Gibson website hacked!?

[colchar]

A hacker that knows about nibs?

I'm pretty sure a few people here could probably hack the site if they really tried.

 

[rich85]

I found a picture of Henry after the changes went up

 

[garweft]

I found a picture of Henry after the changes went up

He's getting everybody back for laughing at his Firebird X and jean jacket.

 

[Ozzy Mandeus]

It won't?

Well, I couldn't get a washer over the buttons on my tanglewood and they were about that size. On the other hand, they were so huge the strap didn't fall off anyway!

 

[101ABN327]

....and all this time I thought it had something to do with having one's head up one's own ass?

Nope... You now stand corrected.

; )

101

 

[boyscout]

So my 2012 with an 2 piece board has un-enhanced sustain? WTF?

Some Gibson junior marketing writer who probably spends more time reading stupid online forum posts than playing guitars has really sh*t in the nest with that one.

Seems incredible that it got past his/her bosses, but maybe they too are now junior b-school types who studied Tylenol and think they'll pull off a sales boost by acknowledging a "problem" with 2012 guitars.

But... there isn't a problem, and Gibson already got its boost in 2013. So what does Gibson - and especially its customers owing 2012 guitars - gain from dropping the same silly turd found in some of the dumbest and most-unproven arguments on the internet? Duhhh!

Full disclosure: I own a Sandy with two-layer board which has proven to be (a) a phenomenal guitar, (b) immune to price depression caused by silly speculation about guitars with two-layer boards and (c) is not for sale and probably never will be. So I'm not grinding an axe for profit.

If this is Henry's work, then he's even wackier than they say. The creators of the 2014 announcements seem not to know much about LP players and collectors. Maybe they're new b-school efficiency types brought fresh through Gibson's spinning middle-manager door to cope with the explosive growth of 2013. Les Pauls today, toasters tomorrow.

And they may be selling toasters tomorrow since with these announcements 2014s may not sell as briskly as 2013s did. Whittling at product quality, important and desirable traditions, and customer loyalty all at the same time doesn't seem like a growth formula to me.

 

[The Wedge]

If this is Henry's work, then he's even wackier than they say. The creators of the 2014 announcements seem not to know much about LP players and collectors. Maybe they're new b-school efficiency types brought fresh through Gibson's spinning middle-manager door to cope with the explosive growth of 2013. Les Pauls today, toasters tomorrow.

And they may be selling toasters tomorrow since with these announcements 2014s may not sell as briskly as 2013s did. Whittling at product quality, important and desirable traditions, and customer loyalty all at the same time doesn't seem like a growth formula to me.

It's cost cutting. It takes many man hours a year to do just the nibs. Get rid of that step and you're saving millions. And they probably didn't have to retool anything because the frets aren't even long enough to reach the end of the board!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF.

 

[dangerdog]

Let me congratulate you in advance - 2014 will be a great year for your business!

The one thing Gibsons have had over most of the Japanese Les Paul clones, at least from a cork sniffer perspective, is the fret edge binding.

Now there really is no reason to buy a Gibson in the $1500 -$2400 price range when you can get a pretty obviously superior guitar for half that from Japan. Well besides the "gotta have the name" reason.


Not to mention how this is going to make it much harder for many people to spot real counterfeits. I imagine we will be hearing much more of the:

"the ONLY way to know you are buying a real Gibson is to get it from an authoried dealer!"

line.

That line is especially hilarious to me as I had a Gibson rep tell me that one reason counterfeits had gotten so serious to them was BECAUSE there were some authorized dealers selling them.

 

[woolenmammoth]

It's cost cutting. It takes many man hours a year to do just the nibs. Get rid of that step and you're saving millions. And they probably didn't have to retool anything because the frets aren't even long enough to reach the end of the board!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF.

Its kinda silly to suggest there is a labor cost in the millions for one step on a production line. Saving money? Of course. Millions? Nowhere close.

 

[LPSPP]

Definition of "cork sniffer", please...

Cork Sniffer

A derogatory term used to describe a person that tends to overanalyze physical properties that may not even be relevant.

