Gibson or another Epiphone?

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I have a couple of lovely Epi's ('59 and Special TV Yellow) and both were perfect. This week I got my Gibson 50's Standard and it is flawless as far as I can see - and I have spent most of the week cuddling and looking at it (as well as playing it!) so I would have spotted any imperfections.

I am with @Bobby Mahogany - Life is short. Buy a Gibson.

I am one of those who picked up the guitar again during the "wretched" and originally bought the Epi's thinking if I get good enough I'll get a Gibson. Then I admitted to myself I'll soon be 60 and..... Life is short. Buy a Gibson!

So I did.

No regrets - even though the Epi '59 delivers maybe 80%+ and is stunningly good for the price.

As a wise man once said:

"A Gibson is a Gibson is a Gibson.
That is all."
 

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If I were given the option of a super high end Epiphone or the lowest end Gibson, I'd pick the Gibson every time. An Epiphone will never get that awesome tone that a Gibson gets.
 

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It’s like the whole LP vs Strat. So many haters on both side. Hell, everyone should have at least one of each. I do. They are both great for very different reasons and sounds. But let’s not go there.

I’m thinking a Heritage Cherry Sunburst, always loved that color.
And I agree, life is to short to not get what you want providing you can.
 

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I have a bunch of both, plus a tokai sprinkled in. they're all unique. I'd say try as many as you can and let the guitar pick you.
 

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I started with a Squire Contemporary then the Epi. Next was a Fender Am Pro II as a big brother to the Squire. This brings me to the idea of the Gibson.

I had a Gibson Studio 18 years back in my little home studio but life got in the way. Sold it all.
Now at 58 and looking into retirement years, I’m re buying it all again. Basement studio is rebuilt all but for that one Gibson.
 

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I've had Epiphones, but I think their gold lays in their own original models instead of Gibson replicas (Sheraton, Casino, Coronet, etc). If it's within you reach, you should go for the original instead of the replica.

The main reason I love my Gibsons is their sound.
If I was going for flawless top notch QC, I'd go for a PRS or a Navigator.
But they don't sound like Gibson. Neither do Epiphones.

Sorry for digressing a bit.
You could also check the used market for Gibsons with similar specs to the 50s Standard (Maybe a Traditional with chunky neck and no weight relief?).

I guess what I'm trying to say is go for the Gibson :cool2:
 

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Buy as many different kinds, makes and types as makes you happy. I have 10 different pickup types in 16 guitars. Some guitars were cheap, some not so much, about half are used. Even a few of the new ones were cheap.
 

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The quality issue with Epiphone is greater than with Gibson; it just takes a different but more basic form: poorer-quality woods, relatively deficient electronics and hardware, and, usually veneered, fake flametops. They're perfectly decent guitars, usually, and the robots really make a clean product, and if I were stuck with a decvent one for life, I'd be fine. But if I'm not looking for the cheapest decent guitar, I'm not going with Epiphone. (And the mediocre or bad ones, which are many, are just duds.) Current Gibson producrtion is excellent, with the exception of nibbing and binding necks, features which still work well functionally but are no longer done with the skill seen in the past. Gibsons still entail more handwork and visibly hand-executed features than most other guitars, so if you want the perfection of robotic production, it's best to go with
Fender or some other brand designed for industrial machine building. They're very clean.
 

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The fact that you are even mentioning this quandary infers that you "want" the Gibson. So, get what you want. If not, you will just be "settling" for what you really do not want, you will likely like it for a bit, and then decide to upgrade it later down the line. If you get the Gibson, then you will have the guitar that you want now. It is worth it. That is why most everyone here is saying to get the Gibson.
 

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So I have a bit of cash coming and I would love to get one of the newer Les Paul Standard 50’s to go with my Epiphone LP Tribute Plus.
The thing holding me back is there still seems to be a lot of quality issues, at least what I’m reading here.
Is it a lot of nit picking or is there really still a ton of bad product coming out of Gibson.
I really love my Epiphone, plays great, no issues with quality, should I be safe and get another one of those instead? It’s one third the price of a Gibson and I think it’s a great guitar. But I would really love that 50’s Standard.

How do you all see the quality level these days?

