at a TPL of roughly 68 give or take.
IMG_1324.jpg


Now here we have screw side of 9830 turns on one bobbin TPL is raised just a bit right at or around 82 with a slight scatter to 62 in the middle. You will notice the coil size. You will also between this coil and the next this coils tension is lower.
IMG_1322.jpg

The reason for this is placement of the coil in conjunction to the wind.
IMG_1323.jpg

Because I use 43 for this and how tight the second coil is and the fact it has 10,292 turns on it at 76 TPL you have to adjust the tension on the screw coil to keep it from sounding "sterile" or lack in the lows. Remember this is getting a A8 in it which will ad drive to it but will also add to much bite if the coils are not exact. That is why I do it like this.

Surprisingly enough this pickup audibly has the same output as a low DC pickup. I have found that in terms of my ears that after say 8.4k things start to get brown sounding. This is absolutely hands down my favorite pickup for strat and Tele type guitars because of how fat they sound and the for Strats a 10.6k tap slug side for a fat strat tone and on a Tele screw side for a 9.7k tap for some great twang.

Anyway I just thought I would share this beast with you all, and I have no fear of anyone reproducing it. I have tried on 3 other machines and you get real screwed at around 9000 turns. So any questions go for it. I will answer all that I can.


Really nice!!!!

Whnat to ask if you noticed any reduction in noise with this kind of wind?
 

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Update here is a shot of the pup prior to Wax potting. Notice how the wire is tucked. A lot of pups run them down the middle obviously there is no room for this so I tuck all my wiring this way.

In this shot you can see the size of the coil to the edges of the late. This is a big ****er to say the least
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Wire tucking 101 here
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And a full frontal shot of he double Ds
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Okay now for the readings. At wind temperature she read in at 22.6k. After the coils cooled a little and she was assembled and room temp sat in she read 21.5 at 74 degrees. At stage temp for moderate lighting at around 105 degrees she will be at 21.9k. Hope you all en joyed this. I may do one on a lower wind later in the week. By the way this is not the hottest I have done. With 44 wire I did 34.8 and with the 43 I have done 24.6k. Thank you all for watching.

And to Nico no, as with any wind I do the noise just is not there even in tap mode as it draws a bit from the other coil.
 

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Gotta get me some of them hot ones from you.. One day, one day.. Thanks for sharing!
 

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Craftsmanship. Looks like this. :cool:

I'd love to hear that lil beasty. :D
 

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What is the most you can do with 42awg? How many winds per bobbin?
 

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