These people seem to split hairs on details and are usually just percieved as windbags who just like to hear themselves speak.

The implied insult of the word, is that the corksniffer, is a lab worker that microanalyzes everything to the extreme, but fails to see the big picture.

The term probably originated in the wine industry or the wine conneisour pastime to describe people that innaccurately believe they can tell the quality of a wine by sniffing the cork.

This term is very commonly used in the discussion pages of popular online forums dealing with guitars, in which the cork sniffers are the ones that argue and debate over the subtleties of various factors that contribute to tone, such as wood types used, guitar picup types, body shapes, finishing methods, manufacturing proccess etc.
The term is generally used to imply that these very people don't really have any experience with the actual playing of the instruments, but they are simply analyzing or evaluating tone based on theory or science, instead of just listening.

The corksniffers completely miss the point.

"Hey, can you belive that guy?

Trying to say that adding cat hair to the varnish of a guitar will brighten the sound of it's tone."

"Aw, don't listen to that cork sniffer."

 

[dspelman]

Gotta give the cork sniffers something new to sniff at...

And apparently it's a heaping helping of horseSh!...
Otherwise known as Gibson Marketing Copy.

Sniffable in extremis.

 

[KenG]

So my 2012 with an 2 piece board has un-enhanced sustain? WTF?

Last year they said the 2 piece laminated fretboard was sonically indistinguishable from the 1 piece, now they are saying the 1 piece has improved sustain. Pretty short memories or simply catering to the people who freaked about in 2012.

 

[KenG]

Cork Sniffer

A derogatory term used to describe a person that tends to overanalyze physical properties that may not even be relevant.

These people seem to split hairs on details and are usually just percieved as windbags who just like to hear themselves speak.

The implied insult of the word, is that the corksniffer, is a lab worker that microanalyzes everything to the extreme, but fails to see the big picture.

The term probably originated in the wine industry or the wine conneisour pastime to describe people that innaccurately believe they can tell the quality of a wine by sniffing the cork.

This term is very commonly used in the discussion pages of popular online forums dealing with guitars, in which the cork sniffers are the ones that argue and debate over the subtleties of various factors that contribute to tone, such as wood types used, guitar picup types, body shapes, finishing methods, manufacturing proccess etc.
The term is generally used to imply that these very people don't really have any experience with the actual playing of the instruments, but they are simply analyzing or evaluating tone based on theory or science, instead of just listening.

The corksniffers completely miss the point.

"Hey, can you belive that guy?

Trying to say that adding cat hair to the varnish of a guitar will brighten the sound of it's tone."

"Aw, don't listen to that cork sniffer."

It has also been thrown at people at times by people who are defensive about having less expensive equipment.

Some Epi folks call Gibson USA folks cork sniffers for preferring Gibson USA, Gibson USA folk call CS Gibson folk cork sniffers for preferring CS Gibsons.
In other words the insult usually moves in the same direction.

 

[JM2112]

And apparently it's a heaping helping of horseSh!...
Otherwise known as Gibson Marketing Copy.

Sniffable in extremis.

And suddenly baked maple and richlite are not an issue anymore...

 

[dspelman]

And suddenly baked maple and richlite are not an issue anymore...

You noticed <G>.
I really didn't have an issue with them anyway, since it was unlikely that they'd appear on any guitar I'd be interested in...

 

[JM2112]

You noticed <G>.
I really didn't have an issue with them anyway, since it was unlikely that they'd appear on any guitar I'd be interested in...

Got guitars with ebony, rosewood, torrefied maple, and richlite. They all play and sound great. I understand folks have a preference for certain things, and that's fine. It's when someone starts whining that one is inferior to the other.

 

[DADGAD]

I'm waiting for a Masonite fretboard for huge sustain.

 

[Latearrival]

I like the idea of knobs you can actually turn, without using your whole hand!....


Bad move with the "nibs" though....what next, remove the binding?

 

[Stylemaster]

I'm waiting for a Masonite fretboard for huge sustain.

Almost spit my coffee from this one. Very funny!

 

[RangerJay]

People who buy 2014 models will get such great guitars that it will turn out like this:

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