I don't think I'd buy a guitar at that price point sight unseen from any manufacturer. I've done it in the past at even higher price points and from companies with better reputations for quality than Gibson, and been disappointed.

Only problem with that is that stores don't always have what you've got your eye on. I think your best bet is to go to the store with an open mind. What I mean is, when I bought my Classic I really had no idea how Gibson structured their product lines or specs. I just played a bunch of Gibsons and picked the one I liked the most. It happened to be the Classic, but I didn't go in with a particular model in mind. I think that might've limited my options and perhaps resulted in settling for a guitar with some flaws.

Some stores will also order you something which you can then refuse if it's no good so that's another option.
 

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If you’re able to try before buying or have a good return policy, you can try out some Gibsons and if you find one that you like without any glaring QC issues you can bring it home. I’d do that if your heart is set on a Gibson. I’m sure there are good examples out there if you’re willing to look around and play a few.

Also, I’m very happy with my standard 60’s.
 

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I would never buy sight unseen for anything at that price for sure. I have a B&M store with a great return policy. No worries there. I just wanted to see what you people are seeing while my area is still on shutdown. For sure once in store shopping resumes I will head straight to Long & McQuade to try some out.

and actually I am on the fence about the 50’s or the 60’s, but I think my feet are pointing towards the 50’s model, A bit more mellow tone I think.
Plus the color I want.
 
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From Epiphone I’ve had a 2016 LP Custom Pro, 2018 LP Standard, 2019 ES-339, and a 2020 LP Modern, and a 2020 ES-335 Figured. The two earlier LPs never really did much for me and the ES-339 had some terrible quality issues (like dried drips of the poly finish along the neck near the headstock, so it was returned). Both of the 2020 Epis from the “inspired by Gibson” line are incredible guitars. Fit and finish was perfect and they both played great. I still have the ES-335, but sold the LP modern when I was gifted a Gibson 50s Standard.

The Gibson 50s Standard is wonderful, but does have a little area near the high E string by the 12th fret where it looks like the Nitro either flaked off the binding or wasn’t applied perfectly straight. It’s never visible while playing and I can’t feel it. So it’s really not a bother at all, and it kind of reminds me that a human in an American factory helped build this guitar, which I kind of like. While I find everything about the Gibson to be superior to the Epiphones I’ve had, the new Epiphone “inspired by Gibson” line is also very, very good.
 

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If I were given the option of a super high end Epiphone or the lowest end Gibson, I'd pick the Gibson every time. An Epiphone will never get that awesome tone that a Gibson gets.
And why might that be...
Cheers
 

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And why might that be...
Cheers
Differing materials I'd guess. I secretly suspect they purposely make them different. They both use "mahogany" but mahogany can vary greatly depending on where it's sourced from. Theres a reason they don't list the TYPE of mahogany on spec sheets. Ask Gibson where their mahogany is sourced and you'll get ignored. (I guess that's not fair though because they ignore pretty much every inquiry unless it's about serial numbers)
 

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So I have a bit of cash coming and I would love to get one of the newer Les Paul Standard 50’s to go with my Epiphone LP Tribute Plus.
The thing holding me back is there still seems to be a lot of quality issues, at least what I’m reading here.
Is it a lot of nit picking or is there really still a ton of bad product coming out of Gibson.
I really love my Epiphone, plays great, no issues with quality, should I be safe and get another one of those instead? It’s one third the price of a Gibson and I think it’s a great guitar. But I would really love that 50’s Standard.

How do you all see the quality level these days?
Hello,
my search for a les Paul was long.finally i found a Tokai ls-150 !
dont know of you can get them where you live but the quality is outstanding!
specs like customshop les Paul price like a original standard les Paul

 

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For sure…it will be Gibson. If not I would go PRS. But I just really like a Gibson LP.

I miss the Studio model I had years ago and really want to replace it, as much as I find my Epiphone Tribute Plus a pretty close second. That really is a fine guitar for the price. Hell, everything but the wood is actual Gibson USA parts anyway.
But still….the Gibson brand is calling my name!
 

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get a tribute. fantastic bang for buck, and it has gibson on the headstock.
 

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Furthermore, if the Studio was not that “ultra modern weight relief” type, I would probably buy that. I feel that effects the sustain though.
My Gibson will be a nice solid chunk of wood even if it’s 11 pounds!
 

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